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1. 04:45 AM - Re: AC560A at KIGM (Barry Collman)
2. 12:05 PM - Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! (Steele, Bob)
3. 12:43 PM - Re: Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! (Levan Tabidze)
4. 12:48 PM - Re: Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! (BobsV35B@aol.com)
5. 01:02 PM - Re: Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! (sr14572@yahoo.com)
6. 02:06 PM - Re: Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! (Andrew & Bridget Watson)
7. 02:34 PM - Re: AC90/95 single pilot operation (Sub22)
8. 05:12 PM - Re: Need parts for 680F (Sub22)
9. 05:27 PM - Re: 680FLP (Sub22)
10. 05:38 PM - Re: 680-FL(P) (Sub22)
11. 05:42 PM - Re: 680-FL(P) (Sub22)
12. 05:50 PM - Re: Rare Placard (Sub22)
13. 08:13 PM - Re: 680-FL(P) (stratobee)
14. 10:38 PM - Re: 680FLP (RPMCommander)
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Hi Keith,
Thanks for the extra shot of N2775B.
Not pristine condition, but at least the tires have been inflated!
Don=99t you mean that I should be driving a Rolls-Royce or
Bentley?
I would, of course, but neither fits in the garage.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
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Sent: 09 February 2014 21:51
Subject: RE: Commander-List: AC560A at KIGM
Barry,
N2775B may be out of the weeds but she's not in any better condition,
sadly.
Shouldn't you be driving an MG or Jaguar?
Keith S. Gordon
on the fly
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From: Barry Collman
Date:09/02/2014 06:32 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: RE: Commander-List: AC560A at KIGM
Hello Keith,
Grateful thanks for sending the shots taken at Kingman.
The 560A, N2775B, was there when I visited Kingman on September 25th
1995, but it was parked in a different place (see attached).
When I enquired at the FBO office, I was told it had been sat there for
a number of years, the owners having had a dispute.
There was a couple in the office as well and I overheard the lady saying
to her husband =9CI think he=99s from England. Do you think
he knows George?=9D
By a strange quirk of fate, I do know George. He=99s my car
mechanic and always sorts out any problems.
Don=99t see him that much though, as I=99ve got a BMW ;-)
Very Best Regards,
Barry
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Sent: 09 February 2014 03:47
Subject: Commander-List: AC560A at KIGM
Sir Barry and Group,
Was at Kingman, Arizona KIGM last week. Spotted two specimens. Will
upload the AC500 separately.
Keith S. Gordon
on the fly
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Subject: | Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! |
Subject: FW: Fwd:Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!!
The most amazing airplane in History....For the Airplane Buffs
Built in Russia during the 1930s, it flew 11 times before crashing and
killing 15 people.
The designer, Konstantin Kalinin, wanted to build two more planes but
the project was scrapped.
Later, Stalin had Kalinin executed.
Evidently, it was not good to fail on an expensive project under Stalin
.
It's got propellers on the back of the wings, too. You can count 12
engines facing front.
The size would be equivalent to the Empire State Building on its side,
with cannons.
And you think the 747 was big... not only a bunch of engines but check
out the cannons the plane was carrying.
In the 1930s the Russian army was obsessed by the idea of creating huge
planes.
At that time they were proposed to have as many propellers as possible
to help carrying those huge flying fortresses into the air, jet
propulsion has not been implemented yet.
Not many photos were saved from those times because of the high secrecy
levels of such projects and because a lot of time has already passed.
Still, on the attached photos you can see one such plane - a heavy
bomber K-7.
Can you imagine what it would be like sitting in this plane when those
cannons go off?
Looks like something out of a Jules Verne novel.
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Subject: | Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! |
Well,
Very well done computer rendering.
And here is some more fanciful that depict the $B!H(Jimaginary K7$B!I(J in a close
encounter with an even more outlandish aircraft:
There was a real K-7 thou. It was not quite as large as on this rendering, and
yes, it unfortunately crashed during test flight.
Article about real K-7:
http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/aircraft/Kalinin-K7.html
Levan Tabidze
Engineering Manager
Twin Commander Aircraft, LLC.
1176 Telecom Drive, Creedmoor, NC 27522-8294
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From: Steele, Bob [mailto:Bob.Steele@kzf.com]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 3:05 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!!
Subject: FW: Fwd:Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!!
The most amazing airplane in History....For the Airplane Buffs
Built in Russia during the 1930s, it flew 11 times before crashing and killing
15 people.
The designer, Konstantin Kalinin, wanted to build two more planes but the project
was scrapped.
Later, Stalin had Kalinin executed.
Evidently, it was not good to fail on an expensive project under Stalin .
It's got propellers on the back of the wings, too. You can count 12 engines facing
front.
The size would be equivalent to the Empire State Building on its side, with
cannons.
And you think the 747 was big... not only a bunch of engines but check out the
cannons the plane was carrying.
In the 1930s the Russian army was obsessed by the idea of creating huge planes.
At that time they were proposed to have as many propellers as possible to help
carrying those huge flying fortresses into the air, jet propulsion has not been
implemented yet.
Not many photos were saved from those times because of the high secrecy levels
of such projects and because a lot of time has already passed.
Still, on the attached photos you can see one such plane - a heavy bomber K-7.
Can you imagine what it would be like sitting in this plane when those cannons
go off?
Looks like something out of a Jules Verne novel.
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Subject: | Re: Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! |
Good Afternoon Bob,
I have seen other reports on this airplane, some of which claimed that no
flights were made with all of the engines shown installed. It was also said
that all of the armament was only for ground photos. Never flew when so
equipped. Still a pretty amazing machine!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Downers Grove, IL
Stearman N3977A
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Subject: FW: Fwd:Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!!
The most amazing airplane in History....For the Airplane Buffs
Built in Russia during the 1930s, it flew 11 times before crashing and
killing 15 people.
The designer, Konstantin Kalinin, wanted to build two more planes but
the project was scrapped.
Later, Stalin had Kalinin executed.
Evidently, it was not good to fail on an expensive project under Stalin
.
It's got propellers on the back of the wings, too. You can count 12
engines facing front.
The size would be equivalent to the Empire State Building on its side,
with cannons.
And you think the 747 was big... not only a bunch of engines but check
out the cannons the plane was carrying.
In the 1930s the Russian army was obsessed by the idea of creating huge
planes.
At that time they were proposed to have as many propellers as possible to
help carrying those huge flying fortresses into the air, jet propulsion
has not been implemented yet.
Not many photos were saved from those times because of the high secrecy
levels of such projects and because a lot of time has already passed.
Still, on the attached photos you can see one such plane - a heavy
bomber K-7.
Can you imagine what it would be like sitting in this plane when those
cannons go off?
Looks like something out of a Jules Verne novel.
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Subject: | Re: Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! |
I think this is something related to someones imagination. -I think its p
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Airplane Buffs=0A-=0A=0A=0ABuilt in Russia during the 1930s, it flew 11
times before crashing and killing 15 people.=0A=0AThe designer,- Konstant
in Kalinin, wanted to build two more=0A planes but the project w
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Subject: | Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!! |
sr14572.
The K7 was indeed a real aircraft. I remember reading about it when I was a
kid. Here is the designer's info on Wikipedia, with references to his
aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Kalinin
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I think this is something related to someones imagination. I think its
photoshopped.
_____
From: "Steele, Bob" <Bob.Steele@kzf.com>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 3:05 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!!
Subject: FW: Fwd:Most Amazing War-Plane In History !!!
The most amazing airplane in History....For the Airplane Buffs
Built in Russia during the 1930s, it flew 11 times before crashing and
killing 15 people.
The designer, Konstantin Kalinin, wanted to build two more planes but the
project was scrapped.
Later, Stalin had Kalinin executed.
Evidently, it was not good to fail on an expensive project under Stalin .
It's got propellers on the back of the wings, too. You can count 12 engines
facing front.
The size would be equivalent to the Empire State Building on its side,
with cannons.
And you think the 747 was big... not only a bunch of engines but check out
the cannons the plane was carrying.
In the 1930s the Russian army was obsessed by the idea of creating huge
planes.
At that time they were proposed to have as many propellers as possible to
help carrying those huge flying fortresses into the air, jet propulsion has
not been implemented yet.
Not many photos were saved from those times because of the high secrecy
levels of such projects and because a lot of time has already passed.
Still, on the attached photos you can see one such plane - a heavy bomber
K-7.
Can you imagine what it would be like sitting in this plane when those
cannons go off?
Looks like something out of a Jules Verne novel.
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Subject: | Re: AC90/95 single pilot operation |
Are you flying passengers or cargo?
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Subject: | Re: Need parts for 680F |
Contact suburban air freight Omaha, NE They were the leading AC680 experts in the
80's and 90's. They no longer operate the Commanders but, might be able to
point you in the right direction.
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Try slow fighting, nose up. Then try heater ignition. It's worked for me a few
times. -30F
Does it fire up in warm air?
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There is a corrosion issue for the spar. X-Ray or a visual inspection can allow
for an approval. My company did a picture analysis that allowed us to continue
flying.
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There is a corrosion issue for the spar. X-Ray or a visual inspection can allow
for an approval. My company did a picture analysis that allowed us to continue
flying.
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JS Bennett
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Subject: | Re: Rare Placard |
It was Chicago ORD
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If it can't be modified, could you not change to N-reg and at least get it flown
out of there and sold elsewhere?
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turns out it had alot to do with the airconditioner that was mysteriously removed.
Thats all I will say.
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