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1. 03:57 AM - Re: Commander 500S oil pressure (Glenn Hancock)
2. 04:43 AM - Re: Commander 500S oil pressure (Russell Legg)
3. 06:46 AM - Re: Commander 500S oil pressure (Tylor Hall)
4. 10:20 AM - Re: Commander 500S oil pressure (Glenn Hancock)
5. 10:37 AM - Re: Commander 500S oil pressure (John Vormbaum)
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 500S oil pressure |
Derek,
Everyone has begun to move off this last and over to Twin commander
group.com
Come join us over there and repost your question in the engines section.
Thanks
Glenn
On Wednesday, October 14, 2015, N202JH <n202jh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Evening,
>
>
> My boss has a Commander 500S.
>
> Right engine runs perfect oil pressure in flight. It matches the left
> engine within one PSI.
>
> However, the right engine does something strange between cold and hot
> engine core temperatures.
>
> First start of the day, cold engine, you get an initial high oil pressure
> as expected with cold oil. But it is very high, over 90 PSI. The left
> engine is only around high 80s.
>
> Right engine oil press comes down as expected after the engine warms.
>
> We take off and in cruise, both pressures are matched +/- 1 PSI.
>
> After landing, the right engine oil pressure is very low, below bottom
> redline.
>
> If I were to do a feather check at this point, the prop recovery time is
> very long confirming low oil pressure.
>
> My mechanic replaced the ball and spring for the "oil pressure maintaining
> valve", if that term is correct, and honed out a fresh seat for the ball.
>
> No change to the oil pressure behavior I listed above,
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek Groves
> Midas Air Corp
> Groves Aviation Inc.
> Dgroves484@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Dgroves484@gmail.com');>
> (954) 240-1383
>
> Derek Groves
> Midas Air Corp
> Groves Aviation Inc.
> N202JH@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','N202JH@gmail.com');>
> (954) 240-1383
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
--glenn hancock
You can't win an argument with an ignorant person. They'll just drag you
down to their level and beat you with experience.
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 500S oil pressure |
This one has migrated...
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Glenn Hancock <glennh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Derek,
>
> Everyone has begun to move off this last and over to Twin commander
> group.com
>
> Come join us over there and repost your question in the engines section.
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
>
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015, N202JH <n202jh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good Evening,
>>
>>
>> My boss has a Commander 500S.
>>
>> Right engine runs perfect oil pressure in flight. It matches the left
>> engine within one PSI.
>>
>> However, the right engine does something strange between cold and hot
>> engine core temperatures.
>>
>> First start of the day, cold engine, you get an initial high oil pressure
>> as expected with cold oil. But it is very high, over 90 PSI. The left
>> engine is only around high 80s.
>>
>> Right engine oil press comes down as expected after the engine warms.
>>
>> We take off and in cruise, both pressures are matched +/- 1 PSI.
>>
>> After landing, the right engine oil pressure is very low, below bottom
>> redline.
>>
>> If I were to do a feather check at this point, the prop recovery time is
>> very long confirming low oil pressure.
>>
>> My mechanic replaced the ball and spring for the "oil pressure
>> maintaining valve", if that term is correct, and honed out a fresh seat for
>> the ball.
>>
>> No change to the oil pressure behavior I listed above,
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Derek Groves
>> Midas Air Corp
>> Groves Aviation Inc.
>> Dgroves484@gmail.com
>> (954) 240-1383
>>
>> Derek Groves
>> Midas Air Corp
>> Groves Aviation Inc.
>> N202JH@gmail.com
>> (954) 240-1383
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> *
>>
>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List>
>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
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>>
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>>
>>
>
> --
> --glenn hancock
>
> You can't win an argument with an ignorant person. They'll just drag you
> down to their level and beat you with experience.
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 500S oil pressure |
Hay guys, the link to Group.com <http://group.com/> goes to publishing
company for bible learning. Interesting, but nothing about Aero
Commanders.
Where is the new web page?
twincommander.org <http://twincommander.org/> is the old web site for
TCFG. No link there.
????
Tylor Hall
tylorhall@mac.com
First Fueling Systems, Inc.
401 Monte Alto PL NE
Albuquerque, NM 87123
505-400-8373 Cell
505-247-3001
www.firstfueling.com
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Russell Legg <aero560e@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This one has migrated...
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Glenn Hancock <glennh@gmail.com
<mailto:glennh@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Derek,
>
> Everyone has begun to move off this last and over to Twin commander
group.com <http://group.com/>
>
> Come join us over there and repost your question in the engines
section.
>
> Thanks
>
> Glenn
>
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015, N202JH <n202jh@gmail.com
<mailto:n202jh@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Good Evening,
>
>
> My boss has a Commander 500S.
>
> Right engine runs perfect oil pressure in flight. It matches the left
engine within one PSI.
>
> However, the right engine does something strange between cold and hot
engine core temperatures.
>
> First start of the day, cold engine, you get an initial high oil
pressure as expected with cold oil. But it is very high, over 90 PSI.
The left engine is only around high 80s.
>
> Right engine oil press comes down as expected after the engine warms.
>
> We take off and in cruise, both pressures are matched +/- 1 PSI.
>
> After landing, the right engine oil pressure is very low, below bottom
redline.
>
> If I were to do a feather check at this point, the prop recovery time
is very long confirming low oil pressure.
>
> My mechanic replaced the ball and spring for the "oil pressure
maintaining valve", if that term is correct, and honed out a fresh seat
for the ball.
>
> No change to the oil pressure behavior I listed above,
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Derek Groves
> Midas Air Corp
> Groves Aviation Inc.
> Dgroves484@gmail.com <>
> (954) 240-1383 <tel:(954)%20240-1383>
>
> Derek Groves
> Midas Air Corp
> Groves Aviation Inc.
> N202JH@gmail.com <>
> (954) 240-1383 <tel:%28954%29%20240-1383>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List>
> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
<http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>
>
>
> --
> --glenn hancock
>
> You can't win an argument with an ignorant person. They'll just drag
you down to their level and beat you with experience.
>
>
>
>
> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List>
<http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 500S oil pressure |
Twin commander group.com
On Thursday, October 15, 2015, Tylor Hall <tylorhall@mac.com> wrote:
> Hay guys, the link to Group.com goes to publishing company for bible
> learning. Interesting, but nothing about Aero Commanders.
> Where is the new web page?
> twincommander.org is the old web site for TCFG. No link there.
> ????
>
> Tylor Hall
> tylorhall@mac.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tylorhall@mac.com');>
> First Fueling Systems, Inc.
> 401 Monte Alto PL NE
> Albuquerque, NM 87123
> 505-400-8373 Cell
> 505-247-3001
> www.firstfueling.com
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Russell Legg <aero560e@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aero560e@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> This one has migrated...
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Glenn Hancock <glennh@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','glennh@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Derek,
>>
>> Everyone has begun to move off this last and over to Twin commander
>> group.com
>>
>> Come join us over there and repost your question in the engines section.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015, N202JH <n202jh@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n202jh@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good Evening,
>>>
>>>
>>> My boss has a Commander 500S.
>>>
>>> Right engine runs perfect oil pressure in flight. It matches the left
>>> engine within one PSI.
>>>
>>> However, the right engine does something strange between cold and hot
>>> engine core temperatures.
>>>
>>> First start of the day, cold engine, you get an initial high oil
>>> pressure as expected with cold oil. But it is very high, over 90 PSI. The
>>> left engine is only around high 80s.
>>>
>>> Right engine oil press comes down as expected after the engine warms.
>>>
>>> We take off and in cruise, both pressures are matched +/- 1 PSI.
>>>
>>> After landing, the right engine oil pressure is very low, below bottom
>>> redline.
>>>
>>> If I were to do a feather check at this point, the prop recovery time is
>>> very long confirming low oil pressure.
>>>
>>> My mechanic replaced the ball and spring for the "oil pressure
>>> maintaining valve", if that term is correct, and honed out a fresh seat for
>>> the ball.
>>>
>>> No change to the oil pressure behavior I listed above,
>>>
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Derek Groves
>>> Midas Air Corp
>>> Groves Aviation Inc.
>>> Dgroves484@gmail.com
>>> (954) 240-1383
>>>
>>> Derek Groves
>>> Midas Air Corp
>>> Groves Aviation Inc.
>>> N202JH@gmail.com
>>> (954) 240-1383
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List>
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> --glenn hancock
>>
>> You can't win an argument with an ignorant person. They'll just drag you
>> down to their level and beat you with experience.
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List>
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
> *
>
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>
>
> *
>
>
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>
>
--
--glenn hancock
You can't win an argument with an ignorant person. They'll just drag you
down to their level and beat you with experience.
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 500S oil pressure |
twincommandergroup.com <http://twincommandergroup.com/>
> On Oct 15, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Glenn Hancock <glennh@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Twin commander group.com <http://group.com/>
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2015, Tylor Hall <tylorhall@mac.com
<mailto:tylorhall@mac.com>> wrote:
> Hay guys, the link to Group.com <http://group.com/> goes to
publishing company for bible learning. Interesting, but nothing about
Aero Commanders.
> Where is the new web page?
> twincommander.org <http://twincommander.org/> is the old web site for
TCFG. No link there.
> ????
>
> Tylor Hall
> tylorhall@mac.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tylorhall@mac.com');>
> First Fueling Systems, Inc.
> 401 Monte Alto PL NE
> Albuquerque, NM 87123
> 505-400-8373 Cell
> 505-247-3001
> www.firstfueling.com <http://www.firstfueling.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Russell Legg <aero560e@gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aero560e@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> This one has migrated...
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Glenn Hancock <glennh@gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','glennh@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> Derek,
>>
>> Everyone has begun to move off this last and over to Twin commander
group.com <http://group.com/>
>>
>> Come join us over there and repost your question in the engines
section.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015, N202JH <n202jh@gmail.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n202jh@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> Good Evening,
>>
>>
>> My boss has a Commander 500S.
>>
>> Right engine runs perfect oil pressure in flight. It matches the left
engine within one PSI.
>>
>> However, the right engine does something strange between cold and hot
engine core temperatures.
>>
>> First start of the day, cold engine, you get an initial high oil
pressure as expected with cold oil. But it is very high, over 90 PSI.
The left engine is only around high 80s.
>>
>> Right engine oil press comes down as expected after the engine warms.
>>
>> We take off and in cruise, both pressures are matched +/- 1 PSI.
>>
>> After landing, the right engine oil pressure is very low, below
bottom redline.
>>
>> If I were to do a feather check at this point, the prop recovery time
is very long confirming low oil pressure.
>>
>> My mechanic replaced the ball and spring for the "oil pressure
maintaining valve", if that term is correct, and honed out a fresh seat
for the ball.
>>
>> No change to the oil pressure behavior I listed above,
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Derek Groves
>> Midas Air Corp
>> Groves Aviation Inc.
>> Dgroves484@gmail.com <>
>> (954) 240-1383 <tel:(954)%20240-1383>
>>
>> Derek Groves
>> Midas Air Corp
>> Groves Aviation Inc.
>> N202JH@gmail.com <>
>> (954) 240-1383 <tel:%28954%29%20240-1383>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List>
>> tp://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
<http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --glenn hancock
>>
>> You can't win an argument with an ignorant person. They'll just drag
you down to their level and beat you with experience.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List>
>> tp://forums.matronics.com <>
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
<http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List>"
class="">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List>
>> class="">http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/>
>> class="">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
<http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
>>
>
>
>
> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
> --
> --glenn hancock
>
> You can't win an argument with an ignorant person. They'll just drag
you down to their level and beat you with experience.
>
>
>
>
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