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1. 05:44 AM - Re: Commander-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/17/14 (Dan)
2. 06:44 AM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/17/14 (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
3. 10:16 AM - lost another Commander (yourtcfg@aol.com)
4. 10:38 AM - Sad News too close to home (Peter Bichier)
5. 05:03 PM - Re: Sad News too close to home (Russell Legg)
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| Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/17/14 |
I am watching the news and they just showed video of a T Commander wreck in Chicago.
The tail N30MD is registered to Cental Airlines in Kansas. Please keep
the Towners in your prayers, plus pilot and family and those on the ground.
Dan
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> I thought what you said was very interesting, but it seemed like Rush
> didn=99t give it much thought. I hope he will look deeper and talk
> about your book and theory more.
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> Yes, it was, Kerry. I'll be hitting talk shows all over the country next
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> Subject:RE: Commander-List: Our country
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> I think I heard you call in to Rush Limbaugh a few days ago; was that
> you Nico?
>
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> From: nicoCSS <mailto:nico@cybersuperstore.com>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 2:08 PM
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> Subject: Commander-List: Our country
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> Folks,
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>
> Pardon my overt abuse of the list, but you all have become friends and I
> take the liberty of sharing with you some personal news. We became
> citizens in April this year after 21 years as permanent residents. I
> spun into the political arena (perhaps deliberately) and compiled from
> all the notes and research that I had done over the years in my
> fascination with nations and why dynasties rise and fall (or implode)
> like the Roman Empire, for example. How is it that Islam is dynamically
> unstable causing it to expand with impunity into all walks of life and
> how are liberals (Democrat and Republican alike) intellectually siblings
> of Islam. For example, there is no such thing as "radical" Islam and
> once the origins of that label have been uncovered, many things
> happening today can be explained and the next move predicted, which is
> the essence of a correct analysis.
>
>
> During my research I discovered many things which explain what is
> happening in the U.S. today. It is a particular concern not only because
> we swore an oath to have no other loyalty to any other authority than
> the United States which translates into defending and protecting the
> founding principles, but also because South Africa was handed over to
> Marxist rule without a shot being fired (the massive loss of life
> occurred at the hand of the Marxist ANC during the negotiations for a
> constitutional settlement to intimidate the negotiators into rushing
> into an agreement that favored the ANC), while the majority of the
> people (both blacks and whites) were vehemently anti-communist.
>
>
> When we immigrated to the U.S. in 1993, I recognized the same language
> used here that was used in South Africa, with the accompanied violence,
> deceit and sleight of hand, which precipitated my research. A few years
> ago I started putting my thoughts into a book which was published a few
> weeks ago. Last week I was on the Rush Limbaugh Show, which was
> headlined on Rush's website and on his facebook page. Reviewers
> commented that the real root of the problems facing this nation has
> never been properly articulated before, and there is currently no one
> that has identified the root causes, which means it cannot be fixed.
> Perhaps now it can.
>
>
> If you wish to take a look at the book go to
> http://immensapublishing.com and look at the MEDIA page as well, or you
> can Google The Immensa Hypothesis, it fills up the first page. I styled
> the book as a fictional novel to allow me the freedom to say what I
> wanted and to unpack my research as I see fit. So, don't be discouraged
> if you see some fictional characters featured in the book. There is one
> particular very prominent guy whom I didn't want to give the
> recognition, so he became a fictional character. That'll teach him. :-D
>
>
> Anyone, I thought I'd just share this with you, and any comment would be
> appreciated.
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
> Nico
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| Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/17/14 |
Saw the video this morning on the news too. Recognized the tail of a Twin
Commander. Our prayers go out to those involved.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:44 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/17/14
I am watching the news and they just showed video of a T Commander wreck in
Chicago. The tail N30MD is registered to Cental Airlines in Kansas. Please
keep the Towners in your prayers, plus pilot and family and those on the
ground.
Dan
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> 0. 12:12 AM - What's Your Contribution Used For? (Matt Dralle)
> 1. 06:46 AM - Re: Our country (Kerry Johnson)
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> Subject: Commander-List: What's Your Contribution Used For?
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> From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Our country
>
> I thought what you said was very interesting, but it seemed like Rush
> didn=99t give it much thought. I hope he will look deeper and talk
> about your book and theory more.
>
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
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> nico@nicsysco.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Our country
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>
> Yes, it was, Kerry. I'll be hitting talk shows all over the country
> next week.
>
>
> Sent on the new Sprint Network.
>
>
> ------ Original message------
>
> From: Kerry Johnson
>
>
>
> Subject:RE: Commander-List: Our country
>
>
> I think I heard you call in to Rush Limbaugh a few days ago; was that
> you Nico?
>
>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> v-man@v-man.net
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Our country
>
>
> Amen!
>
>
> From: nicoCSS <mailto:nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>
> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 2:08 PM
>
>
> Subject: Commander-List: Our country
>
>
> Folks,
>
>
> Pardon my overt abuse of the list, but you all have become friends and
> I take the liberty of sharing with you some personal news. We became
> citizens in April this year after 21 years as permanent residents. I
> spun into the political arena (perhaps deliberately) and compiled from
> all the notes and research that I had done over the years in my
> fascination with nations and why dynasties rise and fall (or implode)
> like the Roman Empire, for example. How is it that Islam is
> dynamically unstable causing it to expand with impunity into all walks
> of life and how are liberals (Democrat and Republican alike)
> intellectually siblings of Islam. For example, there is no such thing
> as "radical" Islam and once the origins of that label have been
> uncovered, many things happening today can be explained and the next
> move predicted, which is the essence of a correct analysis.
>
>
> During my research I discovered many things which explain what is
> happening in the U.S. today. It is a particular concern not only
> because we swore an oath to have no other loyalty to any other
> authority than the United States which translates into defending and
> protecting the founding principles, but also because South Africa was
> handed over to Marxist rule without a shot being fired (the massive
> loss of life occurred at the hand of the Marxist ANC during the
> negotiations for a constitutional settlement to intimidate the
> negotiators into rushing into an agreement that favored the ANC),
> while the majority of the people (both blacks and whites) were vehemently
anti-communist.
>
>
> When we immigrated to the U.S. in 1993, I recognized the same language
> used here that was used in South Africa, with the accompanied
> violence, deceit and sleight of hand, which precipitated my research.
> A few years ago I started putting my thoughts into a book which was
> published a few weeks ago. Last week I was on the Rush Limbaugh Show,
> which was headlined on Rush's website and on his facebook page.
> Reviewers commented that the real root of the problems facing this
> nation has never been properly articulated before, and there is
> currently no one that has identified the root causes, which means it
cannot be fixed.
> Perhaps now it can.
>
>
> If you wish to take a look at the book go to
> http://immensapublishing.com and look at the MEDIA page as well, or
> you can Google The Immensa Hypothesis, it fills up the first page. I
> styled the book as a fictional novel to allow me the freedom to say
> what I wanted and to unpack my research as I see fit. So, don't be
> discouraged if you see some fictional characters featured in the book.
> There is one particular very prominent guy whom I didn't want to give
> the recognition, so he became a fictional character. That'll teach
> him. :-D
>
>
> Anyone, I thought I'd just share this with you, and any comment would
> be appreciated.
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
> Nico
>
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| Subject: | lost another Commander |
=0AOur hearts are broken for the Towners in the loss of an
other airplane and pilot. Please say a prayer for them an
d the family of the pilot. =0A=0Ahttp://www.cbsnews.com/news/small-p
lane-crashes-into-chicago-home/. =0A
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| Subject: | Sad News too close to home |
Folks,
Very sad to inform that this morning at 2:45 outside of Chicago Midway International
N30MB (500B) went down and crashed into a home. It seems the young pilot
lost the left engine and was trying to make it back to the runway.
Luckily the couple sleeping in their bedroom were untouched, unfortunately by looking
at the plane's attitude it seems the pilot stalled and lost control trying
to save the plane.
Sad day for all, specially for Central Air.
My condoleances to the young pilot's family and to John and Andrew.
The news is all over the web including front page of the NTSB. One of these clips
has the ATC recording; he was very calm and seemed to have the situation under
control. The chief fire fighter mentions that there was leaking fuel on the
living room.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-midway-plane-crash-20141118-story.html
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-midway-plane-crash-283026581.html
http://wgntv.com/2014/11/18/small-plane-crashes-into-a-home-near-midway-airport/
Hopefully we can learn from this tragedy
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Sad News too close to home |
Hi Peter,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention - our thoughts and prayers are
with Andrew and John and the Central Air family.
An amazing twist that it involved the aeroplane registered in recognition
of the late Murray Brown, Central Air's former Manager Operations.
A very sad day indeed!
Russell
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014, Peter Bichier <yvabe560@gmail.com> wrote:
> <javascript:;>>
>
> Folks,
>
> Very sad to inform that this morning at 2:45 outside of Chicago Midway
> International N30MB (500B) went down and crashed into a home. It seems the
> young pilot lost the left engine and was trying to make it back to the
> runway.
>
> Luckily the couple sleeping in their bedroom were untouched, unfortunately
> by looking at the plane's attitude it seems the pilot stalled and lost
> control trying to save the plane.
>
> Sad day for all, specially for Central Air.
>
> My condoleances to the young pilot's family and to John and Andrew.
>
> The news is all over the web including front page of the NTSB. One of
> these clips has the ATC recording; he was very calm and seemed to have the
> situation under control. The chief fire fighter mentions that there was
> leaking fuel on the living room.
>
>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-midway-plane-crash-20141118-story.html
>
>
> http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-midway-plane-crash-283026581.html
>
>
> http://wgntv.com/2014/11/18/small-plane-crashes-into-a-home-near-midway-airport/
>
> Hopefully we can learn from this tragedy
>
> --------
> 560 Dreamer
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433986#433986
>
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