---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/08/12: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:16 AM - Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 (daniellfarmer@yahoo.com) 2. 03:43 AM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 (Steele, Bob) 3. 04:11 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Barry Collman) 4. 09:15 AM - Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight () 5. 09:18 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Matt Dralle) 6. 09:37 AM - Re: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight (William Boelte) 7. 09:43 AM - Re: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight (John Vormbaum) 8. 09:59 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (swperk@earthlink.net) 9. 10:48 AM - Re: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight (Nick Martin) 10. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 (Moe Mills) 11. 04:20 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (William J Hamilton) 12. 06:05 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (mike floyd) 13. 07:14 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (Moe Mills) 14. 07:22 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Moe Mills) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:13 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 From: daniellfarmer@yahoo.com Moe. I have heard of one in Farmington. -----Original Message----- From: Commander-List Digest Server Sender: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Commander-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Commander-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. 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Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:37 AM PST US Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 From: "Steele, Bob" Wow - Moe - that's where you live! How lucky! -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of daniellfarmer@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:12 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 Moe. I have heard of one in Farmington. -----Original Message----- From: Commander-List Digest Server Sender: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 * ======================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== Today's complete Commander-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. 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Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:27 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER Hi Moe, Last I knew: N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info from a photo taken in January 2011. N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from a photo taken in February 2011. N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC., Marion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009. If none of these prove fruitful, I'll try some of the other Models. Very Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03 Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER COMMANDERLAND' DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A 680t 680flp 680F(p) THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? THANX! Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:41 AM PST US From: Subject: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight Dear Commander Gurus' : We started to lose hydraulic pressure in my 690A commander .Pressure went from 900# to 500# . We followed emergency procedure which calls for the pulling of the breaker for the aux. hydraulic pump and continued the flight .Then as is procedure we pushed in the breaker and the gear came down without a problem.. My question is why not fly with the aux. hydraulic breaker pulled all the time? This would prevent loss of all fluid if you did not catch the loss soon enough. Any comments ? Nick N674NM From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:08 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER Hi Moe, Last I knew: N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info from a photo taken in January 2011. N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from a photo taken in February 2011. N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC., Marion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009. If none of these prove fruitful, I'll try some of the other Models. Very Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03 Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER COMMANDERLAND' DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A 680t 680flp 680F(p) THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? THANX! Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:00 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER At 11:03 PM 2/7/2012 Tuesday, you wrote: >COMMANDERLAND' > >DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A >680t >680flp >680F(p) > >THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? > >THANX! > >Moe Mills >N680RR >680F(p) Moe, There's a crusty Commander at Livermore (KLVK) that has been just sitting neglected for 10 years or so now. I don't have the N-number, but you could call the airport manager and find out who owns it and what the story is. (925) 373-5392 Best regards, - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 55+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:26 AM PST US From: William Boelte Subject: Re: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight This is the procedure which has been strongly advocated by our high priest, G ordon, for years. It sure makes life simple in the event of a hydraulic prob lem. Kindest regards, Bill On Feb 8, 2012, at 11:10, wrote: > Dear Commander Gurus=99 : > > We started to lose hydraulic pressure in my 690A commander .Pressure went f rom 900# to 500# . We followed emergency procedure which calls for the pulli ng of the breaker for the aux. hydraulic pump and continued the flight .Then as is procedure we pushed in the breaker and the gear came down without a p roblem.. > > My question is why not fly with the aux. hydraulic breaker pulled all the t ime? This would prevent loss of all fluid if you did not catch the loss soon enough > > > > Any comments ? Nick N674NM > > > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:08 AM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER > > > > Hi Moe, > > > > Last I knew: > > > > N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info fro m a photo taken in January 2011. > > > > N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from a photo taken in February 2011. > > > > N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC., Ma rion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009. > > > > If none of these prove fruitful, I=99ll try some of the other Models .. > > > > Very Best Regards, > > Barry > > > > > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills > Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03 > To: Com > Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER > > > > COMMANDERLAND' > > DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A > 680t > 680flp > 680F(p) > > THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? > > THANX! > > Moe Mills > N680RR > 680F(p) > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:25 AM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight Nick, I was trained on my 500B to "rotate, gear up, flaps up, pull aux breaker". Most of the piston guys were trained the same, from what I know. I think it's a good way to fly. I also speak from the 'other side' having had a complete hydraulic failure that resulted in a very gentle nosegear collapse about 7 years ago. That was really from my own stupidity, having regained some hydraulic pressure after the failure, and thinking I could cycle the gear. I broke the cardinal rule: DON'T TOUCH THE GEAR HANDLE once you've put it down. Also, guessing that there is some system commonality between my 500B and your 690A, it would be worth pointing out (IIRC) that the aux pump only operates the flaps, brakes and steering. 500# from the aux either isn't enough oomf or enough volume to run the gear and I think it's not in the same circuit. I could be wrong on this but I don't think so. On the bright side, even if you have zero hydraulic pressure, the gear will come down and lock by just putting the gear handle down. Cheers, /J From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nick@container.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight Dear Commander Gurus' : We started to lose hydraulic pressure in my 690A commander .Pressure went from 900# to 500# . We followed emergency procedure which calls for the pulling of the breaker for the aux. hydraulic pump and continued the flight .Then as is procedure we pushed in the breaker and the gear came down without a problem.. My question is why not fly with the aux. hydraulic breaker pulled all the time? This would prevent loss of all fluid if you did not catch the loss soon enough. Any comments ? Nick N674NM From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:08 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER Hi Moe, Last I knew: N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info from a photo taken in January 2011. N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from a photo taken in February 2011. N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC., Marion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009. If none of these prove fruitful, I'll try some of the other Models. Very Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03 Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER COMMANDERLAND' DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A 680t 680flp 680F(p) THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? THANX! Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:17 AM PST US From: swperk@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER Is it this one? Cut and paste these coordinates into Google Maps and zoom in: 37.690789,-121.810109 If so, it looks like a bathtub-nacelle Commander. Stan -----Original Message----- >From: Matt Dralle >Sent: Feb 8, 2012 9:12 AM >To: commander-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER > > >At 11:03 PM 2/7/2012 Tuesday, you wrote: >>COMMANDERLAND' >> >>DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A >>680t >>680flp >>680F(p) >> >>THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? >> >>THANX! >> >>Moe Mills >>N680RR >>680F(p) > >Moe, > >There's a crusty Commander at Livermore (KLVK) that has been just sitting neglected for 10 years or so now. I don't have the N-number, but you could call the airport manager and find out who owns it and what the story is. >(925) 373-5392 > >Best regards, > >- >Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle > >RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" >http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log >http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log >http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel >Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > >RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" >http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log >Status: 55+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:42 AM PST US From: "Nick Martin" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight John, When I pushed in the aux hyd breaker the pressure went back up to 900# ..maybe residual hyd fluid flowed back in the tank ? .I also had pulled the breaker for the gear thinking it might help stop the flow from the unknown location . Later we found that O rings were leaking..nick From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Vormbaum Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:38 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight Nick, I was trained on my 500B to "rotate, gear up, flaps up, pull aux breaker". Most of the piston guys were trained the same, from what I know. I think it's a good way to fly. I also speak from the 'other side' having had a complete hydraulic failure that resulted in a very gentle nosegear collapse about 7 years ago. That was really from my own stupidity, having regained some hydraulic pressure after the failure, and thinking I could cycle the gear. I broke the cardinal rule: DON'T TOUCH THE GEAR HANDLE once you've put it down. Also, guessing that there is some system commonality between my 500B and your 690A, it would be worth pointing out (IIRC) that the aux pump only operates the flaps, brakes and steering. 500# from the aux either isn't enough oomf or enough volume to run the gear and I think it's not in the same circuit. I could be wrong on this but I don't think so. On the bright side, even if you have zero hydraulic pressure, the gear will come down and lock by just putting the gear handle down. Cheers, /J From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nick@container.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: Commander-List: Lost Hydraulic pressure in flight Dear Commander Gurus' : We started to lose hydraulic pressure in my 690A commander .Pressure went from 900# to 500# . We followed emergency procedure which calls for the pulling of the breaker for the aux. hydraulic pump and continued the flight .Then as is procedure we pushed in the breaker and the gear came down without a problem.. My question is why not fly with the aux. hydraulic breaker pulled all the time? This would prevent loss of all fluid if you did not catch the loss soon enough. Any comments ? Nick N674NM From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:08 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER Hi Moe, Last I knew: N55GL, 680F(P) s/n 1200-104, was derelict at Berry Hill, Georgia. Info from a photo taken in January 2011. N27GA, 680F(P) s/n 1212-111, was derelict at Corona, California. Info from a photo taken in February 2011. N70QT, 680F(P) s/n 1208-109, was being parted out by Mountain Air LLC., Marion, Iowa following its accident in July 2009. If none of these prove fruitful, I'll try some of the other Models. Very Best Regards, Barry From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills Sent: 08 February 2012 07:03 Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER COMMANDERLAND' DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A 680t 680flp 680F(p) THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? THANX! Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:18 PM PST US From: Moe Mills Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 Dan=2C You sir=2C have been misinformed! The one in Farmington is a real cream pu ff. No Regards Moe N680RR > Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 > To: commander-list@matronics.com > From: daniellfarmer@yahoo.com > Date: Wed=2C 8 Feb 2012 08:12:02 +0000 > > > Moe. I have heard of one in Farmington. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Commander-List Digest Server > Sender: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > Date: Tue=2C 7 Feb 2012 23:56:30 > To: Commander-List Digest List > Subject: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/07/12 > > * > > ======================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== > > Today's complete Commander-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Commander-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 12-02-07&Archive=Commander > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 12-02-07&Archive=Commander > > > ======================== ======================= > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== ======================= > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Commander-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 02/07/12: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 11:06 PM - SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Moe Mills) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 ______________________________ _______ > > > Time: 11:06:50 PM PST US > From: Moe Mills > Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER > > > COMMANDERLAND' > > DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A > 680t > 680flp > 680F(p) > > THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? > > THANX! > > Moe Mills > N680RR > 680F(p) > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:42 PM PST US From: "William J Hamilton" Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER Moe, Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s. Cheers, Bill Hamilton From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER COMMANDERLAND' DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A 680t 680flp 680F(p) THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? THANX! Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:20 PM PST US From: mike floyd Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger? From: wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER Moe=2C Try General Aviation Maintenance=2C Essendon Aerodrome=2C Melbourne=2C AU =2C they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s. Cheers=2C Bill Hamilton From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills Sent: Wednesday=2C February 08=2C 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER COMMANDERLAND' DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A 680t 680flp 680F(p) THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? THANX! Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhttp://forums.matronics .comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:06 PM PST US From: Moe Mills Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER Mike=2C All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic motor(#MF 033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of other ite ms that I would like to have if they were available at a good price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail. SKF made a bea ring (#NU1910E) that was very similar=2C however=2C no one has one in stock that I can find. I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14=2C500.00 exchange + $ 9=2C500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my unit. (2) $ 19=2C880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9=2C500.00 core charge. Both pri ces of course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended l ead times. It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed air instead of a cabin supercharger=2C which would unfortunately rule out Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia. Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill=2C GA) show it to not have an air scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F and not a 680F (p). I will try to confirm this tomorrow. Without the cabin supercharger not only can the cabin not be pressurized=2C the heater will not work=2C as this supercharger supplies the air for the heater both on the ground and in the air. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help. Obviously=2C any addition al suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Regards=2C Moe N680RR 680F(p) From: floydgm@hotmail.com Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger? From: wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER Moe=2C Try General Aviation Maintenance=2C Essendon Aerodrome=2C Melbourne=2C AU =2C they are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s. Cheers=2C Bill Hamilton From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills Sent: Wednesday=2C February 08=2C 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER COMMANDERLAND' DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A 680t 680flp 680F(p) THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? THANX! Moe Mills N680RR 680F(p) http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhttp://forums.matronics .comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution st" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List ttp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:54 PM PST US From: Moe Mills Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER Stan=2C Thanks much for that. It does appear that this is a bathtub-nacelle Comman der. Regards=2C Moe N680RR > Date: Wed=2C 8 Feb 2012 09:53:30 -0800 > From: swperk@earthlink.net > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER > > > Is it this one? Cut and paste these coordinates into Google Maps and zoom in: > > 37.690789=2C-121.810109 > > If so=2C it looks like a bathtub-nacelle Commander. > > Stan > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Matt Dralle > >Sent: Feb 8=2C 2012 9:12 AM > >To: commander-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER > > > > > >At 11:03 PM 2/7/2012 Tuesday=2C you wrote: > >>COMMANDERLAND' > >> > >>DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A > >>680t > >>680flp > >>680F(p) > >> > >>THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT? > >> > >>THANX! > >> > >>Moe Mills > >>N680RR > >>680F(p) > > > >Moe=2C > > > >There's a crusty Commander at Livermore (KLVK) that has been just sittin g neglected for 10 years or so now. I don't have the N-number=2C but you co uld call the airport manager and find out who owns it and what the story is . > >(925) 373-5392 > > > >Best regards=2C > > > >- > >Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle > > > >RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > >http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > >http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > >http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > >Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > > >RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" > >http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log > >Status: 55+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete=3B Now In Full Flye r Mode > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.