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1. 12:16 AM - Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 (daniellfarmer@yahoo.com)
2. 03:43 AM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 (Steele, Bob)
3. 04:11 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Barry Collman)
4. 09:15 AM - Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight ()
5. 09:18 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Matt Dralle)
6. 09:37 AM - Re: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight (William Boelte)
7. 09:43 AM - Re: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight (John Vormbaum)
8. 09:59 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (swperk@earthlink.net)
9. 10:48 AM - Re: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight (Nick Martin)
10. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 (Moe Mills)
11. 04:20 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (William J Hamilton)
12. 06:05 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (mike floyd)
13. 07:14 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (Moe Mills)
14. 07:22 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Moe Mills)
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Moe. I have heard of one in Farmington.
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1. 11:06 PM - SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Moe Mills)
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Time: 11:06:50 PM PST US
From: Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com>
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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Wow - Moe - that's where you live! How lucky!
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Moe. I have heard of one in Farmington.
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1. 11:06 PM - SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Moe Mills)
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Time: 11:06:50 PM PST US
From: Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com>
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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| Subject: | SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER |
Hi Moe,
Last I knew:
N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info from
a photo taken in January 2011.
N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from
a photo taken in February 2011.
N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC.,
Marion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009.
If none of these prove fruitful, I'll try some of the other Models.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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| Subject: | Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight |
Dear Commander Gurus' :
We started to lose hydraulic pressure in my 690A commander .Pressure went
from 900# to 500# . We followed emergency procedure which calls for the
pulling of the breaker for the aux. hydraulic pump and continued the flight
.Then as is procedure we pushed in the breaker and the gear came down
without a problem..
My question is why not fly with the aux. hydraulic breaker pulled all the
time? This would prevent loss of all fluid if you did not catch the loss
soon enough.
Any comments ? Nick N674NM
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:08 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
Hi Moe,
Last I knew:
N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info from
a photo taken in January 2011.
N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from a
photo taken in February 2011.
N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC.,
Marion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009.
If none of these prove fruitful, I'll try some of the other Models.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER |
At 11:03 PM 2/7/2012 Tuesday, you wrote:
>COMMANDERLAND'
>
>DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
>680t
>680flp
>680F(p)
>
>THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
>
>THANX!
>
>Moe Mills
>N680RR
>680F(p)
Moe,
There's a crusty Commander at Livermore (KLVK) that has been just sitting neglected
for 10 years or so now. I don't have the N-number, but you could call the
airport manager and find out who owns it and what the story is.
(925) 373-5392
Best regards,
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 55+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| Subject: | Re: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight |
This is the procedure which has been strongly advocated by our high priest, G
ordon, for years. It sure makes life simple in the event of a hydraulic prob
lem.
Kindest regards,
Bill
On Feb 8, 2012, at 11:10, <nick@container.com> wrote:
> Dear Commander Gurus=99 :
>
> We started to lose hydraulic pressure in my 690A commander .Pressure went f
rom 900# to 500# . We followed emergency procedure which calls for the pulli
ng of the breaker for the aux. hydraulic pump and continued the flight .Then
as is procedure we pushed in the breaker and the gear came down without a p
roblem..
>
> My question is why not fly with the aux. hydraulic breaker pulled all the t
ime? This would prevent loss of all fluid if you did not catch the loss soon
enough
>
>
>
> Any comments ? Nick N674NM
>
>
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:08 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
>
>
>
> Hi Moe,
>
>
>
> Last I knew:
>
>
>
> N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info fro
m a photo taken in January 2011.
>
>
>
> N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from
a photo taken in February 2011.
>
>
>
> N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC., Ma
rion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009.
>
>
>
> If none of these prove fruitful, I=99ll try some of the other Models
.
>
>
>
> Very Best Regards,
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
> Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03
> To: Com
> Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
>
>
>
> COMMANDERLAND'
>
> DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
> 680t
> 680flp
> 680F(p)
>
> THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
>
> THANX!
>
> Moe Mills
> N680RR
> 680F(p)
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight |
Nick, I was trained on my 500B to "rotate, gear up, flaps up, pull aux
breaker". Most of the piston guys were trained the same, from what I know. I
think it's a good way to fly.
I also speak from the 'other side' having had a complete hydraulic failure
that resulted in a very gentle nosegear collapse about 7 years ago. That was
really from my own stupidity, having regained some hydraulic pressure after
the failure, and thinking I could cycle the gear. I broke the cardinal rule:
DON'T TOUCH THE GEAR HANDLE once you've put it down.
Also, guessing that there is some system commonality between my 500B and
your 690A, it would be worth pointing out (IIRC) that the aux pump only
operates the flaps, brakes and steering. 500# from the aux either isn't
enough oomf or enough volume to run the gear and I think it's not in the
same circuit. I could be wrong on this but I don't think so.
On the bright side, even if you have zero hydraulic pressure, the gear will
come down and lock by just putting the gear handle down.
Cheers,
/J
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
nick@container.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:10 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight
Dear Commander Gurus' :
We started to lose hydraulic pressure in my 690A commander .Pressure went
from 900# to 500# . We followed emergency procedure which calls for the
pulling of the breaker for the aux. hydraulic pump and continued the flight
.Then as is procedure we pushed in the breaker and the gear came down
without a problem..
My question is why not fly with the aux. hydraulic breaker pulled all the
time? This would prevent loss of all fluid if you did not catch the loss
soon enough.
Any comments ? Nick N674NM
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:08 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
Hi Moe,
Last I knew:
N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info from
a photo taken in January 2011.
N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from a
photo taken in February 2011.
N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC.,
Marion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009.
If none of these prove fruitful, I'll try some of the other Models.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER |
Is it this one? Cut and paste these coordinates into Google Maps and zoom in:
37.690789,-121.810109
If so, it looks like a bathtub-nacelle Commander.
Stan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>Sent: Feb 8, 2012 9:12 AM
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
>
>
>At 11:03 PM 2/7/2012 Tuesday, you wrote:
>>COMMANDERLAND'
>>
>>DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
>>680t
>>680flp
>>680F(p)
>>
>>THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
>>
>>THANX!
>>
>>Moe Mills
>>N680RR
>>680F(p)
>
>Moe,
>
>There's a crusty Commander at Livermore (KLVK) that has been just sitting neglected
for 10 years or so now. I don't have the N-number, but you could call the
airport manager and find out who owns it and what the story is.
>(925) 373-5392
>
>Best regards,
>
>-
>Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
>
>RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
>http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
>http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
>http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
>Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
>RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
>http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
>Status: 55+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
>
>
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| Subject: | Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight |
John,
When I pushed in the aux hyd breaker the pressure went back up to 900#
..maybe residual hyd fluid flowed back in the tank ? .I also had pulled the
breaker for the gear thinking it might help stop the flow from the unknown
location . Later we found that O rings were leaking..nick
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Vormbaum
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight
Nick, I was trained on my 500B to "rotate, gear up, flaps up, pull aux
breaker". Most of the piston guys were trained the same, from what I know. I
think it's a good way to fly.
I also speak from the 'other side' having had a complete hydraulic failure
that resulted in a very gentle nosegear collapse about 7 years ago. That was
really from my own stupidity, having regained some hydraulic pressure after
the failure, and thinking I could cycle the gear. I broke the cardinal rule:
DON'T TOUCH THE GEAR HANDLE once you've put it down.
Also, guessing that there is some system commonality between my 500B and
your 690A, it would be worth pointing out (IIRC) that the aux pump only
operates the flaps, brakes and steering. 500# from the aux either isn't
enough oomf or enough volume to run the gear and I think it's not in the
same circuit. I could be wrong on this but I don't think so.
On the bright side, even if you have zero hydraulic pressure, the gear will
come down and lock by just putting the gear handle down.
Cheers,
/J
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
nick@container.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:10 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight
Dear Commander Gurus' :
We started to lose hydraulic pressure in my 690A commander .Pressure went
from 900# to 500# . We followed emergency procedure which calls for the
pulling of the breaker for the aux. hydraulic pump and continued the flight
.Then as is procedure we pushed in the breaker and the gear came down
without a problem..
My question is why not fly with the aux. hydraulic breaker pulled all the
time? This would prevent loss of all fluid if you did not catch the loss
soon enough.
Any comments ? Nick N674NM
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:08 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
Hi Moe,
Last I knew:
N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info from
a photo taken in January 2011.
N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from a
photo taken in February 2011.
N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC.,
Marion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009.
If none of these prove fruitful, I'll try some of the other Models.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
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| Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 |
Dan=2C
You sir=2C have been misinformed! The one in Farmington is a real cream pu
ff.
No Regards
Moe
N680RR
> Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> From: daniellfarmer@yahoo.com
> Date: Wed=2C 8 Feb 2012 08:12:02 +0000
>
>
> Moe. I have heard of one in Farmington.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Tue=2C 7 Feb 2012 23:56:30
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> 1. 11:06 PM - SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Moe Mills)
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> ________________________________ Message 1 ______________________________
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>
> Time: 11:06:50 PM PST US
> From: Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
>
>
> COMMANDERLAND'
>
> DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
> 680t
> 680flp
> 680F(p)
>
> THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
>
> THANX!
>
> Moe Mills
> N680RR
> 680F(p)
>
>
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| Subject: | SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER |
Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they
are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
Message 12
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What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger?
From: wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Moe=2C
Try General Aviation Maintenance=2C Essendon Aerodrome=2C Melbourne=2C AU
=2C they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers=2C
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday=2C February 08=2C 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhttp://forums.matronics
.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Mike=2C
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic motor(#MF
033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of other ite
ms that I would like to have if they were available at a good price. McGill
made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail. SKF made a bea
ring (#NU1910E) that was very similar=2C however=2C no one has one in stock
that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14=2C500.00 exchange +
$ 9=2C500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in
my unit. (2) $ 19=2C880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9=2C500.00 core charge. Both pri
ces of course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended l
ead times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed
air instead of a cabin supercharger=2C which would unfortunately rule out
Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia.
Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill=2C GA) show it to not have an air
scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F and not a 680F
(p). I will try to confirm this tomorrow.
Without the cabin supercharger not only can the cabin not be pressurized=2C
the heater will not work=2C as this supercharger supplies the air for the
heater both on the ground and in the air.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help. Obviously=2C any addition
al suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Regards=2C
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
From: floydgm@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger?
From: wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Moe=2C
Try General Aviation Maintenance=2C Essendon Aerodrome=2C Melbourne=2C AU
=2C they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers=2C
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday=2C February 08=2C 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhttp://forums.matronics
.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER |
Stan=2C
Thanks much for that. It does appear that this is a bathtub-nacelle Comman
der.
Regards=2C
Moe
N680RR
> Date: Wed=2C 8 Feb 2012 09:53:30 -0800
> From: swperk@earthlink.net
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
>
>
> Is it this one? Cut and paste these coordinates into Google Maps and zoom
in:
>
> 37.690789=2C-121.810109
>
> If so=2C it looks like a bathtub-nacelle Commander.
>
> Stan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> >Sent: Feb 8=2C 2012 9:12 AM
> >To: commander-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
> >
> >
> >At 11:03 PM 2/7/2012 Tuesday=2C you wrote:
> >>COMMANDERLAND'
> >>
> >>DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
> >>680t
> >>680flp
> >>680F(p)
> >>
> >>THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
> >>
> >>THANX!
> >>
> >>Moe Mills
> >>N680RR
> >>680F(p)
> >
> >Moe=2C
> >
> >There's a crusty Commander at Livermore (KLVK) that has been just sittin
g neglected for 10 years or so now. I don't have the N-number=2C but you co
uld call the airport manager and find out who owns it and what the story is
.
> >(925) 373-5392
> >
> >Best regards=2C
> >
> >-
> >Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
> >
> >RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> >http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> >http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> >http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> >Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
> >
> >RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> >http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> >Status: 55+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete=3B Now In Full Flye
r Mode
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