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1. 05:13 PM - commander annuals (joel carter)
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3. 08:53 PM - Re: commander annuals (Don Falik)
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| Subject: | commander annuals |
I'm a commander enthusiast looking for answers.
1) What would be a ballpark cost for a typical no squawk or low squawk annual
on a well maintained straight 500 in $ and hours?
2) I read somewhere that to avoid hydraulic problems all hoses, fittings, etc should
be replaced every 10 years at a cost of $10k. True?
3) How much of a problem have those spar cap AD's been? It seems commanders are
disappearing from the registry. Any relation to concerns about the wing?
That's all for now. Thanks,
Joel
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| Subject: | Re: commander annuals |
1. My last 2 annuals on my 500S (1970 model) were $21,000.00 and $14,000.00 and
that was I the 3rd. and 4th. year of my well cared for ownership.
2. It is recommended to change the hydraulic hoses every 5 years. I would expect
the cost to be $5000.00-7,000.00 based on the cost the last time I did min
which was about 5 years ago.
3. On my 500S the spar cap AD was more of a nuisance and cost penalty. The cost
is having to dismantle the interior ceiling to gain access to the spar. Then
you have to find someone certified to do the procedure which doesn't take much
time.
I suspect that the disappearance of Commanders from the registry may have more
to do with parts accessibility for the older models especially related to the
geared engines.
This is from an ex-Commander owner (4 years and 1000 hours). It was the most fantastic
airplane to fly but the costs took a lot of the pleasure out of it.
I made the mistake of putting a spread sheet to it and and the hourly cost was
in the $550.00/hr. range. That is an awful lot for a hobby and you learn the
true definition of an addiction.
I now fly a pristine Geronimo. It is more than half the cost and only 1/3 less
performance. The cost differential is just a guess as I refuse to accurately
calculate it.
I hope I have been impartially helpful. If $$ was not an issue at all, I probably
would still be flying the Commander.
The other issue was where to park it. My hanger that I had for a single engine
Commander 114 only had a 10 foot door that obviously didn't accommodate a plane
with a 14.5 foot tail.
Don
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> On May 16, 2014, at 8:13 PM, joel carter <joel.carter131@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm a commander enthusiast looking for answers.
>
> 1) What would be a ballpark cost for a typical no squawk or low squawk annual
on a well maintained straight 500 in $ and hours?
>
> 2) I read somewhere that to avoid hydraulic problems all hoses, fittings, etc
should be replaced every 10 years at a cost of $10k. True?
>
> 3) How much of a problem have those spar cap AD's been? It seems commanders are
disappearing from the registry. Any relation to concerns about the wing?
>
> That's all for now. Thanks,
> Joel
>
>
>
>
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