---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/15/12: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:55 AM - Re: Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 (Paul Gendron) 2. 06:29 PM - Re: Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 (Moe Mills) 3. 06:56 PM - Re: Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 (Paul Gendron) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 From: Paul Gendron Hi All. I'm UNFORTUNATLEY parting out a 685 If anyone need a spare anything? Give me a call 954-547-3002 Paul RPMCommander@gmail.com On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:25 AM, n395v wrote: > > > > I owned and operated a 685 for several years. My hangar mate had a 421 > >From a cost standpoint there was no significant difference. > I would however ech Moe's opinion about take off distance. The 685 is not > a short field airplane. Not sure how takeoff distance compares with the 421 > but the 685 is superior in every other respect. > > A lot of 685 operators who complained of poor TO performance were always > operating well over Gross at takeoff. > > If I remember correctly it will hold ove 1800 pounds of fuel. Full tanks > are seldom necessary for most flights. > > Average fuel burn was 48 GPH and cruise was 205KTS TAS consistently. > > The GTSO 520Ks will probably need top overhuals at 900 hrs. The bottom end > of the engines should meet or exceed TBO if treated properly. > > Lots of old wives tails about the 685s most of them untrue. > > We have at least 2 685 check pilots on the list who can give you further > guidance. > > -------- > Milt > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382879#382879 > > -- Thank You Paul Gendron for www.RPMCommander.com LLC 954-547-3002 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:29 PM PST US From: Moe Mills Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 Hi Paul=2C Is your 685 pressurized? Moe Date: Sat=2C 15 Sep 2012 05:54:21 -0400 Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 From: rpmcommander@GMAIL.COM Hi All. I'm UNFORTUNATLEY parting out a 685 If anyone need a spare anything ? Give me a call 954-547-3002 Paul RPMCommander@gmail.com On Tue=2C Sep 11=2C 2012 at 11:25 AM=2C n395v wrote: I owned and operated a 685 for several years. My hangar mate had a 421 >From a cost standpoint there was no significant difference. I would however ech Moe's opinion about take off distance. The 685 is not a short field airplane. Not sure how takeoff distance compares with the 421 but the 685 is superior in every other respect. A lot of 685 operators who complained of poor TO performance were always op erating well over Gross at takeoff. If I remember correctly it will hold ove 1800 pounds of fuel. Full tanks ar e seldom necessary for most flights. Average fuel burn was 48 GPH and cruise was 205KTS TAS consistently. The GTSO 520Ks will probably need top overhuals at 900 hrs. The bottom end of the engines should meet or exceed TBO if treated properly. Lots of old wives tails about the 685s most of them untrue. We have at least 2 685 check pilots on the list who can give you further gu idance. -------- Milt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382879#382879 st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com le=2C List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Thank You Paul Gendron for www.RPMCommander.com LLC 954-547-3002 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:40 PM PST US Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 From: Paul Gendron N, it had a camera window On Sep 15, 2012 9:30 PM, "Moe Mills" wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Is your 685 pressurized? > > Moe > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 05:54:21 -0400 > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Cessna 414/421 v 685 > From: rpmcommander@GMAIL.COM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Hi All. > I'm UNFORTUNATLEY parting out a 685 > If anyone need a spare anything? > Give me a call 954-547-3002 Paul > RPMCommander@gmail.com > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:25 AM, n395v wrote: > > > > > I owned and operated a 685 for several years. My hangar mate had a 421 > >From a cost standpoint there was no significant difference. > I would however ech Moe's opinion about take off distance. The 685 is not > a short field airplane. Not sure how takeoff distance compares with the 421 > but the 685 is superior in every other respect. > > A lot of 685 operators who complained of poor TO performance were always > operating well over Gross at takeoff. > > If I remember correctly it will hold ove 1800 pounds of fuel. Full tanks > are seldom necessary for most flights. > > Average fuel burn was 48 GPH and cruise was 205KTS TAS consistently. > > The GTSO 520Ks will probably need top overhuals at 900 hrs. The bottom end > of the engines should meet or exceed TBO if treated properly. > > Lots of old wives tails about the 685s most of them untrue. > > We have at least 2 685 check pilots on the list who can give you further > guidance. > > -------- > Milt > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=382879#382879 > > > ========== > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > -- > Thank You > > Paul Gendron for > www.RPMCommander.com LLC > 954-547-3002 > > > * > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > * > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.