---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/15/13: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:45 PM - Re: 685 vs. Aerostar (cannuck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:19 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: 685 vs. Aerostar From: "cannuck" I a no Commander expert, but my travel for the last 20 years has been restricted because I had to haul too much equipment to fly (not pounds too much, TONS). I did my personal travel in a Tiger that I nearly wore out, and had a 3NM (C-45 to you South of 49) that we operated commercially in the bush. I have been agonizing over exactly the same consideration. I find that a commander with its spar done comes pretty close to the price of a good aerostar. A commander with a pair of IO-720s has an engine cost not much different from a U2A converted Superstar. and so on it goes. The ultimate difference is that a 601P or 602P can be brought up to the very latest in state of the art improvements - with an airframe and mod cost with zero time engines of $800k+. I don't know what a Grand Rennaisance Commander would run, but I expect just a little bit less. If you buy something at the lower end of the price spectrum, you ARE going to have maintenance costs that will move you somewhere up the ladder over time. So you pick your point in that range with EITHER airplane, sort of a wash. Unless you are carrying a lot of people, my feeling is now that the Aerostar offers so much better speed (particularly with Superstars) and economy, it is pretty much a given for one to three pax. (I had considered carrying more, but we have since backed off that a bit). IF you are going to do rough field, no question you want the Commander. I have seen a few Shrikes operating in the North, and they work really well on partially improved fields. Like Commanders, there seem to be a lot for sale, the price keeps going down, and it is easy to find one with known ice, 5 psi pressurization, and good engine times with decent avionics - FAR below replacement costs. Perfect time to have this problem. -------- AA1 and AA5B former (future?) owner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396347#396347 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.