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Barry , I would like a later model Auto-Pilot ,S-Tech etc. Thanks for all
the info . Gil
In a message dated 10/27/2011 12:59:17 A.M. Central America Standard,
commander-list@matronics.com writes:
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1. 03:45 AM - Re: Re: GO-435 troubles... (Barry Collman)
2. 06:21 PM - Re: Re: GO-435 troubles... (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
3. 09:34 PM - Re: Re: Re: GO-435 troubles... (William J Hamilton)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 03:45:43 AM PST US
From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: GO-435 troubles...
Hi Gil,
I'm probably (read certainly) not qualified to answer this but there are
several STC's for installation of an autopilot in a 680.
For example:
SA13WE - Bendix M-4
SA520SW - Bendix M-4C
SA4-1382 - Bendix L-2C
SA662WE - Brittain Industries Autopilot & Hi-Lo sensitivity adaptor BI-400
with NAV-1 nav coupler
SA4-1442 - Collins AP-102
Or, do you mean later examples of autopilots?
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
WINGFLYER1@aol.com
Sent: 26 October 2011 00:16
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GO-435 troubles...
John , Do you happen to know why the 680 was not certified for an
auto-pilot
. I was thinking about having one installed in my 680 and was told by
Auto-Pilot Central folks that the 680 was not certified .Just curious as to
why, however the 680-E is . Thanks Gil
In a message dated 10/15/2011 1:51:43 P.M. Central America Standard ,
johntowner@centralairsouthwest.com writes:
Hello Adam "aka stratobee"
My e-mail to the chat page does not always work but I hope this gets
through
to you. I am an old Commander guy that loves Commanders and I have read
many of your postings. I have much compassion and respect for what you
have
been through and I wish I could help but I have followed many of the
postings and in my opinion you have received some excellent advice from the
TCFG gear engine guys. As for your credit card deli- ma I can certainly
relate. Just my 2 cents worth, get a AX card and if you communicate with
AX
they will work with you (we currently pay for all of our fuel nightly with
our AX card and they have been very good to work with). Take care and if
there is anything I can help you with you e-mail me direct for sometimes my
e-mails do not go through (old age setting in). Oh! and if you want any
Bob
Hoover videos I can send you some, from 1996-2000 I got to ferry Hoov's
aircraft between air show and of course that was much fun) Take care, fly
safe and all the best.
RESPECTFULLY,
John Towner :-)
Central Air
MKC Kansas City
On 10/14/2011 10:41 PM, stratobee wrote:
<mailto:adam@adamfrisch.com> <adam@adamfrisch.com>
Thanks Moe!
So far my only troubles have been with money! Credit card and debit cards
not accepted at various pit stops as they "exceed daily limit". Funny that
-
it's my own money on the debit card, but I can't access it! Banks.
Eventually had to get into town to get some cash to pay re-fueler. All
extremely annoying and time consuming. Tomorrow is a new day and with new
daily limits. Let's hope I can get enough fuel to get back.
Moral of story? One can never have too many credit cards. When one goes
down, move on to the next.
--------
Adam
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________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 06:21:46 PM PST US
From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GO-435 troubles...
Thank you !Gil
In a message dated 10/25/2011 5:57:45 P.M. Central America Standard ,
johntowner@centralairsouthwest.com writes:
Gil-you stumped me, maybe Jim or Barry knows PS-maybe consider a FAA
field
approval. THANKS,JT
On 10/25/2011 6:15 PM, _WINGFLYER1@aol.com_ (mailto:WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
wrote:
John , Do you happen to know why the 680 was not certified for an
auto-pilot . I was thinking about having one installed in my 680 and was
told
by
Auto-Pilot Central folks that the 680 was not certified .Just curious as
to
why, however the 680-E is . Thanks Gil
In a message dated 10/15/2011 1:51:43 P.M. Central America Standard ,
_johntowner@centralairsouthwest.com_
(mailto:johntowner@centralairsouthwest.com)
writes:
Hello Adam "aka stratobee"
My e-mail to the chat page does not always work but I hope this gets
through to you. I am an old Commander guy that loves Commanders and I
have
read many of your postings. I have much compassion and respect for what
you
have been through and I wish I could help but I have followed many of the
postings and in my opinion you have received some excellent advice from
the
TCFG gear engine guys. As for your credit card deli- ma I can certainly
relate. Just my 2 cents worth, get a AX card and if you communicate with
AX
they will work with you (we currently pay for all of our fuel nightly
with
our AX card and they have been very good to work with). Take care and if
there is anything I can help you with you e-mail me direct for sometimes
my
e-mails do not go through (old age setting in). Oh! and if you want any
Bob Hoover videos I can send you some, from 1996-2000 I got to ferry
Hoov's
aircraft between air show and of course that was much fun) Take care,
fly
safe and all the best.
RESPECTFULLY,
John Towner :-)
Central Air
MKC Kansas City
On 10/14/2011 10:41 PM, stratobee wrote:
(mailto:adam@adamfrisch.com)
Thanks Moe!
So far my only troubles have been with money! Credit card and debit cards
not accepted at various pit stops as they "exceed daily limit". Funny that
-
it's my own money on the debit card, but I can't access it! Banks.
Eventually had to get into town to get some cash to pay re-fueler. All
extremely
annoying and time consuming. Tomorrow is a new day and with new daily
limits.
Let's hope I can get enough fuel to get back.
Moral of story? One can never have too many credit cards. When one goes
down, move on to the next.
--------
Adam
Read this topic online here:
_http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355074#355074_
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href=_"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List"_
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________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 09:34:29 PM PST US
From: William J Hamilton <wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: RE: Commander-List: Re: GO-435 troubles...
Folks,
I would have thought that a field approval 337 would be the way to go, in
the absence
of an existing STC, if you want to fit an STec, for example.
I know that at lest one Commander in AU has had an STec fitted under our
equivalent
of a 337.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
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-------------------------------------
> Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Gil,
>
>
>
> I'm probably (read certainly) not qualified to answer this but there are
> several STC's for installation of an autopilot in a 680.
>
> For example:
>
> SA13WE - Bendix M-4
>
> SA520SW - Bendix M-4C
>
> SA4-1382 - Bendix L-2C
>
> SA662WE - Brittain Industries Autopilot & Hi-Lo sensitivity adaptor
> BI-400
> with NAV-1 nav coupler
>
> SA4-1442 - Collins AP-102
>
>
>
> Or, do you mean later examples of autopilots?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> WINGFLYER1@aol.com
> Sent: 26 October 2011 00:16
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GO-435 troubles...
>
>
>
> John , Do you happen to know why the 680 was not certified for an
> auto-pilot
> . I was thinking about having one installed in my 680 and was told by
> Auto-Pilot Central folks that the 680 was not certified .Just curious as
> to
> why, however the 680-E is . Thanks Gil
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/15/2011 1:51:43 P.M. Central America Standard ,
> johntowner@centralairsouthwest.com writes:
>
> Hello Adam "aka stratobee"
>
> My e-mail to the chat page does not always work but I hope this gets
> through
> to you. I am an old Commander guy that loves Commanders and I have
> read
> many of your postings. I have much compassion and respect for what you
> have
> been through and I wish I could help but I have followed many of the
> postings and in my opinion you have received some excellent advice from
> the
> TCFG gear engine guys. As for your credit card deli- ma I can certainly
> relate. Just my 2 cents worth, get a AX card and if you communicate
> with AX
> they will work with you (we currently pay for all of our fuel nightly
> with
> our AX card and they have been very good to work with). Take care and
> if
> there is anything I can help you with you e-mail me direct for sometimes
> my
> e-mails do not go through (old age setting in). Oh! and if you want any
> Bob
> Hoover videos I can send you some, from 1996-2000 I got to ferry Hoov's
> aircraft between air show and of course that was much fun) Take care,
> fly
> safe and all the best.
>
> RESPECTFULLY,
>
> John Towner :-)
> Central Air
> MKC Kansas City
>
> On 10/14/2011 10:41 PM, stratobee wrote:
>
> <mailto:adam@adamfrisch.com> <adam@adamfrisch.com>
>
> Thanks Moe!
>
> So far my only troubles have been with money! Credit card and debit
> cards
> not accepted at various pit stops as they "exceed daily limit". Funny
> that -
> it's my own money on the debit card, but I can't access it! Banks.
> Eventually had to get into town to get some cash to pay re-fueler. All
> extremely annoying and time consuming. Tomorrow is a new day and with
> new
> daily limits. Let's hope I can get enough fuel to get back.
>
> Moral of story? One can never have too many credit cards. When one goes
> down, move on to the next.
>
> --------
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355074#355074
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matro
> nic
> s.com/Navigator?Commander-List
> s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com
> p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Thanks Bill , I will explore this with a friend of mine with the local
Faa(FISDO) office .Gil
In a message dated 10/26/2011 10:35:35 P.M. Central America Standard,
wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au writes:
--> Commander-List message posted by: William J Hamilton
<wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
Folks,
I would have thought that a field approval 337 would be the way to go, in
the absence of an existing STC, if you want to fit an STec, for example.
I know that at lest one Commander in AU has had an STec fitted under our
equivalent of a 337.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------
> Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi Gil,
>
>
>
> I'm probably (read certainly) not qualified to answer this but there are
> several STC's for installation of an autopilot in a 680.
>
> For example:
>
> SA13WE - Bendix M-4
>
> SA520SW - Bendix M-4C
>
> SA4-1382 - Bendix L-2C
>
> SA662WE - Brittain Industries Autopilot & Hi-Lo sensitivity adaptor
> BI-400
> with NAV-1 nav coupler
>
> SA4-1442 - Collins AP-102
>
>
>
> Or, do you mean later examples of autopilots?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> WINGFLYER1@aol.com
> Sent: 26 October 2011 00:16
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GO-435 troubles...
>
>
>
> John , Do you happen to know why the 680 was not certified for an
> auto-pilot
> . I was thinking about having one installed in my 680 and was told by
> Auto-Pilot Central folks that the 680 was not certified .Just curious as
> to
> why, however the 680-E is . Thanks Gil
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/15/2011 1:51:43 P.M. Central America Standard ,
> johntowner@centralairsouthwest.com writes:
>
> Hello Adam "aka stratobee"
>
> My e-mail to the chat page does not always work but I hope this gets
> through
> to you. I am an old Commander guy that loves Commanders and I have
> read
> many of your postings. I have much compassion and respect for what you
> have
> been through and I wish I could help but I have followed many of the
> postings and in my opinion you have received some excellent advice from
> the
> TCFG gear engine guys. As for your credit card deli- ma I can certainly
> relate. Just my 2 cents worth, get a AX card and if you communicate
> with AX
> they will work with you (we currently pay for all of our fuel nightly
> with
> our AX card and they have been very good to work with). Take care and
> if
> there is anything I can help you with you e-mail me direct for sometimes
> my
> e-mails do not go through (old age setting in). Oh! and if you want any
> Bob
> Hoover videos I can send you some, from 1996-2000 I got to ferry Hoov's
> aircraft between air show and of course that was much fun) Take care,
> fly
> safe and all the best.
>
> RESPECTFULLY,
>
> John Towner :-)
> Central Air
> MKC Kansas City
>
> On 10/14/2011 10:41 PM, stratobee wrote:
>
> <mailto:adam@adamfrisch.com> <adam@adamfrisch.com>
>
> Thanks Moe!
>
> So far my only troubles have been with money! Credit card and debit
> cards
> not accepted at various pit stops as they "exceed daily limit". Funny
> that -
> it's my own money on the debit card, but I can't access it! Banks.
> Eventually had to get into town to get some cash to pay re-fueler. All
> extremely annoying and time consuming. Tomorrow is a new day and with
> new
> daily limits. Let's hope I can get enough fuel to get back.
>
> Moral of story? One can never have too many credit cards. When one goes
> down, move on to the next.
>
> --------
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355074#355074
>
>
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