---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/22/16: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:32 AM - Re: FW: Landing in New Zealand (Tom Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: Landing in New Zealand From: Tom Fisher In Whistler British Columbia when I was flying helicopter medevac we had to fly below the mountain tops at night from Vancouver to Whistler. We used 3 GPS for assurance we were in the middle of the valley. Tom former 680FLP (Mr.RPM) ATP helicopter On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 3:42 PM, John Vormbaum wrote: > Bill, you=99ve done the kind of flying I NEVER aspire to do :-). I =99m plenty > happy swimming around in the shallows of the mini-mountain-waves of the > Sierra Nevada mountains here in California, and getting my 1-3 hours of > actual IMC time each year > > That being said, there was more than one occasion when I was a young 500B > owner that I might have ended up in a bad spot were it not for the tutela ge > of Morris. > > Cheers, > > /J > > On Apr 20, 2016, at 3:30 PM, William J Hamilton < > wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > Folks, > This is an example of the capability of modern GPS based navigation > systems. > The aircraft (for NZ CAA approval to be gained) must be certified to > Required Navigational Performance (RNP) 0.1, meaning track keeping to +/- > 0.1 NM., plus the necessary precision vertical guidance, to accuracy clos e > to a G/S. > Qantas Airways Ltd and Air New Zealand separately developed their > proprietary procedures and crew training necessary for their operations, > and it had been hugely beneficial both for arrival and departure > reliability, for departure it has also enabled a B737-800 to lift a > considerably greater payload, making Queenstown direct to a greater range > of Australian destinations possible. > Queenstown is the main entry point to the NZ ski-fields. > The whole of the south island of NZ has some truly spectacular flying, > but if you go there, get well briefed by the locals, there are always som e > equally spectacular turbulence and mountain waves. > Coming from Wanaka to Wellington on one occasion, with a good friend of > mine who has spent his flying life in these mountains, in the 500A, we sa t > in the upside of a rotor for over an hour, FL 130, cruising "top of the > green", with only a trickle of power on to keep the CHT up --- great way to > keep the NAMP down --- particularly at NZ avgas prices. > Commonly coming over the hills into Christchurch (B747-400) I have found > myself with approach flap, gear down, engines at idle, and climbing 2000 > fpm. > In the B767, there were days when I would overfly NZCH and descend over > the sea, such was the turbulence in the lee-waves. > Their are number of airfields in China where RNP (Lhasa, Tibet, for one ) > has made the previously impossible, possible. Have a look on YouTube. > Cheers, > Bill Hamilton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > commander-list@matronics.com > > To: > "commander-list@matronics.com" > Cc: > > Sent: > Wed, 20 Apr 2016 14:16:53 +0000 > Subject: > Commander-List: FW: Landing in New Zealand > > > LANDING IN NEW ZEALAND.. > > > Known as the land of the long white cloud, if you fly into New Zealand > you could well encounter this scenario. Hold on to your seat. This is > spectacular. One wonders why the airline industry doesn't have a live > video feed from the aircraft's nose streamed into the cabin in order to > amuse and bedazzle their weary travellers. *Most of the new Generation > Aircraft , in the last 10 yrs or so Do have Cameras, connected to feed > Cabin, for PTVs ( Personal TVs on Seats )or the cabin Supervisor does put > it on the Main screens during Takeoff and Landings ! ! Its been there for > some Time ! *This is the descent into Queenstown, New Zealand . Notice > the mountain range he is flying toward. It must take great faith in your > instruments to pilot an approach like this but the rush must be amazing. > > > *Cockpit view **l**anding through thick cloud* > > > > (Please open to Full Screen) > > > ------------------------------ > Email sent using Optus Webmail > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.