---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/02/13: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:01 AM - Re: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps (Peter Bichier) 2. 12:33 PM - Re: Re: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps (BertBerry1@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:25 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps From: "Peter Bichier" Andy, Thank you for sharing such a poignant piece of history, I have indeed read all your posts and would gladly read more. Have you considered writing the full story on a short book, booklet or blog? I see you have one, but I saw bits and pieces but not an entire story put together. For example I still can't figure out if the hijacker survived or not (it seems that on one of the TV news they were saying he had survived; but you also mentioned he shot himself). Anyways, my point is that may be the story could start taking off on its own as a book, best seller of sort and then it could be further developed as a documentary. Sorry for your terrible loss and best regards to your family and you have our support in any ways we can. If in your research or travel you have to stay close to SFO, let us know, we will gladly take care of you in Santa Cruz (only 1 hr south). As far as 681 pictures you have to query "Aero Commander" or "Twin Commander" or "Aerocommander" "Rockwell Commander" several picture sites and pick up the 680V, 681, Turbo Commander, 690. I would look in: For ex at www.airliners.net: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aero-Commander-680V/2041310/L/&sid=55279c8a31cac83a3593e2e55a51dbd6 Check also: http://jetphotos.net http://www.planepictures.net http://www.airplane-pictures.net http://www.airteamimages.com Good luck, Sincerely, Peter Bichier ----- Reply message ----- From: "andy downs" Subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps Tom & the Commander Group, I appreciate the time you took in checking out the link http://igg.me/at/58November/x/1678943 (http://igg.me/at/58November/x/1678943) . I do understand your concerns on ads. You all do have my word that will not happen again. I do hope you will all look at the site and help us make the 58 November project a reality. No one person can make anything happen in life. This is no different. As they said in the movie The Right Stuff, "No Bucks, No Buck Rogers" This is a YouTube video of my father trying to negotiate with the FBI agents in Jacksonville just before their raid was executed. These are the actual ATC tapes and some of my father's last known words. You will see a picture of my father's 681 Turbo Commander on the screen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mySNO2IKyQs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mySNO2IKyQs) If any of you know where a 681 Turbo Commander is located these days I would love to contact the owner. My father's Commander (N-9058N) is now in the Broward County Community College being used as a maintenance plane for future A&P's If any of you can help please contact me. I do appreciate your concerns and your support Thanks, Andy Downs 615-474-0590 Andy@58November.com (Andy@58November.com) http://58November.com (http://58November.com/) -------- 560 Dreamer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397621#397621 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:14 PM PST US From: BertBerry1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps Here is a couple photos of 58N: taken Sept 1993 http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1193588/ http://www.airliners.net/photo/1002493/ In a message dated 4/2/2013 2:15:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, yvabe560@gmail.com writes: --> Commander-List message posted by: "Peter Bichier" Andy, Thank you for sharing such a poignant piece of history, I have indeed read all your posts and would gladly read more. Have you considered writing the full story on a short book, booklet or blog? I see you have one, but I saw bits and pieces but not an entire story put together. For example I still can't figure out if the hijacker survived or not (it seems that on one of the TV news they were saying he had survived; but you also mentioned he shot himself). Anyways, my point is that may be the story could start taking off on its own as a book, best seller of sort and then it could be further developed as a documentary. Sorry for your terrible loss and best regards to your family and you have our support in any ways we can. If in your research or travel you have to stay close to SFO, let us know, we will gladly take care of you in Santa Cruz (only 1 hr south). As far as 681 pictures you have to query "Aero Commander" or "Twin Commander" or "Aerocommander" "Rockwell Commander" several picture sites and pick up the 680V, 681, Turbo Commander, 690. I would look in: For ex at www.airliners.net: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aero-Commander-680V/2041310/L/&sid=55279c8a31 cac83a3593e2e55a51dbd6 Check also: http://jetphotos.net http://www.planepictures.net http://www.airplane-pictures.net http://www.airteamimages.com Good luck, Sincerely, Peter Bichier ----- Reply message ----- From: "andy downs" Subject: Commander 58 November Pilot Ball Caps Tom & the Commander Group, I appreciate the time you took in checking out the link http://igg.me/at/58November/x/1678943 (http://igg.me/at/58November/x/1678943) . I do understand your concerns on ads. You all do have my word that will not happen again. I do hope you will all look at the site and help us make the 58 November project a reality. No one person can make anything happen in life. This is no different. As they said in the movie The Right Stuff, "No Bucks, No Buck Rogers" This is a YouTube video of my father trying to negotiate with the FBI agents in Jacksonville just before their raid was executed. These are the actual ATC tapes and some of my father's last known words. You will see a picture of my father's 681 Turbo Commander on the screen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mySNO2IKyQs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mySNO2IKyQs) If any of you know where a 681 Turbo Commander is located these days I would love to contact the owner. My father's Commander (N-9058N) is now in the Broward County Community College being used as a maintenance plane for future A&P's If any of you can help please contact me. I do appreciate your concerns and your support Thanks, Andy Downs 615-474-0590 Andy@58November.com (Andy@58November.com) http://58November.com (http://58November.com/) -------- 560 Dreamer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397621#397621 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.