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1. 05:26 PM - Can we talk 685's? (stratobee)
2. 06:09 PM - Re: Can we talk 685's? (CloudCraft / K.S.Gordon)
3. 07:13 PM - Re: Can we talk 685's? (stratobee)
4. 08:08 PM - TCFG website (nico van niekerk)
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Subject: | Can we talk 685's? |
I'd like some more meat on the 685 and/or the 680FPL. I know all the usual stuff
- how it needs a lot of rwy fully loaded, how the engines will ruin you etc,
etc.
But what I would like to know more about is real world operation etc:
1.What's the certified ceiling?
2. What can you expect the burn at 20K plus and 55%, 45%, TAS?
3. Do they all come with 322gal tanks or is that an add on?
4. Are cylinders etc plentiful and easy to get hold of?
5. How terrible is the Skydrol system? Does it run the pressurisation as well?
6. Any significant AD's?
7. They seem to have come with a few different engines ranging from 390hp to 450hp
- any particular one to avoid?
8. What is the difference between the 685 and the 680FPL?
Any experiences greatly appreciated.
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Adam
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Subject: | Re: Can we talk 685's? |
Thanks Keith - look forward to it.
The reason I have an interest is of course firstly that it's a Commander, but secondly
because I have this obsession with long range. And 322 gals - if one could
pull back and get somewhere around 30gals total up high - would be very interesting.
I'm guessing, but that should possibly give more than 1500nm range,
maybe even more.
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Adam
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The site looks really good, guys. Let me know when it's in final stage, I'd
like to promote it on the facebook page. Hundreds of brochures, pamphlets
and other old marketing material has been uploaded onto the facebook page,
which really belongs to the TCFG. I have them on DVD, too and if it will
help I can make them available on my FTP server.
Let me know if I can be of help in any way.
Thanks,
Nico
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