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     1. 05:30 AM - Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle ()
     2. 06:32 AM - Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle (Deneal Schilmeister (MacPro13))
     3. 06:38 AM - Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle (Tom Fisher)
     4. 07:23 AM - Re: [matronics.com] Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle (Nico hMail)
     5. 09:48 AM - Re: [matronics.com] Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle (v-man)
     6. 10:31 AM - Re: [matronics.com] Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle (John Vormbaum)
     7. 11:33 AM - Re: [matronics.com] Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle (Nico hMail)
     8. 04:21 PM - Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle (Gil Walker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:30:51 AM PST US
    From: <nico@nicsysco.com>
    Subject: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering
    the struggle Gil, I wrote back in 2003 about the developing trends and ten years later I published a book (Amazon: The Immensa Hypothesis) explaining how Obama would cause the United States to surrender its sovereignty with him, both houses of congress and the Supreme Court justices in a parade to the surrendering ceremony The media would be hailing it as a huge victory for eternal peace, global prosperity and the end of all wars. In fact, I wrote, the American people would beg Obama to do this with him as emperor of the American continent. How would this be done? As we have seen in Paris and soon the rest of Europe with the U.S. following thereafter: large scale Islamic terror, then a war with Russia staged in the Middle East which Obama as CIC will architect to lose, and China in California. We tend to forget that China's aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, already lies in the Long Beach shipyard, that Clinton sold to the Chinese in the 1990s. The keys are the classification of Islam as "Radical" and others as "Moderate" to allow the moderate Muslims to freely enter the country under the banner of religious freedom, which sets up the infra-structure (mosques, sponsors, money and jobs) to open the borders for the radicals. Once they managed to embed into the people's psyche that radical is bad and moderate is good, then Christians and Jews who hold to their Scriptures (don't lie, don't steal, don't kill) would also be classified as radicals and those who violate their underlying doctrine for the sake of "peace" would be moderates. Once that's done, those Americans who hold to the Constitution would also be radicals and fundamentalists, both words are already epithets. Laws passed to curtail, detain, and prosecute terrorists would scoop up Christians, Jews, and conservative Americans as well. I am finalizing Part Two of the book explaining what we can do to stop this and prevent it from ever happening again. The immediate essentials are to prevent Obama from dragging the U.S. into war with Russia (and China) and prevent further debt, because that would be China's motive for aggression against the U.S. Once the dollar collapses China will sue for its money back rendering the 90 million+ Americans with guns and own discretion to protect themselves, but completely paralyzed. What France is going to do next will be crucial. Whether the socialist Hollande will engage in mere token retaliation is very likely. If the entire Europe would not deport all Muslims, not only "radicals", the bomb would be ticking and set to go off before the November 2016 elections. We have demanded that conservatives reach across the aisle to Democrats, who didn't meet us half-way but dragged our emissaries all the way over to their side. We have no idea what we are about to face and who we can trust. By design. Nico From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Unfortunate that they only understand force ! Just as we are going to see in this country ! I Never thought I would see this country in the state it is in today ! Never ! If we don't get a real president and congress this time we are in deep trouble ! We have already lost Common sense approach to most every aspect of our government . Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:28 PM, "Nick Martin" <nick@container.com> wrote: Gil, Pope Francis needs to read and study this ..Nick From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Great article . Thanks Gil Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, "Nico hMail" <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: Remembering 11th November 1965 when Ian Smith declared unilateral independence for Rhodesia and introduced the golden years in that country's entire history. It had a budget surplus, economic growth surpassing almost all the countries of the world, low unemployment still not seen in the world, no racial segregation, a capitalist economy, and liberty for all. The socialist West, communist East, and communist Africa -- all in cahoots to not tolerate a smidgen of capitalism and liberty succeeding anywhere in the world -- pounced on Smith, forcing Mugabe and a brutal communist regime onto the people, knowing that thousands of Rhodesians would be slaughtered, but that was a fair price to pay to prevent capitalism and liberty from taking hold. Rhodesia was pushed over the cliff of racism and totalitarian rule crashing onto the rocks below with huge loss of life, liberty and property. It was like anywhere else where communism engulfed people: the very people it claims to rush to the rescue for, are the very people it kills first. It's like the gay-marriage hoax, the global climate-change hoax, the GMO hoax, and other hoaxes that have so successfully paved the way for communism. The West's cuddly relationship with socialism's chickens are soaring home to roost. Islam, the grand-daddy of all totalitarian regimes, is walking into their homes, their parliaments and their churches against which they are totally defenseless because Islam uses the exact same language-keys they used to embrace socialism. To resist Islam requires a mind-shift of epic proportions and an abandonment of all their idol-gods that they believed were the source of their peace and righteousness against capitalism and liberty. How our cries of warning of the depravity of socialism, which fell on defiant ears, now echo in horror in them when they see their daughters consumed by legalized rape, torture and sex-slavery, their wives draped in burkahs, beaten should they resist Shariah Law. It would have been easy to yell at them "we told you so" if it were not so brutally bloody and sad to people who grew up on the luring fruit of socialism. It would have been easy to refer them to the tragedy of Rhodesia and Ian Smith in 1965 if it would serve any purpose. Communism, obeying its DNA, will run its cause until it has had its fill on innocent blood, as it has done over and over again in the previous century. Almost 100 years ago the slaughter of innocents started for that century, just as it has today for this century. Will this also last 80 years costing more than 100 million innocent lives of people who merely desired to be free and independent?


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    Time: 06:32:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI)
    remembering the struggle
    From: "Deneal Schilmeister (MacPro13)" <deneals@deneals.com>
    Nico: You=B9ve hijacked what was a nice listserv with your political agenda. STFU. From: <nico@nicsysco.com> Subject: RE: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Gil, I wrote back in 2003 about the developing trends and ten years later I published a book (Amazon: The Immensa Hypothesis) explaining how Obama woul d cause the United States to surrender its sovereignty with him, both houses of congress and the Supreme Court justices in a parade to the surrendering ceremony The media would be hailing it as a huge victory for eternal peace, global prosperity and the end of all wars. In fact, I wrote, the American people would beg Obama to do this with him as emperor of the American continent. How would this be done? As we have seen in Paris and soon the rest of Europe with the U.S. following thereafter: large scale Islamic terror, then a war with Russia staged in the Middle East which Obama as CIC will architect to lose, and China in California. We tend to forget that China's aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, already lies in the Long Beach shipyard, that Clinton sold to the Chinese in the 1990s. The keys are the classification of Islam as "Radical" and others as "Moderate" to allow the moderate Muslims to freely enter the country under the banner of religious freedom, which sets up the infra-structure (mosques , sponsors, money and jobs) to open the borders for the radicals. Once they managed to embed into the people's psyche that radical is bad and moderate is good, then Christians and Jews who hold to their Scriptures (don't lie, don't steal, don't kill) would also be classified as radicals and those who violate their underlying doctrine for the sake of "peace" would be moderates. Once that's done, those Americans who hold to the Constitution would also be radicals and fundamentalists, both words are already epithets . Laws passed to curtail, detain, and prosecute terrorists would scoop up Christians, Jews, and conservative Americans as well. I am finalizing Part Two of the book explaining what we can do to stop this and prevent it from ever happening again. The immediate essentials are to prevent Obama from dragging the U.S. into war with Russia (and China) and prevent further debt, because that would be China's motive for aggression against the U.S. Once the dollar collapses China will sue for its money back rendering the 90 million+ Americans with guns and own discretion to protect themselves, but completely paralyzed. What France is going to do next will be crucial. Whether the socialist Hollande will engage in mere token retaliation is very likely. If the entir e Europe would not deport all Muslims, not only "radicals", the bomb would be ticking and set to go off before the November 2016 elections. We have demanded that conservatives reach across the aisle to Democrats, wh o didn't meet us half-way but dragged our emissaries all the way over to thei r side. We have no idea what we are about to face and who we can trust. By design. Nico From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Unfortunate that they only understand force ! Just as we are going to see i n this country ! I Never thought I would see this country in the state it is in today ! Never ! If we don't get a real president and congress this time we are in deep trouble ! We have already lost Common sense approach to most every aspect of our government . Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:28 PM, "Nick Martin" <nick@container.com> wrote: > > Gil, > Pope Francis needs to read and study this ..Nick > > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walke r > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:42 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com <http://nicsysco.com> ] Rhodes ian > Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle > > > Great article . Thanks Gil > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, "Nico hMail" <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: >> >> Remembering 11th November 1965 when Ian Smith declared unilateral >> independence for Rhodesia and introduced the golden years in that countr y's >> entire history. It had a budget surplus, economic growth surpassing almo st >> all the countries of the world, low unemployment still not seen in the w orld, >> no racial segregation, a capitalist economy, and liberty for all. >> >> The socialist West, communist East, and communist Africa -- all in cahoo ts to >> not tolerate a smidgen of capitalism and liberty succeeding anywhere in the >> world -- pounced on Smith, forcing Mugabe and a brutal communist regime onto >> the people, knowing that thousands of Rhodesians would be slaughtered, b ut >> that was a fair price to pay to prevent capitalism and liberty from taki ng >> hold. >> >> Rhodesia was pushed over the cliff of racism and totalitarian rule crash ing >> onto the rocks below with huge loss of life, liberty and property. It wa s >> like anywhere else where communism engulfed people: the very people it c laims >> to rush to the rescue for, are the very people it kills first. It's like the >> gay-marriage hoax, the global climate-change hoax, the GMO hoax, and oth er >> hoaxes that have so successfully paved the way for communism. >> >> The West's cuddly relationship with socialism's chickens are soaring hom e to >> roost. Islam, the grand-daddy of all totalitarian regimes, is walking in to >> their homes, their parliaments and their churches against which they are >> totally defenseless because Islam uses the exact same language-keys they used >> to embrace socialism. To resist Islam requires a mind-shift of epic >> proportions and an abandonment of all their idol-gods that they believed were >> the source of their peace and righteousness against capitalism and liber ty. >> >> How our cries of warning of the depravity of socialism, which fell on de fiant >> ears, now echo in horror in them when they see their daughters consumed by >> legalized rape, torture and sex-slavery, their wives draped in burkahs, >> beaten should they resist Shariah Law. >> >> It would have been easy to yell at them "we told you so" if it were not so >> brutally bloody and sad to people who grew up on the luring fruit of >> socialism. >> >> It would have been easy to refer them to the tragedy of Rhodesia and Ian >> Smith in 1965 if it would serve any purpose. Communism, obeying its DNA, will >> run its cause until it has had its fill on innocent blood, as it has don e >> over and over again in the previous century. Almost 100 years ago the >> slaughter of innocents started for that century, just as it has today fo r >> this century. >> >> Will this also last 80 years costing more than 100 million innocent live s of >> people who merely desired to be free and independent? >> >>


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    Time: 06:38:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI)
    remembering the struggle
    From: Tom Fisher <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    I wondered how this applied to a Commander's issues. Tom C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Deneal Schilmeister (MacPro13) < deneals@deneals.com> wrote: > Nico: > > You=99ve hijacked what was a nice listserv with your political agen da. > > STFU. > > From: <nico@nicsysco.com> > Date: Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:30 AM > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RE: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 > (UDI) remembering the struggle > > Gil, > > I wrote back in 2003 about the developing trends and ten years later I > published a book (Amazon: The Immensa Hypothesis) explaining how Obama > would cause the United States to surrender its sovereignty with him, both > houses of congress and the Supreme Court justices in a parade to the > surrendering ceremony The media would be hailing it as a huge victory for > eternal peace, global prosperity and the end of all wars. In fact, I wrot e, > the American people would beg Obama to do this with him as emperor of the > American continent. How would this be done? As we have seen in Paris and > soon the rest of Europe with the U.S. following thereafter: large scale > Islamic terror, then a war with Russia staged in the Middle East which > Obama as CIC will architect to lose, and China in California. We tend to > forget that China's aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, already lies in the > Long Beach shipyard, that Clinton sold to the Chinese in the 1990s. > > > The keys are the classification of Islam as "Radical" and others as > "Moderate" to allow the moderate Muslims to freely enter the country unde r > the banner of religious freedom, which sets up the infra-structure > (mosques, sponsors, money and jobs) to open the borders for the radicals. > Once they managed to embed into the people's psyche that radical is bad a nd > moderate is good, then Christians and Jews who hold to their Scriptures > (don't lie, don't steal, don't kill) would also be classified as radicals > and those who violate their underlying doctrine for the sake of "peace" > would be moderates. Once that's done, those Americans who hold to the > Constitution would also be radicals and fundamentalists, both words are > already epithets. Laws passed to curtail, detain, and prosecute terrorist s > would scoop up Christians, Jews, and conservative Americans as well. > > > I am finalizing Part Two of the book explaining what we can do to stop > this and prevent it from ever happening again. The immediate essentials a re > to prevent Obama from dragging the U.S. into war with Russia (and China) > and prevent further debt, because that would be China's motive for > aggression against the U.S. Once the dollar collapses China will sue for > its money back rendering the 90 million+ Americans with guns and own > discretion to protect themselves, but completely paralyzed. > > > What France is going to do next will be crucial. Whether the socialist > Hollande will engage in mere token retaliation is very likely. If the > entire Europe would not deport all Muslims, not only "radicals", the bomb > would be ticking and set to go off before the November 2016 elections. > > > We have demanded that conservatives reach across the aisle to Democrats, > who didn't meet us half-way but dragged our emissaries all the way over t o > their side. We have no idea what we are about to face and who we can trus t. > By design. > > > Nico > > > *From:* owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ > mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > <owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gil Walker > *Sent:* Friday, November 13, 2015 5:12 PM > *To:* commander-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 > (UDI) remembering the struggle > > > Unfortunate that they only understand force ! Just as we are going to see > in this country ! I Never thought I would see this country in the state i t > is in today ! Never ! If we don't get a real president and congress this > time we are in deep trouble ! We have already lost Common sense approach to > most every aspect of our government . > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:28 PM, "Nick Martin" <nick@container.com> wrote: > > Gil, > > Pope Francis needs to read and study this ..Nick > > > *From:* owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ > mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > <owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Gil Walker > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:42 PM > *To:* commander-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 > (UDI) remembering the struggle > > > Great article . Thanks Gil > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, "Nico hMail" <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: > > Remembering 11th November 1965 when Ian Smith declared unilateral > independence for Rhodesia and introduced the golden years in that country 's > entire history. It had a budget surplus, economic growth surpassing almos t > all the countries of the world, low unemployment still not seen in the > world, no racial segregation, a capitalist economy, and liberty for all. > > The socialist West, communist East, and communist Africa -- all in cahoot s > to not tolerate a smidgen of capitalism and liberty succeeding anywhere i n > the world -- pounced on Smith, forcing Mugabe and a brutal communist regi me > onto the people, knowing that thousands of Rhodesians would be slaughtere d, > but that was a fair price to pay to prevent capitalism and liberty from > taking hold. > > Rhodesia was pushed over the cliff of racism and totalitarian rule > crashing onto the rocks below with huge loss of life, liberty and propert y. > It was like anywhere else where communism engulfed people: the very peopl e > it claims to rush to the rescue for, are the very people it kills first. > It's like the gay-marriage hoax, the global climate-change hoax, the GMO > hoax, and other hoaxes that have so successfully paved the way for > communism. > > The West's cuddly relationship with socialism's chickens are soaring home > to roost. Islam, the grand-daddy of all totalitarian regimes, is walking > into their homes, their parliaments and their churches against which they > are totally defenseless because Islam uses the exact same language-keys > they used to embrace socialism. To resist Islam requires a mind-shift of > epic proportions and an abandonment of all their idol-gods that they > believed were the source of their peace and righteousness against > capitalism and liberty. > > How our cries of warning of the depravity of socialism, which fell on > defiant ears, now echo in horror in them when they see their daughters > consumed by legalized rape, torture and sex-slavery, their wives draped i n > burkahs, beaten should they resist Shariah Law. > > It would have been easy to yell at them "we told you so" if it were not s o > brutally bloody and sad to people who grew up on the luring fruit of > socialism. > > It would have been easy to refer them to the tragedy of Rhodesia and Ian > Smith in 1965 if it would serve any purpose. Communism, obeying its DNA, > will run its cause until it has had its fill on innocent blood, as it has > done over and over again in the previous century. Almost 100 years ago th e > slaughter of innocents started for that century, just as it has today for > this century. > > Will this also last 80 years costing more than 100 million innocent lives > of people who merely desired to be free and independent? > >


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    Time: 07:23:51 AM PST US
    From: "Nico hMail" <nico@nicsysco.com>
    Subject: Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence
    1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Hijacked? I just shared my thoughts, Deneal. Using STFU doesn't mute the sound that it really makes. It is not a Commander topic but as an issue, it is very real for all liberty loving people, including Commander flyers. I am not a politician and I do not run for any office of any kind. So, how you can see this as a political agenda is another rather uncertain comment. My country of birth was handed over to communists without a shot being fired, by politicians, no less. I chose to come the U.S., became a citizen, legally, because this country is the only one in which the people have the right to change their government in a non-violent manner. It would have been much less of a culture-shock to have moved to England, Australia or any other British cultured country, but this was and still is the place we wanted to live and have been for the past almost 25 years. So, please, don't lecture me on political agendas and when I see the exact same thing occurring here that caused communist takeovers without the people realizing that it is happening until they were locked up without cause for merely expressing their thoughts, or believing what they thought were their rights. How is that a Commander "issue"? All signs are playing out that Obama will lock you up for expressing your thoughts, take your Commander, money, property and rights away. That's not a political statement, that's a real danger and if you still believe otherwise, you are living with your head in the sand. Pretty much like the Jews who still believed that Hitler's victims must have done something to offend him, even the night before Kristalnacht. Only then did they realize they have no arms, no money, no rights and are petrified at the sight of the SS. To be a Commander fanatic, like we are, does not shield us from reality. You and I have the liberty to drill holes in the sky whenever we choose to do so, solely because of this country's constitution and those brave men and women who defend it. Obama and Democrats are extremely toxic to this nation and its principles and will turn it into a totalitarian state. That's just a fact which they have declared many times over. Take it from someone who has been there and lived through it once before. I apologize if I post something on the Commander list that offends others, and I mean that sincerely. But to STFU me is uncalled for. Nico From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 6:38 AM Subject: [matronics.com] Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle I wondered how this applied to a Commander's issues. Tom C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Deneal Schilmeister (MacPro13) <deneals@deneals.com> wrote: Nico: You=99ve hijacked what was a nice listserv with your political agenda. STFU. From: <nico@nicsysco.com> Subject: RE: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Gil, I wrote back in 2003 about the developing trends and ten years later I published a book (Amazon: The Immensa Hypothesis) explaining how Obama would cause the United States to surrender its sovereignty with him, both houses of congress and the Supreme Court justices in a parade to the surrendering ceremony The media would be hailing it as a huge victory for eternal peace, global prosperity and the end of all wars. In fact, I wrote, the American people would beg Obama to do this with him as emperor of the American continent. How would this be done? As we have seen in Paris and soon the rest of Europe with the U.S. following thereafter: large scale Islamic terror, then a war with Russia staged in the Middle East which Obama as CIC will architect to lose, and China in California. We tend to forget that China's aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, already lies in the Long Beach shipyard, that Clinton sold to the Chinese in the 1990s. The keys are the classification of Islam as "Radical" and others as "Moderate" to allow the moderate Muslims to freely enter the country under the banner of religious freedom, which sets up the infra-structure (mosques, sponsors, money and jobs) to open the borders for the radicals. Once they managed to embed into the people's psyche that radical is bad and moderate is good, then Christians and Jews who hold to their Scriptures (don't lie, don't steal, don't kill) would also be classified as radicals and those who violate their underlying doctrine for the sake of "peace" would be moderates. Once that's done, those Americans who hold to the Constitution would also be radicals and fundamentalists, both words are already epithets. Laws passed to curtail, detain, and prosecute terrorists would scoop up Christians, Jews, and conservative Americans as well. I am finalizing Part Two of the book explaining what we can do to stop this and prevent it from ever happening again. The immediate essentials are to prevent Obama from dragging the U.S. into war with Russia (and China) and prevent further debt, because that would be China's motive for aggression against the U.S. Once the dollar collapses China will sue for its money back rendering the 90 million+ Americans with guns and own discretion to protect themselves, but completely paralyzed. What France is going to do next will be crucial. Whether the socialist Hollande will engage in mere token retaliation is very likely. If the entire Europe would not deport all Muslims, not only "radicals", the bomb would be ticking and set to go off before the November 2016 elections. We have demanded that conservatives reach across the aisle to Democrats, who didn't meet us half-way but dragged our emissaries all the way over to their side. We have no idea what we are about to face and who we can trust. By design. Nico From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Unfortunate that they only understand force ! Just as we are going to see in this country ! I Never thought I would see this country in the state it is in today ! Never ! If we don't get a real president and congress this time we are in deep trouble ! We have already lost Common sense approach to most every aspect of our government . Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:28 PM, "Nick Martin" <nick@container.com> wrote: Gil, Pope Francis needs to read and study this ..Nick From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Great article . Thanks Gil Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, "Nico hMail" <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: Remembering 11th November 1965 when Ian Smith declared unilateral independence for Rhodesia and introduced the golden years in that country's entire history. It had a budget surplus, economic growth surpassing almost all the countries of the world, low unemployment still not seen in the world, no racial segregation, a capitalist economy, and liberty for all. The socialist West, communist East, and communist Africa -- all in cahoots to not tolerate a smidgen of capitalism and liberty succeeding anywhere in the world -- pounced on Smith, forcing Mugabe and a brutal communist regime onto the people, knowing that thousands of Rhodesians would be slaughtered, but that was a fair price to pay to prevent capitalism and liberty from taking hold. Rhodesia was pushed over the cliff of racism and totalitarian rule crashing onto the rocks below with huge loss of life, liberty and property. It was like anywhere else where communism engulfed people: the very people it claims to rush to the rescue for, are the very people it kills first. It's like the gay-marriage hoax, the global climate-change hoax, the GMO hoax, and other hoaxes that have so successfully paved the way for communism. The West's cuddly relationship with socialism's chickens are soaring home to roost. Islam, the grand-daddy of all totalitarian regimes, is walking into their homes, their parliaments and their churches against which they are totally defenseless because Islam uses the exact same language-keys they used to embrace socialism. To resist Islam requires a mind-shift of epic proportions and an abandonment of all their idol-gods that they believed were the source of their peace and righteousness against capitalism and liberty. How our cries of warning of the depravity of socialism, which fell on defiant ears, now echo in horror in them when they see their daughters consumed by legalized rape, torture and sex-slavery, their wives draped in burkahs, beaten should they resist Shariah Law. It would have been easy to yell at them "we told you so" if it were not so brutally bloody and sad to people who grew up on the luring fruit of socialism. It would have been easy to refer them to the tragedy of Rhodesia and Ian Smith in 1965 if it would serve any purpose. Communism, obeying its DNA, will run its cause until it has had its fill on innocent blood, as it has done over and over again in the previous century. Almost 100 years ago the slaughter of innocents started for that century, just as it has today for this century. Will this also last 80 years costing more than 100 million innocent lives of people who merely desired to be free and independent?


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    Subject: Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence
    1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle
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    Time: 10:31:16 AM PST US
    From: John Vormbaum <john@vormbaum.com>
    Subject: Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence
    1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Not relevant to commanders. You should take this topic elsewhere. Sent from my iPhone 6+ > On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Nico hMail <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: > > Hijacked? > > I just shared my thoughts, Deneal. Using STFU doesn't mute the sound that i t really makes. > > It is not a Commander topic but as an issue, it is very real for all liber ty loving people, including Commander flyers. I am not a politician and I do not run for any office of any kind. So, how you can see this as a political agenda is another rather uncertain comment. > > My country of birth was handed over to communists without a shot being fir ed, by politicians, no less. I chose to come the U.S., became a citizen, leg ally, because this country is the only one in which the people have the righ t to change their government in a non-violent manner. It would have been muc h less of a culture-shock to have moved to England, Australia or any other B ritish cultured country, but this was and still is the place we wanted to li ve and have been for the past almost 25 years. > > So, please, don't lecture me on political agendas and when I see the exact same thing occurring here that caused communist takeovers without the peopl e realizing that it is happening until they were locked up without cause for merely expressing their thoughts, or believing what they thought were their rights. > > How is that a Commander "issue"? All signs are playing out that Obama will lock you up for expressing your thoughts, take your Commander, money, prope rty and rights away. That's not a political statement, that's a real danger a nd if you still believe otherwise, you are living with your head in the sand . Pretty much like the Jews who still believed that Hitler's victims must ha ve done something to offend him, even the night before Kristalnacht. Only th en did they realize they have no arms, no money, no rights and are petrified at the sight of the SS. > > To be a Commander fanatic, like we are, does not shield us from reality. Y ou and I have the liberty to drill holes in the sky whenever we choose to do so, solely because of this country's constitution and those brave men and w omen who defend it. Obama and Democrats are extremely toxic to this nation a nd its principles and will turn it into a totalitarian state. That's just a f act which they have declared many times over. Take it from someone who has b een there and lived through it once before. > > I apologize if I post something on the Commander list that offends others, and I mean that sincerely. But to STFU me is uncalled for. > > Nico > > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 6:38 AM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: [matronics.com] Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Inde pendence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle > > I wondered how this applied to a Commander's issues. > Tom > C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Deneal Schilmeister (MacPro13) <deneals@d eneals.com> wrote: > Nico: > > You=99ve hijacked what was a nice listserv with your political agend a. > > STFU. > > From: <nico@nicsysco.com> > Date: Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:30 AM > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RE: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (U DI) remembering the struggle > > Gil, > I wrote back in 2003 about the developing trends and ten years later I pub lished a book (Amazon: The Immensa Hypothesis) explaining how Obama would ca use the United States to surrender its sovereignty with him, both houses of c ongress and the Supreme Court justices in a parade to the surrendering cerem ony The media would be hailing it as a huge victory for eternal peace, globa l prosperity and the end of all wars. In fact, I wrote, the American people w ould beg Obama to do this with him as emperor of the American continent. How would this be done? As we have seen in Paris and soon the rest of Europe wi th the U.S. following thereafter: large scale Islamic terror, then a war wit h Russia staged in the Middle East which Obama as CIC will architect to lose , and China in California. We tend to forget that China's aircraft carrier, t he Liaoning, already lies in the Long Beach shipyard, that Clinton sold to t he Chinese in the 1990s. > > The keys are the classification of Islam as "Radical" and others as "Moder ate" to allow the moderate Muslims to freely enter the country under the ban ner of religious freedom, which sets up the infra-structure (mosques, sponso rs, money and jobs) to open the borders for the radicals. Once they managed to embed into the people's psyche that radical is bad and moderate is good, then Christians and Jews who hold to their Scriptures (don't lie, don't ste al, don't kill) would also be classified as radicals and those who violate t heir underlying doctrine for the sake of "peace" would be moderates. Once th at's done, those Americans who hold to the Constitution would also be radica ls and fundamentalists, both words are already epithets. Laws passed to curt ail, detain, and prosecute terrorists would scoop up Christians, Jews, and c onservative Americans as well. > > I am finalizing Part Two of the book explaining what we can do to stop thi s and prevent it from ever happening again. The immediate essentials are to p revent Obama from dragging the U.S. into war with Russia (and China) and pre vent further debt, because that would be China's motive for aggression again st the U.S. Once the dollar collapses China will sue for its money back ren dering the 90 million+ Americans with guns and own discretion to protect the mselves, but completely paralyzed. > > What France is going to do next will be crucial. Whether the socialist Hol lande will engage in mere token retaliation is very likely. If the entire Eu rope would not deport all Muslims, not only "radicals", the bomb would be ti cking and set to go off before the November 2016 elections. > > We have demanded that conservatives reach across the aisle to Democrats, w ho didn't meet us half-way but dragged our emissaries all the way over to th eir side. We have no idea what we are about to face and who we can trust. By design. > > Nico > > > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:12 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (U DI) remembering the struggle > > Unfortunate that they only understand force ! Just as we are going to see i n this country ! I Never thought I would see this country in the state it is in today ! Never ! If we don't get a real president and congress this time w e are in deep trouble ! We have already lost Common sense approach to most e very aspect of our government . > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:28 PM, "Nick Martin" <nick@container.com> wrote: > > Gil, > Pope Francis needs to read and study this ..Nick > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:42 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (U DI) remembering the struggle > > Great article . Thanks Gil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, "Nico hMail" <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: > > Remembering 11th November 1965 when Ian Smith declared unilateral independ ence for Rhodesia and introduced the golden years in that country's entire h istory. It had a budget surplus, economic growth surpassing almost all the c ountries of the world, low unemployment still not seen in the world, no raci al segregation, a capitalist economy, and liberty for all. > > The socialist West, communist East, and communist Africa -- all in cahoots to not tolerate a smidgen of capitalism and liberty succeeding anywhere in t he world -- pounced on Smith, forcing Mugabe and a brutal communist regime o nto the people, knowing that thousands of Rhodesians would be slaughtered, b ut that was a fair price to pay to prevent capitalism and liberty from takin g hold. > > Rhodesia was pushed over the cliff of racism and totalitarian rule crashin g onto the rocks below with huge loss of life, liberty and property. It was l ike anywhere else where communism engulfed people: the very people it claims to rush to the rescue for, are the very people it kills first. It's like th e gay-marriage hoax, the global climate-change hoax, the GMO hoax, and other hoaxes that have so successfully paved the way for communism. > > The West's cuddly relationship with socialism's chickens are soaring home t o roost. Islam, the grand-daddy of all totalitarian regimes, is walking into their homes, their parliaments and their churches against which they are to tally defenseless because Islam uses the exact same language-keys they used t o embrace socialism. To resist Islam requires a mind-shift of epic proportio ns and an abandonment of all their idol-gods that they believed were the sou rce of their peace and righteousness against capitalism and liberty. > > How our cries of warning of the depravity of socialism, which fell on defi ant ears, now echo in horror in them when they see their daughters consumed b y legalized rape, torture and sex-slavery, their wives draped in burkahs, be aten should they resist Shariah Law. > > It would have been easy to yell at them "we told you so" if it were not so brutally bloody and sad to people who grew up on the luring fruit of social ism. > > It would have been easy to refer them to the tragedy of Rhodesia and Ian S mith in 1965 if it would serve any purpose. Communism, obeying its DNA, will run its cause until it has had its fill on innocent blood, as it has done o ver and over again in the previous century. Almost 100 years ago the slaught er of innocents started for that century, just as it has today for this cent ury. > > Will this also last 80 years costing more than 100 million innocent lives o f people who merely desired to be free and independent? > > >


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    Time: 11:33:51 AM PST US
    From: "Nico hMail" <nico@nicsysco.com>
    Subject: Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence
    1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle I was unfair. Sorry about that. Will do. Apologies, Deneal. From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Vormbaum Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [matronics.com] Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Not relevant to commanders. You should take this topic elsewhere. Sent from my iPhone 6+ On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Nico hMail <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: Hijacked? I just shared my thoughts, Deneal. Using STFU doesn't mute the sound that it really makes. It is not a Commander topic but as an issue, it is very real for all liberty loving people, including Commander flyers. I am not a politician and I do not run for any office of any kind. So, how you can see this as a political agenda is another rather uncertain comment. My country of birth was handed over to communists without a shot being fired, by politicians, no less. I chose to come the U.S., became a citizen, legally, because this country is the only one in which the people have the right to change their government in a non-violent manner. It would have been much less of a culture-shock to have moved to England, Australia or any other British cultured country, but this was and still is the place we wanted to live and have been for the past almost 25 years. So, please, don't lecture me on political agendas and when I see the exact same thing occurring here that caused communist takeovers without the people realizing that it is happening until they were locked up without cause for merely expressing their thoughts, or believing what they thought were their rights. How is that a Commander "issue"? All signs are playing out that Obama will lock you up for expressing your thoughts, take your Commander, money, property and rights away. That's not a political statement, that's a real danger and if you still believe otherwise, you are living with your head in the sand. Pretty much like the Jews who still believed that Hitler's victims must have done something to offend him, even the night before Kristalnacht. Only then did they realize they have no arms, no money, no rights and are petrified at the sight of the SS. To be a Commander fanatic, like we are, does not shield us from reality. You and I have the liberty to drill holes in the sky whenever we choose to do so, solely because of this country's constitution and those brave men and women who defend it. Obama and Democrats are extremely toxic to this nation and its principles and will turn it into a totalitarian state. That's just a fact which they have declared many times over. Take it from someone who has been there and lived through it once before. I apologize if I post something on the Commander list that offends others, and I mean that sincerely. But to STFU me is uncalled for. Nico From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 6:38 AM Subject: [matronics.com] Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle I wondered how this applied to a Commander's issues. Tom C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Deneal Schilmeister (MacPro13) <deneals@deneals.com> wrote: Nico: You=99ve hijacked what was a nice listserv with your political agenda. STFU. From: <nico@nicsysco.com> Subject: RE: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Gil, I wrote back in 2003 about the developing trends and ten years later I published a book (Amazon: The Immensa Hypothesis) explaining how Obama would cause the United States to surrender its sovereignty with him, both houses of congress and the Supreme Court justices in a parade to the surrendering ceremony The media would be hailing it as a huge victory for eternal peace, global prosperity and the end of all wars. In fact, I wrote, the American people would beg Obama to do this with him as emperor of the American continent. How would this be done? As we have seen in Paris and soon the rest of Europe with the U.S. following thereafter: large scale Islamic terror, then a war with Russia staged in the Middle East which Obama as CIC will architect to lose, and China in California. We tend to forget that China's aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, already lies in the Long Beach shipyard, that Clinton sold to the Chinese in the 1990s. The keys are the classification of Islam as "Radical" and others as "Moderate" to allow the moderate Muslims to freely enter the country under the banner of religious freedom, which sets up the infra-structure (mosques, sponsors, money and jobs) to open the borders for the radicals. Once they managed to embed into the people's psyche that radical is bad and moderate is good, then Christians and Jews who hold to their Scriptures (don't lie, don't steal, don't kill) would also be classified as radicals and those who violate their underlying doctrine for the sake of "peace" would be moderates. Once that's done, those Americans who hold to the Constitution would also be radicals and fundamentalists, both words are already epithets. Laws passed to curtail, detain, and prosecute terrorists would scoop up Christians, Jews, and conservative Americans as well. I am finalizing Part Two of the book explaining what we can do to stop this and prevent it from ever happening again. The immediate essentials are to prevent Obama from dragging the U.S. into war with Russia (and China) and prevent further debt, because that would be China's motive for aggression against the U.S. Once the dollar collapses China will sue for its money back rendering the 90 million+ Americans with guns and own discretion to protect themselves, but completely paralyzed. What France is going to do next will be crucial. Whether the socialist Hollande will engage in mere token retaliation is very likely. If the entire Europe would not deport all Muslims, not only "radicals", the bomb would be ticking and set to go off before the November 2016 elections. We have demanded that conservatives reach across the aisle to Democrats, who didn't meet us half-way but dragged our emissaries all the way over to their side. We have no idea what we are about to face and who we can trust. By design. Nico From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Unfortunate that they only understand force ! Just as we are going to see in this country ! I Never thought I would see this country in the state it is in today ! Never ! If we don't get a real president and congress this time we are in deep trouble ! We have already lost Common sense approach to most every aspect of our government . Sent from my iPhone On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:28 PM, "Nick Martin" <nick@container.com> wrote: Gil, Pope Francis needs to read and study this ..Nick From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering the struggle Great article . Thanks Gil Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, "Nico hMail" <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: Remembering 11th November 1965 when Ian Smith declared unilateral independence for Rhodesia and introduced the golden years in that country's entire history. It had a budget surplus, economic growth surpassing almost all the countries of the world, low unemployment still not seen in the world, no racial segregation, a capitalist economy, and liberty for all. The socialist West, communist East, and communist Africa -- all in cahoots to not tolerate a smidgen of capitalism and liberty succeeding anywhere in the world -- pounced on Smith, forcing Mugabe and a brutal communist regime onto the people, knowing that thousands of Rhodesians would be slaughtered, but that was a fair price to pay to prevent capitalism and liberty from taking hold. Rhodesia was pushed over the cliff of racism and totalitarian rule crashing onto the rocks below with huge loss of life, liberty and property. It was like anywhere else where communism engulfed people: the very people it claims to rush to the rescue for, are the very people it kills first. It's like the gay-marriage hoax, the global climate-change hoax, the GMO hoax, and other hoaxes that have so successfully paved the way for communism. The West's cuddly relationship with socialism's chickens are soaring home to roost. Islam, the grand-daddy of all totalitarian regimes, is walking into their homes, their parliaments and their churches against which they are totally defenseless because Islam uses the exact same language-keys they used to embrace socialism. To resist Islam requires a mind-shift of epic proportions and an abandonment of all their idol-gods that they believed were the source of their peace and righteousness against capitalism and liberty. How our cries of warning of the depravity of socialism, which fell on defiant ears, now echo in horror in them when they see their daughters consumed by legalized rape, torture and sex-slavery, their wives draped in burkahs, beaten should they resist Shariah Law. It would have been easy to yell at them "we told you so" if it were not so brutally bloody and sad to people who grew up on the luring fruit of socialism. It would have been easy to refer them to the tragedy of Rhodesia and Ian Smith in 1965 if it would serve any purpose. Communism, obeying its DNA, will run its cause until it has had its fill on innocent blood, as it has done over and over again in the previous century. Almost 100 years ago the slaughter of innocents started for that century, just as it has today for this century. Will this also last 80 years costing more than 100 million innocent lives of people who merely desired to be free and independent?


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    Time: 04:21:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (UDI) remembering
    the struggle
    From: Gil Walker <wingflyer1@aol.com>
    Yes , I agree that Obama and his handlers want to destroy this country ! Aft er his tenure , he will try and may succeed in becoming head of the UN ! He and his bunch will do all they can to destroy this country . At first I tho ught he was just a dummy . But when he said " we will fundamentally change t his country " I thought he was talking about race relations . His goal to re duce our " Foot Print around the World ' was his announcement that he would b ring us down to our knees. . We are in deep trouble and this economy is Ver y Fragile in my opinion . I have always been an optimistic person but facts/ actions from Obama and his bunch , plus the lack of patriotism that has dev eloped in this country, makes me very negative about our future ! When you h ave fifty one percent of the voting public elect some one like Obama , this c ountry is ripe for "Take Over " by the leftist ! Very alarming . If you can' t vote them out , their is only one other alternative ! Thanks Gil Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2015, at 7:30 AM, <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: > > Gil, > I wrote back in 2003 about the developing trends and ten years later I pub lished a book (Amazon: The Immensa Hypothesis) explaining how Obama would ca use the United States to surrender its sovereignty with him, both houses of c ongress and the Supreme Court justices in a parade to the surrendering cerem ony The media would be hailing it as a huge victory for eternal peace, globa l prosperity and the end of all wars. In fact, I wrote, the American people w ould beg Obama to do this with him as emperor of the American continent. How would this be done? As we have seen in Paris and soon the rest of Europe wi th the U.S. following thereafter: large scale Islamic terror, then a war wit h Russia staged in the Middle East which Obama as CIC will architect to lose , and China in California. We tend to forget that China's aircraft carrier, t he Liaoning, already lies in the Long Beach shipyard, that Clinton sold to t he Chinese in the 1990s. > > The keys are the classification of Islam as "Radical" and others as "Moder ate" to allow the moderate Muslims to freely enter the country under the ban ner of religious freedom, which sets up the infra-structure (mosques, sponso rs, money and jobs) to open the borders for the radicals. Once they managed to embed into the people's psyche that radical is bad and moderate is good, then Christians and Jews who hold to their Scriptures (don't lie, don't ste al, don't kill) would also be classified as radicals and those who violate t heir underlying doctrine for the sake of "peace" would be moderates. Once th at's done, those Americans who hold to the Constitution would also be radica ls and fundamentalists, both words are already epithets. Laws passed to curt ail, detain, and prosecute terrorists would scoop up Christians, Jews, and c onservative Americans as well. > > I am finalizing Part Two of the book explaining what we can do to stop thi s and prevent it from ever happening again. The immediate essentials are to p revent Obama from dragging the U.S. into war with Russia (and China) and pre vent further debt, because that would be China's motive for aggression again st the U.S. Once the dollar collapses China will sue for its money back ren dering the 90 million+ Americans with guns and own discretion to protect the mselves, but completely paralyzed. > > What France is going to do next will be crucial. Whether the socialist Hol lande will engage in mere token retaliation is very likely. If the entire Eu rope would not deport all Muslims, not only "radicals", the bomb would be ti cking and set to go off before the November 2016 elections. > > We have demanded that conservatives reach across the aisle to Democrats, w ho didn't meet us half-way but dragged our emissaries all the way over to th eir side. We have no idea what we are about to face and who we can trust. By design. > > Nico > > > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 5:12 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (U DI) remembering the struggle > > Unfortunate that they only understand force ! Just as we are going to see i n this country ! I Never thought I would see this country in the state it is in today ! Never ! If we don't get a real president and congress this time w e are in deep trouble ! We have already lost Common sense approach to most e very aspect of our government . > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:28 PM, "Nick Martin" <nick@container.com> wrote: > > Gil, > Pope Francis needs to read and study this ..Nick > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gil Walker > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:42 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: [nicsysco.com] Rhodesian Independence 1965 (U DI) remembering the struggle > > Great article . Thanks Gil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:38 PM, "Nico hMail" <nico@nicsysco.com> wrote: > > Remembering 11th November 1965 when Ian Smith declared unilateral independ ence for Rhodesia and introduced the golden years in that country's entire h istory. It had a budget surplus, economic growth surpassing almost all the c ountries of the world, low unemployment still not seen in the world, no raci al segregation, a capitalist economy, and liberty for all. > > The socialist West, communist East, and communist Africa -- all in cahoots to not tolerate a smidgen of capitalism and liberty succeeding anywhere in t he world -- pounced on Smith, forcing Mugabe and a brutal communist regime o nto the people, knowing that thousands of Rhodesians would be slaughtered, b ut that was a fair price to pay to prevent capitalism and liberty from takin g hold. > > Rhodesia was pushed over the cliff of racism and totalitarian rule crashin g onto the rocks below with huge loss of life, liberty and property. It was l ike anywhere else where communism engulfed people: the very people it claims to rush to the rescue for, are the very people it kills first. It's like th e gay-marriage hoax, the global climate-change hoax, the GMO hoax, and other hoaxes that have so successfully paved the way for communism. > > The West's cuddly relationship with socialism's chickens are soaring home t o roost. Islam, the grand-daddy of all totalitarian regimes, is walking into their homes, their parliaments and their churches against which they are to tally defenseless because Islam uses the exact same language-keys they used t o embrace socialism. To resist Islam requires a mind-shift of epic proportio ns and an abandonment of all their idol-gods that they believed were the sou rce of their peace and righteousness against capitalism and liberty. > > How our cries of warning of the depravity of socialism, which fell on defi ant ears, now echo in horror in them when they see their daughters consumed b y legalized rape, torture and sex-slavery, their wives draped in burkahs, be aten should they resist Shariah Law. > > It would have been easy to yell at them "we told you so" if it were not so brutally bloody and sad to people who grew up on the luring fruit of social ism. > > It would have been easy to refer them to the tragedy of Rhodesia and Ian S mith in 1965 if it would serve any purpose. Communism, obeying its DNA, will run its cause until it has had its fill on innocent blood, as it has done o ver and over again in the previous century. Almost 100 years ago the slaught er of innocents started for that century, just as it has today for this cent ury. > > Will this also last 80 years costing more than 100 million innocent lives o f people who merely desired to be free and independent? > >




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