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0. 12:39 AM - Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]... (Matt Dralle)
1. 07:51 AM - Re: 500B (nicoCSS)
2. 09:06 AM - Re: 500B (Donnie Rose)
3. 09:09 AM - Re: 500B (Donnie Rose)
4. 09:12 AM - 500B (Donnie Rose)
5. 10:11 AM - Re: 500B (Tylor Hall)
6. 10:52 AM - Re: 500B ()
7. 11:57 AM - Re: 500B (Donnie)
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| Subject: | Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]... |
[Dear Listers, last week, Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric fame, posted a very
nice message discussing the Lists and Forums at Matronics. It is a very insightful
piece and I asked Bob if I could forward it to the rest of the Lists for
the other members to enjoy and contemplate as well. He gladly agreed, and so
below I have included the text from that message. Enjoy. -Matt Dralle, Matronics
Email List and Forum Administrator]
"As most of you know, Matt's ISP was fiddling with some crucial
details for the exchange of data on the 'net a few weeks ago.
The Lists, Matt's business site, and AeroElectric.com got really
flakey. . . I was 'unhooked' from the List and all of three of
my e-mail services for several days. Out of business and out
of touch.
After two days, I was beginning to worry. I had no idea as
to root cause nor was there a time table for resolution . . .
I began to mull over plan-B options. Of course, plan-B
would have entailed seeking a new home for aeroelectric.com and
ancillary services. NOT a quick, inexpensive or happy thing to
contemplate.
The time talents and resources that go into fabrication and
maintenance of some of the 'simplest' features of our lives often
go unnoticed . . . not because they're unappreciated . . . but simply
because we're unaware of their significance.
I will invite you all to read an essay by one Leonard Read written
in 1958 titled "I pencil". See:
http://tinyurl.com/me3q3hj
It's a fascinating and well crafted peek into a society of
unacquainted, self-interested individuals who exploited
uncountable windows of opportunity for what has
been called "spontaneous order" in the manufacture and sales
of the simple wood pencil. The point of citing Mr. Read's
essay is to examine two features of the human experience that
contribute to the success of this List and our various interests
in airplanes.
The first point I'd like to make is that we cannot know
the millions of individuals who contributed to the materials
and infrastructure that make this List possible. We sit at the
top of a pyramid of work-product derived from the time,
talents and resources of millions of people who we'll never
know.
Another feature I'd like to emphasis is our ignorance
of the criticality for any single component for a host
of materials and components for the manufacture and
sales of a simple pencil or an affordable airplane. Suppose
any one of the materials or processes described in Read's
essay were simply unavailable. How would that impact
the price of a pencil? Would the pencil even continue to
exist at it's new price? The really big question is, "How
might some seemingly small loss ripple throughout the
economy of our existence?"
The time, talent and resources that support infrastructure
for this List, my website, Matt's website, and our e-mails
cannot be accurately known. That infrastructure stands
on an exceedingly complex array of activities that arose
from the ingenuity and spontaneous organization of free-
market enterprises. But from our perch at the top of
this pyramid we need only look down a few layers and see that
this resource upon which we depend is vulnerable. There are
risks we all assume . . . Matt could get t-boned in an
intersection tomorrow. Lightning could strike the pole behind
his facility and do catastrophic damage to the hardware.
Yours truly could take a deer through the windshield on
his way to Wichita some morning.
Other risks are less catastrophic. They include things
like amateurish behaviors by maintainers of the Internet
highway's potholes. Perhaps some material critical to
the manufacture of terabyte hard drives dries up. Or
maybe the cost of keeping the lights on and the bytes
herded become more than Matt can justify given his personal
needs for existence.
Several times a year I get an opportunity to
plant new seeds of thought in the minds of fellow citizens.
One of my favorites is to be standing in a long line
at Panera's waiting to purchase a bagel and coffee and
hear somebody in line complaining about the
wait. I suggest to them that to wait in line for a
much desired product is a GOOD thing. Not having
to wait is a BAD thing if there is not enough business
to encourage them to be open tomorrow.
It goes without saying that few, if any of us, possess the
talents, resources or motivation to step up and do what
Matt does. At last count, there were about 1600 individuals
who subscribe to this List [Aeroelectric-List]. . .
certainly many more make up the population of subscribers
to all of the Lists on Matronics.
A few years back, Matt was besieged by legal trials
and tribulations over the naming of his products . . .
seems somebody claimed ownership of the words 'scan'
and/or 'scanner' . . . We here on the AeroElectric-List
perceived a risk to Matt's operations and came up with
several thousands of dollars to contribute to his defense
fund. We need make no greater 'investment' in Matt's
operations now than it takes to stand in a line for
a Quarter-Pounder Combo . . . or a fist full of pencils.
You and I can have no more positive influence over the
manufacture of pencils and hard drives than to continue
to purchase such things and encourage those with the
time, talent and resources to continue doing what they
do best.
Let's contribute to the comfortable maintenance of this
service which is probably more valuable than we know.
Just a little bit from thousands of us on the Matronics
Lists can make a big difference.
Bob . . ."
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Donnie,
I wasn't aware that the 500B has a 1,600 TBO on it. Are those continentals?
nico
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B
Donnie,
I have a suggestion. You may want to put your phone number in your email
and the Price?
Does the Century III have the GPSS steering adapter on it to do a GPS
approach? Is one available?
Tylor Hall
tylorhall@mac.com
ACN IBO Member
401 Monte Alto PL NE
Albuquerque, NM 87123
505-247-3001
505-400-8373 Cell
tylorhall.acndirect.com
For anyone interested, she is Ready to sell....
69PT is in her last days of annual and has a fresh {0 hr} pitot / static
inspection, all new batteries and Jimmy Gather just finished both props!
So if you know of anyone your help would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Donnie Rose
<Scan_Doc0001.pdf>
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Nico, there are IO540-B1A5's with a 1600 hr TBO=0A-=0ADonnie Rose=0A205-4
92-8444=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:50 AM, nicoCSS <nico@cyb
ersuperstore.com> wrote:=0A =0ADonnie,=0AI wasn't aware that the 500B has
a 1,600 TBO on it. Are those continentals?=0Anico=0A-=0A-=0AFrom:owner-
commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall=0ASent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:20
PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: 500B
=0A-=0ADonnie,=0AI have a suggestion. -You may want to put your phone n
umber in your email and the Price?=0A-=0ADoes the Century III have the GP
SS steering adapter on it to do a GPS approach? -Is one available?=0A-
=0ATylor Hall=0Atylorhall@mac.com=0AACN IBO Member=0A401 Monte Alto PL NE
=0AAlbuquerque, NM 87123=0A505-247-3001=0A505-400-8373 Cell=0Atylorhall.acn
direct.com=0A-=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0AFor anyone interested, she is
Ready to sell....=0A>69PT is in her last days of annual and has a fresh {0
hr} pitot / static inspection, all new batteries and Jimmy Gather just fin
ished both props!=0A>So if you know of anyone your help would be greatly ap
preciated.=0A>Best regards,=0A>Donnie Rose=0A>-=0A<Scan_Doc0001.pdf>=0A
-=0A-=0A-=0Awww.aeroelectric.com=0Awww.buildersbooks.com=0Awww.homebu
ilthelp.com www.mypilotstore.com=0Awww.mrrace.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.co
m/contribution=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List=0Ahttp:/
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Hi Tylor, the Century III has benn completely overhauled, grabs the glide s
lope every time and there is a GPSS kit available. I'll take 185k which is
20k less than I have in her.=0Athanks,=0A-=0ADonnie Rose=0A205-492-8444
=0A=0A=0A=0AOn , Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A =0ANico, th
ere are IO540-B1A5's with a 1600 hr TBO=0A-=0ADonnie Rose=0A205-492-8444
=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:50 AM, nicoCSS <nico@cybersuper
store.com> wrote:=0A =0ADonnie,=0AI wasn't aware that the 500B has a 1,600
TBO on it. Are those continentals?=0Anico=0A-=0A-=0AFrom:owner-command
er-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.
com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall=0ASent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:20 PM=0ATo
: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: 500B=0A-=0A
Donnie,=0AI have a suggestion. -You may want to put your phone number in
your email and the Price?=0A-=0ADoes the Century III have the GPSS steeri
ng adapter on it to do a GPS approach? -Is one available?=0A-=0ATylor H
all=0Atylorhall@mac.com=0AACN IBO Member=0A401 Monte Alto PL NE=0AAlbuquerq
ue, NM 87123=0A505-247-3001=0A505-400-8373 Cell=0Atylorhall.acndirect.com
=0A-=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0AFor anyone interested, she is Ready to
sell....=0A>69PT is in her last days of annual and has a fresh {0 hr} pitot
/ static inspection, all new batteries and Jimmy Gather just finished both
props!=0A>So if you know of anyone your help would be greatly appreciated.
=0A>Best regards,=0A>Donnie Rose=0A>-=0A<Scan_Doc0001.pdf>=0A-=0A-=0A
-=0Awww.aeroelectric.com=0Awww.buildersbooks.com=0Awww.homebuilthelp.com
www.mypilotstore.com=0Awww.mrrace.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contributi
on=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List=0Ahttp://forums.matr
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A correction to my specs on 69PT, the annual will be completed this Dec. 1s
t, 2013.=0Athanks,=0A-=0ADonnie Rose=0A205-492-8444
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Donnie,
Thank you. =46rom the photos I have, it looks like you have full deice
on 69PT?
Does it have something for the windshield? That is a important thing
for me.
Nico, 1600 TBO is standard for the Lyc IO-540. John Towner gets about
1800 to 2000 hours under his Part 135 operation.
I talk to one of his Mechanics and he said the 2000 hour engine is as
far as they want to push it on overhaul.
They put about 600 hours per airplane per year.
Tylor Hall
On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A correction to my specs on 69PT, the annual will be completed this
Dec. 1st, 2013.
> thanks,
>
> Donnie Rose
> 205-492-8444
>
>
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Thanks, Tylor.
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B
Donnie,
Thank you. From the photos I have, it looks like you have full deice on
69PT?
Does it have something for the windshield? That is a important thing for
me.
Nico, 1600 TBO is standard for the Lyc IO-540. John Towner gets about 1800
to 2000 hours under his Part 135 operation.
I talk to one of his Mechanics and he said the 2000 hour engine is as far as
they want to push it on overhaul.
They put about 600 hours per airplane per year.
Tylor Hall
On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com> wrote:
A correction to my specs on 69PT, the annual will be completed this Dec.
1st, 2013.
thanks,
Donnie Rose
205-492-8444
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Yes Tylor it has full defrost working off the stainless Janitrol heater and I
've flown ice and it works great!
Otherwise you are correct it does have full deice. Out of all the Commanders
I've flown she is the sweetest and smoothest!
Don
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:52 PM, <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Tylor.
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tylor Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:11 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500B
>
> Donnie,
> Thank you. =46rom the photos I have, it looks like you have full deice on
69PT?
> Does it have something for the windshield? That is a important thing for m
e.
>
> Nico, 1600 TBO is standard for the Lyc IO-540. John Towner gets about 180
0 to 2000 hours under his Part 135 operation.
> I talk to one of his Mechanics and he said the 2000 hour engine is as far a
s they want to push it on overhaul.
> They put about 600 hours per airplane per year.
>
> Tylor Hall
>
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> A correction to my specs on 69PT, the annual will be completed this Dec. 1
st, 2013.
> thanks,
>
> Donnie Rose
> 205-492-8444
>
>
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