---------------------------------------------------------- CorvairEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/09/11: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:23 AM - Re: CorvairEngines-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/08/11 (Timothy Willis) 2. 09:29 AM - Re: Re: CorvairEngines-Nickisil (John Bolding) 3. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: CorvairEngines-Nickisil (Craig Payne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:43 AM PST US Subject: CorvairEngines-List: Re: CorvairEngines-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/08/11 From: Timothy Willis Not only are some of the items from MM unavailable, I don't like what I see about their coated aluminum cylinders. Almost all users of aluminum in engine blocks use cast iron inserts. When cast iron is properly honed, with the scratches running around in circles, they hold a slight film of oil, which both seals and lubricates the cylinder-to-ring contact. In contrast, aluminum can gall very easily in such applications, so the user is dependent upon the durability of the coating to prevent this. I'd want to know a lot about the durability in empirical testing. With the fifth bearing, WW's stuff is about as bullet-proof as you can get. If I were building the ideal, I'd go with WW specs, except for using primary and secondary electronic ignition. Others have done variants of this and can speak better to these mods. Tim in central TX On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:55 AM, CorvairEngines-List Digest Server < corvairengines-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:35:01 AM PST US > From: "Steve Dixon" > Subject: Re: CorvairEngines-List: Corvair - where to get one? > > I feel I have to respond to this post to clarify, as I understand it, > the positions Wynne and Magnificent Machine occupy with regard to > Corvair flight engines. I attended the Corvair College about a year ago > held at Magnificent Machine. I am a long time follower of William Wynne > who has devoted a very significant part of his life to the development > of a safe conversion of Corvair engines for use in aircraft. IMHO, > anyone planning to convert a Corvair engine for aircraft use should take > advantage of the testing and research he has done. His book, "Corvair > Flight Engines", contains a wealth of information about Corvair engines > and how to convert them. I wholeheartedly agree with all that has been > said about Magnificent Machine, but they, and others, are only building > on the decades of work that has been done by William Wynne. > > Steve Dixon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MRus597999@aol.com > To: corvairengines-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: CorvairEngines-List: Corvair - where to get one? > > > A better source for good parts, like new cranks, light weight > cylinders, etc is at magnificentmachine.com. I talked to him last > weekend and first met him in Livermore at a Corvair College. Wynne is > good but this guy has got even better stuff. You want fuel injection, > new not used cranks, etc. See this guy, he can build you a bullet proof > engine far stronger than any thing Wynne can build. > > Mike Russell > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:48 AM PST US From: "John Bolding" Subject: Re: CorvairEngines-List: Re: CorvairEngines-Nickisil Nickisil is pretty proven technology, Porsche has used it for 20-30?? yrs in the 911. LOTS of others Got a buddy that has a 2 cyl VW with Nickies that he has flown almost wide open for over 600 hrs. Don't think anyone has flown a Vair with them yet but several will. They save you 18# and that is a LOT of weight, plus they are relatively cheap to replate if you ever wear them out or damage one. Google LN Engineering Here's a little homework for you if interested. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikasil LO&SLO JOHN ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Willis To: corvairengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:15 AM Subject: CorvairEngines-List: Re: CorvairEngines-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/08/11 Not only are some of the items from MM unavailable, I don't like what I see about their coated aluminum cylinders. Almost all users of aluminum in engine blocks use cast iron inserts. When cast iron is properly honed, with the scratches running around in circles, they hold a slight film of oil, which both seals and lubricates the cylinder-to-ring contact. In contrast, aluminum can gall very easily in such applications, so the user is dependent upon the durability of the coating to prevent this. I'd want to know a lot about the durability in empirical testing. With the fifth bearing, WW's stuff is about as bullet-proof as you can get. If I were building the ideal, I'd go with WW specs, except for using primary and secondary electronic ignition. Others have done variants of this and can speak better to these mods. Tim in central TX On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:55 AM, CorvairEngines-List Digest Server wrote: * ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:01 AM PST US From: "Steve Dixon" Subject: Re: CorvairEngines-List: Corvair - where to get one? I feel I have to respond to this post to clarify, as I understand it, the positions Wynne and Magnificent Machine occupy with regard to Corvair flight engines. I attended the Corvair College about a year ago held at Magnificent Machine. I am a long time follower of William Wynne who has devoted a very significant part of his life to the development of a safe conversion of Corvair engines for use in aircraft. IMHO, anyone planning to convert a Corvair engine for aircraft use should take advantage of the testing and research he has done. His book, "Corvair Flight Engines", contains a wealth of information about Corvair engines and how to convert them. I wholeheartedly agree with all that has been said about Magnificent Machine, but they, and others, are only building on the decades of work that has been done by William Wynne. Steve Dixon ----- Original Message ----- From: MRus597999@aol.com To: corvairengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: CorvairEngines-List: Corvair - where to get one? A better source for good parts, like new cranks, light weight cylinders, etc is at magnificentmachine.com. I talked to him last weekend and first met him in Livermore at a Corvair College. Wynne is good but this guy has got even better stuff. You want fuel injection, new not used cranks, etc. See this guy, he can build you a bullet proof engine far stronger than any thing Wynne can build. Mike Russell ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:28 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: CorvairEngines-List: Re: CorvairEngines-Nickisil The Rotax 912 and 914 also use nikasil. -- Craig From: owner-corvairengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-corvairengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Bolding Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:26 AM Subject: Re: CorvairEngines-List: Re: CorvairEngines-Nickisil Nickisil is pretty proven technology, Porsche has used it for 20-30?? yrs in the 911. LOTS of others Got a buddy that has a 2 cyl VW with Nickies that he has flown almost wide open for over 600 hrs. Don't think anyone has flown a Vair with them yet but several will. They save you 18# and that is a LOT of weight, plus they are relatively cheap to replate if you ever wear them out or damage one. Google LN Engineering Here's a little homework for you if interested. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikasil LO&SLO JOHN ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Willis Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:15 AM Subject: CorvairEngines-List: Re: CorvairEngines-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/08/11 Not only are some of the items from MM unavailable, I don't like what I see about their coated aluminum cylinders. Almost all users of aluminum in engine blocks use cast iron inserts. When cast iron is properly honed, with the scratches running around in circles, they hold a slight film of oil, which both seals and lubricates the cylinder-to-ring contact. In contrast, aluminum can gall very easily in such applications, so the user is dependent upon the durability of the coating to prevent this. I'd want to know a lot about the durability in empirical testing. With the fifth bearing, WW's stuff is about as bullet-proof as you can get. If I were building the ideal, I'd go with WW specs, except for using primary and secondary electronic ignition. Others have done variants of this and can speak better to these mods. Tim in central TX On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:55 AM, CorvairEngines-List Digest Server wrote: * ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:01 AM PST US From: "Steve Dixon" Subject: Re: CorvairEngines-List: Corvair - where to get one? I feel I have to respond to this post to clarify, as I understand it, the positions Wynne and Magnificent Machine occupy with regard to Corvair flight engines. I attended the Corvair College about a year ago held at Magnificent Machine. I am a long time follower of William Wynne who has devoted a very significant part of his life to the development of a safe conversion of Corvair engines for use in aircraft. IMHO, anyone planning to convert a Corvair engine for aircraft use should take advantage of the testing and research he has done. His book, "Corvair Flight Engines", contains a wealth of information about Corvair engines and how to convert them. I wholeheartedly agree with all that has been said about Magnificent Machine, but they, and others, are only building on the decades of work that has been done by William Wynne. Steve Dixon ----- Original Message ----- From: MRus597999@aol.com To: corvairengines-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: Re: CorvairEngines-List: Corvair - where to get one? A better source for good parts, like new cranks, light weight cylinders, etc is at magnificentmachine.com . I talked to him last weekend and first met him in Livermore at a Corvair College. Wynne is good but this guy has got even better stuff. You want fuel injection, new not used cranks, etc. See this guy, he can build you a bullet proof engine far stronger than any thing Wynne can build. 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