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--> Cub-List message posted by: zoperman@att.net
This is good info.I'll spend the money and get the struts.
I know about stitts process, and I favor the poly tone type as I have seen
the need for easy repair on a floatplane.
I had a 7ccm champ on these edo's, loved it,but the time came to overhaul
it and it was wrecked by the fool who worked on it, and he gave me this cub. I
took the rating in a cub at Flagler Beach, and I didn't even remember it untill
the 1300 gross was mentioned.I remember we had to get some addition wrong to
stay under the 1300. I like light weight, every ounce counts.
Off the record, what might a cub lift in gross weight? We, of course,
would never violate an FAR, but I'll bet someone has heard. Del.
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> 1. 05:44 AM - struts (zoperman@att.net)
> 2. 05:44 AM - struts (zoperman@att.net)
> 3. 05:48 AM - struts (zoperman@att.net)
> 4. 07:14 AM - Re: lift struts & fabric finishes (Rick Lutes)
> 5. 07:28 AM - Re: struts (Rick Lutes)
> 6. 08:15 AM - Re: struts (James Kale)
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> From: zoperman@att.net
> Subject: Cub-List: struts
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> From: zoperman@att.net
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> Time: 05:48:26 AM PST US
> From: zoperman@att.net
> Subject: Cub-List: struts
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> Thanks Jim. 1170 lbs gross weight, I may have the wrong airplane. I put it
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> on floats, I'll have to put a remote control kit in it to stay under.Del.
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> Time: 07:14:14 AM PST US
> From: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@owc.net>
> Subject: Re: Cub-List: lift struts & fabric finishes
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> --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@owc.net>
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> Hi Del,
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> I like Jim's solution to the lift strut inspection required by AD 99-01-05,
> although it does take a little more time (to exchange struts and inspect the
> struts and forks) than spending the money to install sealed struts and
> accepting the aesthetics of the large forks. There are certainly a lot of
> used, serviceable, small fork struts lying around that could be had for
> little cost. It's nice to have the choice on how to comply with the AD.
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> If you don't have access to a regulatory CD, The FAA web-site
> http://www2.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/ is a easy way to look at AD's
> (post-1940) and Type Certificate Data Sheets.
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> As far as choice of finishes, I'm not familiar with any water based coatings
> that have held up over time. I have heard of & seen some that do not look
> good after a few years. I would not consider using a "new" process for
> finishing unless I can see proof of what it will look like after 10 years &
> some exposure to the sun.
> Seaplanes present a challenge where it may not be practical to keep them in
> a hangar, so their exposure to sun & weather is increased compared to a land
> plane or amphib. I would keep this in mind when choosing finishes for a
> potential floatplane.
> FWIW, the Air-Tech Coatings finishes are looking very good and hold up
> well. I see it used on AgCats that stay shiny through harsh exposure to
> chemicals & cleaners, and I see it used on award winning show planes (very
> particular owners). I've not heard anything bad about Air-Tech. That said,
> I've always liked Randolph products too.
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> Rick
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> From: <zoperman@att.net>
> Subject: Cub-List: lift struts
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> > I am trying to find out about cub lift struts, I see big fork ends,
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> > ones, and sealed struts to replace standard ones. I know the APIA I use
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> > know all, but for now-.
> > Thanks for the float rigging help. I 'm looking for used rigging all
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> > up.I have champ rigging on the 1400's now.
> > I have 41 cub project, with metal spar wings. Nothing in the logbook
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> > the switch. The wings punched 55 lbs, but further inspection revieled that
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> > wings were full of fiberglass insulation,mouse turds, and grass seed, And
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> > course, the ribstiching was chewed in two all over . And to make the
> recover
> > decision final, the whole airplane is done up to aerothane, without any
> silver
> > at all. Saving a little money, the guy said.
> > To recover it, put a c90 and wing tank in it, and onto floats is the
> goal.
> > I an leaning toward the waterborn coating system by Aircraft Finishing
> > Systems.Anyone seen it. Supposed to be glossy and east to repair,uses
> ceconite
> > fabric.
> > I joined the cub club and ordered a load of info. Later.
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> Time: 07:28:12 AM PST US
> From: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@owc.net>
> Subject: Re: Cub-List: struts
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> --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@owc.net>
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> Del,
> The gross weight goes up to 1300 lbs when you put on floats. The C.G. range
> changes too (depending on the type of floats). You can read about it in the
> Type Certificate Data Sheet.
> FWIW, A friends C90 powered J3 weighs 900 lbs empty, with 1400's installed.
> It really pays off to keep the airplane light. You'll appreciate it
> everytime you break free of the water on take-off!
> Rick
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> Subject: Cub-List: struts
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> > Thanks Jim. 1170 lbs gross weight, I may have the wrong airplane. I
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> From: James Kale <kale@snowhill.com>
> Subject: Re: Cub-List: struts
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> --> Cub-List message posted by: James Kale <kale@snowhill.com>
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> The sea plane may have different Gross Weights, need to check the type
> certificate data sheet. My wheel airplane weighed about 670 lbs. with fuel.
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> Jim
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