---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/11/12: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:31 AM - Re: Thoughts on keeping an old 520 flying... (stratobee) 2. 08:00 AM - Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 (Moe Mills) 3. 08:25 AM - Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 (n395v) 4. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: Thoughts on keeping an old 520 flying... (yourtcfg@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:25 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Thoughts on keeping an old 520 flying... From: "stratobee" It looks like the old girl will see another day. It was touch and go. I had a bit of luck in that I have the newer V style hubs and not the unserviceable X hubs. So the prop AD inspection should be achievable. Now, if they fail, then that might be another matter.. I've also seem to have come across two newly O/H GO'435's for a good price, and will try to get my hands on those for future upgrade. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend fly-in, but hopefully next year. -------- Adam Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382864#382864 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:37 AM PST US From: Moe Mills Subject: RE: Commander-List: Cessna 414/421 v 685 Zac=2C Although I have no personal experience with the 685 after noting you r runway length it might be a good idea to check the takeoff performance of the 685. Regards=2C Moe MillsN680RR680F(p) From: transam403@hotmail.com Subject: Commander-List: Cessna 414/421 v 685 So we are still on the hunt as our 421 that we put an offer on got swept aw ay by Hurricane Isaac (long story). After my previous question on the e-ma il list about the 680FP (thank you everyone who responded)=2C I don't think the 680 will be the plane for us. However=2C I have been looking at the 6 85 pretty closely and was wondering if anyone had any direct operating expe rience between the 421s and the 685s. I know the 685 will have the SB rega rding the aft pressure vessel bulkhead in the near future=2C but was wonder ing about operational cost and performance figures for the two. Keep in mi nd that we will be operating out of a 3700ft strip (at 550MSL)=2C so short field operations are a key component as well (although we won't ever be hea vy). Thanks in advance! Zac Armstrong ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:32 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 From: "n395v" I owned and operated a 685 for several years. My hangar mate had a 421 >From a cost standpoint there was no significant difference. I would however ech Moe's opinion about take off distance. The 685 is not a short field airplane. Not sure how takeoff distance compares with the 421 but the 685 is superior in every other respect. A lot of 685 operators who complained of poor TO performance were always operating well over Gross at takeoff. If I remember correctly it will hold ove 1800 pounds of fuel. Full tanks are seldom necessary for most flights. Average fuel burn was 48 GPH and cruise was 205KTS TAS consistently. The GTSO 520Ks will probably need top overhuals at 900 hrs. The bottom end of the engines should meet or exceed TBO if treated properly. Lots of old wives tails about the 685s most of them untrue. We have at least 2 685 check pilots on the list who can give you further guidance. -------- Milt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382879#382879 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:27 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Thoughts on keeping an old 520 flying... From: yourtcfg@aol.com Glad things are looking up Adam. The boys from Australia said to tell you that if they can come half-way around the world to be at the event that you could come a few miles to attend!! Seriously, we would love to see you an d know you would have a good time with everyone and learn more about Comman ders. -----Original Message----- From: stratobee Sent: Tue, Sep 11, 2012 6:31 am Subject: Commander-List: Re: Thoughts on keeping an old 520 flying... It looks like the old girl will see another day. It was touch and go. I had a bit of luck in that I have the newer V style hubs and not the unserviceable X hubs. So the prop AD inspection should be achievable. Now, if they fail, then that might be another matter.. I've also seem to have come across two newly O/H GO'435's for a good price, and will try to get my hand s on those for future upgrade. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend fly-i n, but hopefully next year. -------- Adam Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382864#382864 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.