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1. 12:05 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (Morris Kernick)
2. 03:53 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (Barry Collman)
3. 08:06 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (BillLeff1@aol.com)
4. 08:45 AM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (Moe Mills)
5. 05:58 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (BillLeff1@aol.com)
6. 06:35 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (William J Hamilton)
7. 08:43 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER (stratobee)
8. 08:50 PM - Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER (stratobee)
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| Subject: | Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER |
The airplane in Livermore is a 560A-HC, N382JH, S/N 382. Morris
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Stan,
>
> Thanks much for that. It does appear that this is a bathtub-nacelle
> Commander.
>
> Regards,
>
> Moe
> N680RR
>
>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:53:30 -0800
>> From: swperk@earthlink.net
>
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
>>
>>
>> Is it this one? Cut and paste these coordinates into Google Maps and zoom
>> in:
>>
>> 37.690789,-121.810109
>>
>> If so, it looks like a bathtub-nacelle Commander.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>> >Sent: Feb 8, 2012 9:12 AM
>> >To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
>> >
>> >
>> >At 11:03 PM 2/7/2012 Tuesday, you wrote:
>> >>COMMANDERLAND'
>> >>
>> >>DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
>> >>680t
>> >>680flp
>> >>680F(p)
>> >>
>> >>THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
>> >>
>> >>THANX!
>> >>
>> >>Moe Mills
>> >>N680RR
>> >>680F(p)
>> >
>> >Moe,
>> >
>> >There's a crusty Commander at Livermore (KLVK) that has been just sitting
>> > neglected for 10 years or so now. I don't have the N-number, but you could
>> > call the airport manager and find out who owns it and what the story is.
>> >(925) 373-5392
>> >
>> >Best regards,
>> >
>> >-
>> >Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
>> >
>> >RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
>> >http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
>> >http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
>> >http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
>> >Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>> >
>> >RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
>> >http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
>> >Status: 55+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
>> > Mode
>> >
>> >
>> &g======================
> &g======
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER |
Hi Moe,
N55GL is definitely a 680F(P).
I have quite a few shots of it at Berry Hill, including one of the dorsal
scoop itself, which is also visible in a few of the shots.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 09 February 2012 03:11
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Mike,
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic
motor(#MF033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of
other items that I would like to have if they were available at a good
price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail.
SKF made a bearing (#NU1910E) that was very similar, however, no one has
one in stock that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14,500.00 exchange + $
9,500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my
unit. (2) $ 19,880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9,500.00 core charge. Both prices of
course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended lead
times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed
air instead of a cabin supercharger, which would unfortunately rule out
Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia.
Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill, GA) show it to not have an air
scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F and not a
680F(p). I will try to confirm this tomorrow.
Without the cabin supercharger not only can the cabin not be pressurized,
the heater will not work, as this supercharger supplies the air for the
heater both on the ground and in the air.
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help. Obviously, any additional
suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
_____
From: floydgm@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
What are you looking for Moe a cabin supercharger?
_____
From: wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Moe,
Try General Aviation Maintenance, Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, AU, they
are parting out a 680 FLP with IO-720s.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER
COMMANDERLAND'
DOES ANYONE KNOW OF A
680t
680flp
680F(p)
THAT IS EITHER DERALICT OR BEING PARTED OUT?
THANX!
Moe Mills
N680RR
680F(p)
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| Subject: | SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER |
Herry Merritt had motors and a complete 680FP when he pass away. I stopped
by this summer and his hangar was cleaned out. I was told that his son moved
it all if you can track him down
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Phone
-----Original message-----
From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:53:39 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Hi Moe,
N55GL is definitely a 680F(P).
I have quite a few shots of it at Berry Hill, including one of the dorsal
scoop itself, which is also visible in a few of the shots.
Best Regards,
Barry
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe Mills
Sent: 09 February 2012 03:11
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Mike,
All I really need is the roller bearing for the Vickers hydraulic
motor(#MF033B007B) that drives the cabin supercharger. There are a lot of
other items that I would like to have if they were available at a good
price. McGill made the bearing (# VS-211490) but does not have it avail.
SKF made a bearing (#NU1910E) that was very similar, however, no one has
one in stock that I can find.
I have received two quotes for a rebuilt motor (1) $ 14,500.00 exchange + $
9,500 core charge and they will back bill me for any unusable parts in my
unit. (2) $ 19,880.00 EXCHANGE + $ 9,500.00 core charge. Both prices of
course do not include freight and taxes. Both quotes had extended lead
times.
It is my understanding that the MR. RPM conversions used turbocharger bleed
air instead of a cabin supercharger, which would unfortunately rule out
Mason's old plane (N70QT) and the plane that Bill references in Australia.
Photos of N55GL (derelict in Berry Hill, GA) show it to not have an air
scoop on the top which leads me to believe that it is a 680F
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| Subject: | SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER |
Let me know if you get the contact info. I would be interested in some parts
as well. I think his son lives in the Carolina's
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From: Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 16:46:06 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Hi Bill,
I think that Morris went down and helped Harry's son "sort out the stuff".
I was going to buy a couple of wheels and some other spares from them. If
Morris or someone has Harry's sons contact info., could they please advise.
I may be down there before too long.
When this problem begain to develop, Morris was my first call, however, he
doesn't have anything.
Thanx much!
Moe
N680RR
From: BillLeff1@aol.com
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Herry Merritt had motors and a complete 680FP when he pass away. I stopped
by this summer and his hangar was cleaned out. I was told that his son moved
it all if you can track him down
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From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:53:39 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: Commander-List: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER
Hi Moe,
N55GL is definitely a 680F(P).
I have qui
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Bill,
It would probably be worth contacting General Aviation Maintenance Pty
Ltd, Ph: + 61 3 9379 1019. Fax: +61 3 9374 2620 ..., to see what they
have. Being a long way from anywhere, spares holding down here tend to
be larger than the average MRO in US or Canada. You never know your
luck. They might even have a line on alternative bearings that you are
looking for.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 12:59 PM
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| Subject: | Re: SALVAGE OR DERALICT COMMANDER |
I fly into Corona all the time to fuel up and have taxied by that Commander many
times. Didn't know it was an FP. I'll try to find out more next time I'm in.
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| Subject: | Re: SALVAGE OR DERELICT COMMANDER |
Moe, could you not get a similar bearing from other manufacturer and just have
a DER or a DAR sign it off as field mod? Seems like an awful lot of money to replace
a whole unit just because the bearing can't be found...
Is there no STC to convert the supercharger to something a bit cheaper? Something
similar to the Peter Schiff CCU units for the 690?
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