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1. 01:50 AM - Re: Commander-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/20/11 (Philip Guziec)
2. 05:25 AM - Re: GO-435 troubles... (Chris)
3. 09:10 AM - Re: GO-435 troubles... (kitepilot@kitepilot.com)
4. 10:37 AM - Re: Commander-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/20/11 (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/20/11 |
Try pinging the twin bonanza yahoo group at twinbonanza@yahoo.com.- The s
traight and B model tbones were 435 powered.- You can also try beechlist.
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=0A>=0A>=0A>Time: 01:45:54 PM PST US=0A>Subject: Commander-List: TCFG Fly-I
n=0A>From: yourtcfg@aol.com=0A>=0A>=0A>Thanks to everyone who attended the
TCFG Fly-In at Willow Run Airport and m=0A>ade it such a special event.-
We had an awesome time and are still wearing =0A>big smiles from the memori
es!!- Couldn't ask for a greater group of people =0A>to spend a few days
with telling stories, laughing and talking Commanders. =0A>We'll let Moe te
ll you about a special pair of boots he received/won at au=0A>ction for bei
ng such a "kick ass pilot"=0A>=0A>A big thank you to the group of attendees
for your generosity in raising ov=0A>er $2,000 for the Blue Goose restorat
ion!!- WOW!!!- =0A>=0A>If you've never attended you really need to make
it a priority to come next=0A>year and meet some of these incredible peopl
e. You're guaranteed to have a=0A>great time.- BTW. we're taking suggest
ions on where to have the event nex=0A>t year -- some suggested venues incl
ude the Washington DC area, Branson, MO=0A>, and Colorado Springs. =0A>=0A>
~Jim & Sue Metzger=0A>=0A>P.S.- Always remember to remove your chalks pri
or to taxi (Bob & Bob) =0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________- Mess
age 2- _____________________________________=0A>=0A>=0A>Time: 05:04:43 PM
PST US=0A>From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>=0A>Subject: Commander
-List: FLY IN=0A>=0A>HI-ALL, =0A-=0ASORRY THAT EVERYONE WAS NOT ABLE TO
ATTEND A GREAT WEEK =0A>END IN DETROIT.- AS USUAL SUE PUT TOGETHER A GREAT
WEEKEND WITH PLENTY TO=0A>DO.- JIM MAY HAVE HELPED.- AS THEY SAY AT CHURCH
IT WAS GOOD FOOD AND =0A>FELLOWSHIP.=0A-=0AAFTER SPENDING SOME TIME WI
TH OLDER MEMBERS, JIM, BUDDY=0A>AND MOE I SENT THEM SOME INFO ON HOOVER ROU
ND CHAIRS I THOUGHT THEY WOULD =0A>BE INTERESTED IN.- =0A-=0AFLY SAFE,
=0Adan farmer=0A>=0A>________________________________- Message 3- ___
__________________________________=0A>=0A>=0A>Time: 06:13:55 PM PST US=0A>S
ubject: Commander-List: GO-435 troubles...=0A>From: "stratobee" <adam@adamf
risch.com>=0A>=0A>=0A>Hi.=0A>=0A>My left engine did not develop full power
on my way out of Chicago to get to the=0A>fly-in and I had to abort, which
was really sad after have come all the way=0A>from California to join you f
or the first time. I was devastated. Anyway, two=0A>cylinders were down and
after I finally found a guy to pull them on the field=0A>he saw stuff he d
idn't like and he wouldn't sign off on just repairing the cylinders.=0A>The
oil ring had disintegrated and they found metal in the engine. Now,=0A>he
might be "overreacting", having never worked on Commanders or old engines
=0A>before, or he might have a point. Nevertheless, regardless of which I'm
in a=0A>bad pickle - aircraft stuck 1800 miles away from home on an execut
ive field with=0A>mostly big jets and the parking pricing of Signature and
Atlantic... =0A>=0A>I have JimBob and Morris with the ear to the ground and
trying to find a solution=0A>for me and I'm very grateful for that. But I
thought I'd consult the board=0A>as well - does anyone know of any GO-435's
in decent shape, or known to fly, with=0A>papers, or no papers, that could
eventually be for sale anywhere reasonably?=0A>I need to resolve my situat
ion and get her back home. I fear this could take=0A>months and months agai
n if I don't act swiftly and the parking at $30/day will=0A>ruin me...=0A>
=0A>I'm very disheartened at the moment.=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Adam=0A>=0A>=0A
>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.
php?p=352812#352812=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________- Messag
e 4- _____________________________________=0A>=0A>=0A>Time: 06:13:56 PM P
ST US=0A>Subject: Commander-List: GO-435...=0A>From: "stratobee" <adam@adam
frisch.com>=0A>=0A>=0A>Hi.=0A>=0A>My left engine did not develop full power
on my way out of Chicago to get to the=0A>fly-in and I had to abort, which
was really sad after have come all the way=0A>from California to join you
for the first time. I was devastated. Anyway, two=0A>cylinders were down an
d after I finally found a guy to pull them on the field=0A>he saw stuff he
didn't like and he wouldn't sign off on just repairing the cylinders.=0A>Th
e oil ring had disintegrated and they found metal in the engine. Now,=0A>he
might be "overreacting", having never worked on Commanders or old engines
=0A>before, or he might have a point. Nevertheless, regardless of which I'm
in a=0A>bad pickle - aircraft stuck 1800 miles away from home on an execut
ive field with=0A>mostly big jets and the parking pricing of Signature and
Atlantic... =0A>=0A>I have JimBob and Morris with the ear to the ground and
trying to find a solution=0A>for me and I'm very grateful for that. But I
thought I'd consult the board=0A>as well - does anyone know of any GO-435's
in decent shape, or known to fly, with=0A>papers, or no papers, that could
eventually be for sale anywhere reasonably?=0A>I need to resolve my situat
ion and get her back home. I fear this could take=0A>months and months agai
n if I don't act swiftly and the parking at $30/day will=0A>ruin me...=0A>
=0A>I'm very disheartened at the moment.=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Adam=0A>=0A>=0A
>Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.
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| Subject: | Re: GO-435 troubles... |
What happened to 4186B after the gas truck hit it? Should be two good
engines available there.
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| Subject: | Re: GO-435 troubles... |
Probably not what you want to hear but...
Years ago (in my first real flight as a newly minted aircraft owner), I
landed with an engine emergency in Broomfield CO.
It was obvious that the airplane was going to be stranded for weeks.
I explained the situation to the people at Signature and they immediately
gave me a "monthly" that was more of a gift than a rate.
Talk to them, it may be cheaper than buying an engine.
Yet...
ET
PS: Full story at http://kitepilot.com/viking/horror_story.htm
From Alaska: (download the video and play with VLC) :)
http://www.kitepilot.com/AK/champ-roll-needs-vlc.MPEG
http://www.kitepilot.com/AK/champ-spin-needs-vlc.MPEG
http://www.kitepilot.com/AK/click-here-to-download-Vlc-Media-Player.html
stratobee writes:
>
> Hi.
>
> My left engine did not develop full power on my way out of Chicago to get to
the fly-in and I had to abort, which was really sad after have come all the way
from California to join you for the first time. I was devastated. Anyway, two
cylinders were down and after I finally found a guy to pull them on the field
he saw stuff he didn't like and he wouldn't sign off on just repairing the cylinders.
The oil ring had disintegrated and they found metal in the engine. Now,
he might be "overreacting", having never worked on Commanders or old engines
before, or he might have a point. Nevertheless, regardless of which I'm in
a bad pickle - aircraft stuck 1800 miles away from home on an executive field
with mostly big jets and the parking pricing of Signature and Atlantic...
>
> I have JimBob and Morris with the ear to the ground and trying to find a solution
for me and I'm very grateful for that. But I thought I'd consult the board
as well - does anyone know of any GO-435's in decent shape, or known to fly,
with papers, or no papers, that could eventually be for sale anywhere reasonably?
I need to resolve my situation and get her back home. I fear this could take
months and months again if I don't act swiftly and the parking at $30/day
will ruin me...
>
> I'm very disheartened at the moment.
>
> --------
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352812#352812
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/20/11 |
I think Music City U.S.A.( Nashville ,Tn. ) would be a fun place and is
central to a lot of other fun places to visit .Gil
In a message dated 9/21/2011 12:58:55 A.M. Central America Standard ,
commander-list@matronics.com writes:
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1. 01:45 PM - TCFG Fly-In (yourtcfg@aol.com)
2. 05:04 PM - FLY IN (Dan Farmer)
3. 06:13 PM - GO-435 troubles... (stratobee)
4. 06:13 PM - GO-435... (stratobee)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 01:45:54 PM PST US
Subject: Commander-List: TCFG Fly-In
From: yourtcfg@aol.com
Thanks to everyone who attended the TCFG Fly-In at Willow Run Airport and m
ade it such a special event. We had an awesome time and are still wearing
big smiles from the memories!! Couldn't ask for a greater group of people
to spend a few days with telling stories, laughing and talking Commanders.
We'll let Moe tell you about a special pair of boots he received/won at au
ction for being such a "kick ass pilot"
A big thank you to the group of attendees for your generosity in raising ov
er $2,000 for the Blue Goose restoration!! WOW!!!
If you've never attended you really need to make it a priority to come next
year and meet some of these incredible people. You're guaranteed to have a
great time. BTW. we're taking suggestions on where to have the event nex
t year -- some suggested venues include the Washington DC area, Branson, MO
, and Colorado Springs.
~Jim & Sue Metzger
P.S. Always remember to remove your chalks prior to taxi (Bob & Bob)
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 05:04:43 PM PST US
From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Commander-List: FLY IN
HI-ALL, =0A-=0ASORRY THAT EVERYONE WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND A GREAT WEEK
END IN DETROIT.- AS USUAL SUE PUT TOGETHER A GREAT WEEKEND WITH PLENTY TO
DO.- JIM MAY HAVE HELPED.- AS THEY SAY AT CHURCH IT WAS GOOD FOOD AND
FELLOWSHIP.=0A-=0AAFTER SPENDING SOME TIME WITH OLDER MEMBERS, JIM, BUDDY
AND MOE I SENT THEM SOME INFO ON HOOVER ROUND CHAIRS I THOUGHT THEY WOULD
BE INTERESTED IN.- =0A-=0AFLY SAFE, =0Adan farmer
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:13:55 PM PST US
Subject: Commander-List: GO-435 troubles...
From: "stratobee" <adam@adamfrisch.com>
Hi.
My left engine did not develop full power on my way out of Chicago to get
to the
fly-in and I had to abort, which was really sad after have come all the way
from California to join you for the first time. I was devastated. Anyway,
two
cylinders were down and after I finally found a guy to pull them on the
field
he saw stuff he didn't like and he wouldn't sign off on just repairing the
cylinders.
The oil ring had disintegrated and they found metal in the engine. Now,
he might be "overreacting", having never worked on Commanders or old
engines
before, or he might have a point. Nevertheless, regardless of which I'm in
a
bad pickle - aircraft stuck 1800 miles away from home on an executive
field with
mostly big jets and the parking pricing of Signature and Atlantic...
I have JimBob and Morris with the ear to the ground and trying to find a
solution
for me and I'm very grateful for that. But I thought I'd consult the board
as well - does anyone know of any GO-435's in decent shape, or known to
fly, with
papers, or no papers, that could eventually be for sale anywhere
reasonably?
I need to resolve my situation and get her back home. I fear this could
take
months and months again if I don't act swiftly and the parking at $30/day
will
ruin me...
I'm very disheartened at the moment.
--------
Adam
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352812#352812
________________________________ Message 4
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Time: 06:13:56 PM PST US
Subject: Commander-List: GO-435...
From: "stratobee" <adam@adamfrisch.com>
Hi.
My left engine did not develop full power on my way out of Chicago to get
to the
fly-in and I had to abort, which was really sad after have come all the way
from California to join you for the first time. I was devastated. Anyway,
two
cylinders were down and after I finally found a guy to pull them on the
field
he saw stuff he didn't like and he wouldn't sign off on just repairing the
cylinders.
The oil ring had disintegrated and they found metal in the engine. Now,
he might be "overreacting", having never worked on Commanders or old
engines
before, or he might have a point. Nevertheless, regardless of which I'm in
a
bad pickle - aircraft stuck 1800 miles away from home on an executive
field with
mostly big jets and the parking pricing of Signature and Atlantic...
I have JimBob and Morris with the ear to the ground and trying to find a
solution
for me and I'm very grateful for that. But I thought I'd consult the board
as well - does anyone know of any GO-435's in decent shape, or known to
fly, with
papers, or no papers, that could eventually be for sale anywhere
reasonably?
I need to resolve my situation and get her back home. I fear this could
take
months and months again if I don't act swiftly and the parking at $30/day
will
ruin me...
I'm very disheartened at the moment.
--------
Adam
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352813#352813
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