Continental-List Digest Archive

Tue 02/28/12


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:42 AM - Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12 (Zimmermans)
     2. 08:44 AM - Re: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12 (Deems Herring)
     3. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12 (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
     4. 01:08 PM - Re: Re: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12 (BigDog)
     5. 03:19 PM - Re: O 200 CASE SEAL (GLJSOJ1)
     6. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: O 200 CASE SEAL (FLYaDIVE)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:42:21 AM PST US
    From: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
    Subject: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12
    GM #1052943 Gasket Maker works. Aviable at you Chevy dealer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Continental-List Digest Server" <continental-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 1:55 Subject: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Continental-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Continental-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text > editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 12-02-27&Archive=Continental > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 12-02-27&Archive=Continental > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Continental-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 02/27/12: 3 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 03:09 PM - O 200 CASE SEAL (GLENN JOHNSON) > 2. 03:33 PM - Re: O 200 CASE SEAL (F. Tim Yoder) > 3. 03:48 PM - Re: O 200 CASE SEAL (FLYaDIVE) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:09:28 PM PST US > From: GLENN JOHNSON <gljno10@hotmail.com> > Subject: Continental-List: O 200 CASE SEAL > > I have assembled my O 200 and was told by. Aircraft Specialty to use > "Hylom > ar AEROGRADE" and silk thread to put the case together. I now have > several > friends questioning if this is acceptable to use. I called Penn Yan Aero > who has never heard of this. Anybody have any experience with this or shou > ld I rebuild the engine before I start to fly it? > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:33:31 PM PST US > From: "F. Tim Yoder" <ftyoder@yoderbuilt.com> > Subject: Re: Continental-List: O 200 CASE SEAL > > I believe that is what Cont. recommends and that is the system I used in > the early 90's. Hylomar works well on the valve covers also. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: GLENN JOHNSON > To: continental-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:08 PM > Subject: Continental-List: O 200 CASE SEAL > > > I have assembled my O 200 and was told by. Aircraft Specialty to use > "Hylomar AEROGRADE" and silk thread to put the case together. I now > have several friends questioning if this is acceptable to use. I called > Penn Yan Aero who has never heard of this. Anybody have any experience > with this or should I rebuild the engine before I start to fly it? > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:48:46 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Continental-List: O 200 CASE SEAL > From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> > > Glenn: > > That is SCARY! Penn Yan does not know about that process... That is what > happens when you replace OLD FARTS with Young Whipper-Snappers. The > Knowledge goes out the door. > Hylomar AEROGRADE is just one of the High Temp RTV's being used. This is > NOT the High Temp you get at Home Depot. > This is a sealant/adhesive that can handle the Full Range of Temps, The > vibration and The OIL. > As for the silk thread... Well, that is old and not that good a process. > The thread moves - kinks and causes leaks. > It is left out with the new sealant. > Also check out HINKLE Adhesives/Sealants. > Give a call to Continental or Lycomming, they have approved the process > years ago. > > Barry > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:08 PM, GLENN JOHNSON <gljno10@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> I have assembled my O 200 and was told by. Aircraft Specialty to use >> "Hylomar AEROGRADE" and silk thread to put the case together. I now have >> several friends questioning if this is acceptable to use. I called Penn >> Yan Aero who has never heard of this. Anybody have any experience with >> this or should I rebuild the engine before I start to fly it? >> >> ** >> >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >


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    Time: 08:44:56 AM PST US
    From: Deems Herring <dsleepy47@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12
    If your engine has a data plate you can go to http://www.genuinecontinenta l.aero/ and register for customer support. If your engine is still listed u nder a previous owner you will need to call but they are very helpful. Once you are registered you have online access to the current SIL's and SB's ap plicable to your engine. Look at the current revision of SIL 99=2C "CURRENT LISTING OF SEALANTS=2C LUBRICANTS=2C & ADHESIVES AUTHORIZED BY TCM.". Ther e may be thousands of compounds and techniques that work but for things lik e this I see no advantage to deviating from OEM recommendations. Deems > > Time: 03:09:28 PM PST US > > From: GLENN JOHNSON <gljno10@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Continental-List: O 200 CASE SEAL > > > > I have assembled my O 200 and was told by. Aircraft Specialty to use > > "Hylom > > ar AEROGRADE" and silk thread to put the case together. I now have > > several > > friends questioning if this is acceptable to use. I called Penn Yan A ero > > who has never heard of this. Anybody have any experience with this or s hou > > ld I rebuild the engine before I start to fly it?


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    Time: 09:38:02 AM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12
    I have piddled around with Continentals for years but am certainly no expert. I have seen the silk string used many times. I would not disassemble the engine unless you get a leak or problem. The silk thread was accepted practice for decades and while it may not be accepted as modern practice by Penn Yan, it should be fine. BTW I have a problem with PENN YAN never having heard of this. It was done for decades and though they don't do it now. they should have seen and heard of it. Make me suspicious of their experience. Blue Skies, Steve D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Deems Herring <dsleepy47@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Continental-List: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12 > > If your engine has a data plate you can go to > http://www.genuinecontinental.aero/ and register for customer > support. If your engine is still listed under a previous owner you > will need to call but they are very helpful. Once you are > registered you have online access to the current SIL's and SB's > applicable to your engine. Look at the current revision of SIL 99, > "CURRENT LISTING OF SEALANTS, LUBRICANTS, & ADHESIVES AUTHORIZED BY > TCM.". There may be thousands of compounds and techniques that work > but for things like this I see no advantage to deviating from OEM > recommendations.Deems > > > > > Time: 03:09:28 PM PST US > > > From: GLENN JOHNSON < > > > Subject: Continental-List: O 200 CASE SEAL > > > > > > I have assembled my O 200 and was told by. Aircraft Specialty to use > > > "Hylom > > > ar AEROGRADE" and silk thread to put the case together. I now have > > > several > > > friends questioning if this is acceptable to use. I called Penn Yan Aero > > > who has never heard of this. Anybody have any experience with this or shou > > > ld I rebuild the engine before I start to fly it? > >


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    Time: 01:08:19 PM PST US
    From: BigDog <bigdog@bentwing.com>
    Subject: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12
    It's hard to argue with the manufacturer. I had my IO-550B o/h'd not long ago and stopped by the shop when my mechanic was prepping the case halves for assembly. He had the two halves coated with different sealants, one was Permatex (I think) and the other some purple high tech type. Plus there was a silk thread. When I asked he explained that it was specifically called out that way by Continental in the manual. It's too weird for Cont. not to have had a reason. He's a stickler for following the book. RTFM, YMMV, etc... Regards, Greg Young -----Original Message----- From: owner-continental-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-continental-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:38 AM Subject: Re: RE: Continental-List: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12 --> <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> I have piddled around with Continentals for years but am certainly no expert. I have seen the silk string used many times. I would not disassemble the engine unless you get a leak or problem. The silk thread was accepted practice for decades and while it may not be accepted as modern practice by Penn Yan, it should be fine. BTW I have a problem with PENN YAN never having heard of this. It was done for decades and though they don't do it now. they should have seen and heard of it. Make me suspicious of their experience. Blue Skies, Steve D. ----- Original Message ----- From: Deems Herring <dsleepy47@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Continental-List: Re: Continental-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 02/27/12 > > If your engine has a data plate you can go to > http://www.genuinecontinental.aero/ and register for customer support. > If your engine is still listed under a previous owner you will need to > call but they are very helpful. Once you are registered you have > online access to the current SIL's and SB's applicable to your engine. > Look at the current revision of SIL 99, "CURRENT LISTING OF SEALANTS, > LUBRICANTS, & ADHESIVES AUTHORIZED BY TCM.". There may be thousands of > compounds and techniques that work but for things like this I see no > advantage to deviating from OEM recommendations.Deems > > > > > Time: 03:09:28 PM PST US > > > From: GLENN JOHNSON < > > > Subject: Continental-List: O 200 CASE SEAL > > > > > > I have assembled my O 200 and was told by. Aircraft Specialty to use > > > "Hylom > > > ar AEROGRADE" and silk thread to put the case together. I now have > > > several > > > friends questioning if this is acceptable to use. I called Penn Yan Aero > > > who has never heard of this. Anybody have any experience with this or shou > > > ld I rebuild the engine before I start to fly it? > >


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    Time: 03:19:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: O 200 CASE SEAL
    From: "GLJSOJ1" <gljno10@hotmail.com>
    Called TCM today and the whole truth is follow SIL99-2B which calls for loctite 515 as well as permatex #3 with the silk thread. I was told that what happens is the case will not hold the torque on the bolts causing the case to eventually loosen up and we know what happens then. He also said good luck getting it apart! Thanks for all who posted as it lead me to follow my instinct and call the manufacturer -------- 601XL N676L FLYING PHASE I CHESAPEAKE VA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367485#367485


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    Time: 03:46:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: O 200 CASE SEAL
    From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
    I'm sorry, I do not recall; is this engine going on an experimental or a GA aircraft? I'm sure you know where I'm going... My next suggestion would be to call Lycoming or another engine shop and ask what they use? My O-320 Lycoming was assembled at an engine shop with ONLY a RVT sealant/adhesive. This was done back in 2000 and I have not seen any leaks. The FAA does NOT care what sealant you use. And if they did the must have approved a few different sealants for all the different engine manufactures out there. Next point - Since YOU are are the engine shop YOU are the one certifying the engine and you are the one standing behind the warranty. Do what YOU feel works best. As long as it is an approved sealant who cares which one! Only You! Barry On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:18 PM, GLJSOJ1 <gljno10@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Called TCM today and the whole truth is follow SIL99-2B which calls for > loctite 515 as well as permatex #3 with the silk thread. I was told that > what happens is the case will not hold the torque on the bolts causing the > case to eventually loosen up and we know what happens then. He also said > good luck getting it apart! > > Thanks for all who posted as it lead me to follow my instinct and call the > manufacturer > > -------- > 601XL N676L FLYING PHASE I > CHESAPEAKE VA > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367485#367485 > >




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