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     1. 06:45 AM - IO-240 B4B: Rough idle and left mag drop (FlyboyTR)
     2. 02:23 PM - Re: IO-240 B4B: Rough idle and left mag drop (Roger Bartholomee)
     3. 07:22 PM - Re: IO-240 B4B: Rough idle and left mag drop (FlyboyTR)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | IO-240 B4B: Rough idle and left mag drop | 
      
      
      My IO-240 now has 425 hours.  In the past it would only drop about 30 RPM on mag
      check at 1,700 RPM.  Even at idle speed there was almost no change in RPM, sound
      or vibration when switching from both to L or R mag.  It has always idled
      extremely smooth at idle on either mag.
      
      Three weeks ago I noticed the engine was idling rough.  On the next flight, I had
      about 120-150 RPM drop on the left mag (@ 1,700 RPM).  The roughness at idle
      has gotten worse.  At idle, the engine will almost die when switched to the
      left mag only...and sounds really ragged!
      
      Here's what I have done so far:
      Cleaned plugs, regapped to .019", pressure tested plugs, tested all eight spark
      plug leads, checked engine timing (off by 2.5 degrees), removed and inspected
      left mag.  No pitting or issues noted with points.  Reinstalled everything, timing
      set to within 1/4 degree ("B" series engine is 26 degrees).   I also removed
      the injectors (for good measure) and give them an hour in the ultrasonic
      parts cleaner.
      
      Engine only drops about 100 RPM on left mag @ 1,700 RPM (better) but still runs
      rough at idle and still will almost die when running only on the left mag at
      idle.  
      
      I am at a loss at this point.  The plugs are still within their wear limits.  I
      have ordered new plugs (Champion RHM38E) just to rule out a plug issue...even
      though they pressure tested perfectly!
      
      Your comments or suggestions would be sincerely appreciated.  Thanks!
      
      Travis :)
      
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      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      ADI-II Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188095#188095
      
      
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| Subject:  | IO-240 B4B: Rough idle and left mag drop | 
      
      
      The first thing to do is run the engine on the bad mag only and find the
      cold cylinder.  If you don't have 4 temp gauges spray wd40 on the exhaust
      pipes to find the 3 hot ones.  Then you can switch the plugs and even the
      wires with one of the good cylinders.  If this doesn't help I would chech
      the compression and look at the exhaust valve if it is low.
      
                               Roger @ MD43  C150-E
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-continental-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-continental-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
      FlyboyTR
      Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:43 AM
      Subject: Continental-List: IO-240 B4B: Rough idle and left mag drop
      
      
      
      My IO-240 now has 425 hours.  In the past it would only drop about 30 RPM on
      mag check at 1,700 RPM.  Even at idle speed there was almost no change in
      RPM, sound or vibration when switching from both to L or R mag.  It has
      always idled extremely smooth at idle on either mag.
      
      Three weeks ago I noticed the engine was idling rough.  On the next flight,
      I had about 120-150 RPM drop on the left mag (@ 1,700 RPM).  The roughness
      at idle has gotten worse.  At idle, the engine will almost die when switched
      to the left mag only...and sounds really ragged!
      
      Here's what I have done so far:
      Cleaned plugs, regapped to .019", pressure tested plugs, tested all eight
      spark plug leads, checked engine timing (off by 2.5 degrees), removed and
      inspected left mag.  No pitting or issues noted with points.  Reinstalled
      everything, timing set to within 1/4 degree ("B" series engine is 26
      degrees).   I also removed the injectors (for good measure) and give them an
      hour in the ultrasonic parts cleaner.
      
      Engine only drops about 100 RPM on left mag @ 1,700 RPM (better) but still
      runs rough at idle and still will almost die when running only on the left
      mag at idle.
      
      I am at a loss at this point.  The plugs are still within their wear limits.
      I have ordered new plugs (Champion RHM38E) just to rule out a plug
      issue...even though they pressure tested perfectly!
      
      Your comments or suggestions would be sincerely appreciated.  Thanks!
      
      Travis :)
      
      --------
      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      ADI-II Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188095#188095
      
      
      Checked by AVG.
      7:20 AM
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: IO-240 B4B: Rough idle and left mag drop | 
      
      
      Roger,
      Thanks for the reply.  I have full cylinder management.  There was less than 30
      degrees between all cylinders while running on the left mag!  I tried at idle,
      1200, 1700 & 2000 RPM.  I tried your suggestion prior to starting with the other
      stuff.
      
      I was sure I could find a cold cylinder.  However...I have not checked for compression
      loss......not sure why!  On my last annual in September, all were 78/80.
      
      
      Travis
      
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      Travis Rayner
      Mobile, AL
      Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
      Continental IO-240,  Prince P-Tip Prop
      ADI-II Autopilot
      AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188217#188217
      
      
 
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