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1. 11:29 AM - Commander Parts (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
2. 07:28 PM - 680FP Speed Question (Glenn Hancock)
3. 08:19 PM - Re: 680FP Speed Question (K.S.Gordon)
4. 08:39 PM - Re: Commander Parts (lloyd silverman)
5. 08:44 PM - Re: Commander Parts (John Ives)
6. 08:45 PM - Re: Commander Parts (John Vormbaum)
7. 08:58 PM - Re: Commander Parts (Paul Gendron)
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Hello Commander fans,
We are trying to locate some lower fuselage skin panels for my 680F.
Anybody know of available parts or a salvage plane somewhere..?? Models
500A & B, 560, or 680F will work. Thanks much.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
logoRED-126x38@72dpi
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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| Subject: | 680FP Speed Question |
So I purchased the 680FP and had my mechanic fly it back to TN from NM. It
was about a 600nm trip and I followed him in my 310Q with my wife and 3
year old son. We flew back at 9500 and he went up to 13500. I am not sure
how he managed the engines or how he did anything for that matter, but what
I was most interested in was his speed. I purchased this airplane with the
understanding that it was at least a 200knot airplane.
So we took off and proceeded to fly cross country for 3 hours. To my
absolute disappointment he arrived 7 minutes ahead of me. He said he was
doing 181MPH indicated which was basically the same speed I was doing in my
310 at a lower altitude.
So my question is: Was I dupped and the 680Fp is the same speed as the
310Q? Except it burns twice as much gas. Or was he perhaps not flying it
properly? I still love the plane and not changing my mind, just won't be
quite as happy with it if it's that slow. It has flap gap seals and
winglets although I'm not sure how much either adds to actual speed. He
averaged about 55gph fuel burn compared to my 26gph.
Even at 190kts he should have been indicating 220mph.
Thanks,
--
--glenn hancock
You can't win an argument with an ignorant person. They'll just drag you
down to their level and beat you with experience.
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| Subject: | 680FP Speed Question |
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| Subject: | Re: Commander Parts |
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Randy, be careful the rivet holes probably wont line up with yours.
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Dettmer, AIA<mailto:rcdettmer@charter.net>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:29 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Commander Parts
Hello Commander fans,
We are trying to locate some lower fuselage skin panels for my 680F.
Anybody know of available parts or a salvage plane somewhere..??
Models 500A & B, 560, or 680F will work. Thanks much.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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| Subject: | Re: Commander Parts |
I'd have thought the best way to do it is get a sheetie and install new mate
rial. The cost is probably going to be close and the job better done
John Ives
AC 685
VH NJT
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> On 21 Jul 2015, at 1:41 pm, lloyd silverman <lloydsss11@MSN.COM> wrote:
>
> Randy, be careful the rivet holes probably wont line up with yours.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Randy Dettmer, AIA
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:29 PM
> Subject: Commander-List: Commander Parts
>
> Hello Commander fans,
> We are trying to locate some lower fuselage skin panels for my 680F. Anyb
ody know of available parts or a salvage plane somewhere..?? Models 500A &
B, 560, or 680F will work. Thanks much.
>
> Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
>
> <image001.gif>
>
> Dettmer Architecture
> 663 Hill Street
> San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
> 805 541 4864 / fax 805 541 4865
> www.dettmerarchitecture.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Commander Parts |
Ok that was funny, Lloyd. Thanks for the laugh!
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 20, 2015, at 8:43 PM, lloyd silverman <lloydsss11@msn.com> wrote:
Randy, be careful the rivet holes probably wont line up with yours.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Randy Dettmer, AIA <rcdettmer@charter.net>
*To:* commander-list@matronics.com
*Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2015 2:29 PM
*Subject:* Commander-List: Commander Parts
Hello Commander fans,
We are trying to locate some lower fuselage skin panels for my 680F.
Anybody know of available parts or a salvage plane somewhere..?? Models
500A & B, 560, or 680F will work. Thanks much.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
<image001.gif>
*Dettmer Architecture*
*663 Hill Street*
*San Luis Obispo, CA 93405*
*805 541 4864 / fax 805 541 4865*
*www.dettmerarchitecture.com <http://www.dettmerarchitecture.com>*
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| Subject: | Re: Commander Parts |
Randy, I have two donors, one flp and a 690 I also have a Sheetmetal guy
that can make the skins and circumferrentials from the templates you remove
from the smaller frames. I also have the z brackets and z couplings. I have
a full set of ldg gear. Pressurized windshields and side windows. Let me
know if you need anything. 954-547-3002 Paul Gendron
On Jul 20, 2015 2:32 PM, "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
wrote:
> Hello Commander fans,
>
> We are trying to locate some lower fuselage skin panels for my 680F.
> Anybody know of available parts or a salvage plane somewhere..?? Models
> 500A & B, 560, or 680F will work. Thanks much.
>
>
> Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
>
>
> [image: logoRED-126x38@72dpi]
>
>
> *Dettmer Architecture*
>
> *663 Hill Street*
>
> *San Luis Obispo, CA 93405*
>
> *805 541 4864 <805%20541%204864> / fax 805 541 4865 <805%20541%204865>*
>
> *www.dettmerarchitecture.com <http://www.dettmerarchitecture.com>*
>
>
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