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1. 06:26 AM - Re: partnerships (Rick Lutes)
2. 06:37 AM - Re: new to list (Rick Lutes)
3. 02:04 PM - Re: new to list (Phil Phillips)
4. 03:49 PM - Re: partnerships (William Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: partnerships |
--> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
Bill,
Thanks for the reply & sound advise on partnerships. Sounds like you have a
great one! With two of you having other "traveling" airplanes, it may take
the implied pressure off having the group-owned airplane available. An RV is
a wonderful complement to a Cub. Both have wonderful, though very different,
flying qualities and performance ranges. My wife and I own a older RV-4
also.
Three partners may also be the best number for insurance expense too. Most
of the quotes I've gotten really jump in price if there are more than three
"named" pilots.
How's the 75 hp do with two people in the Clip-wing? Would it be adequate at
a 1000 ft elevation airport? Is yours a Reed or a metal spar?
Best,
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net>
Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
> --> Cub-List message posted by: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net>
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Wish our clip wing had the 0-200. It's got thee-75 but it's a lot of fun
and
> we love it. It may be the only Cub around with brand new expander tube
> brakes. We were lucky enough to stumble on to a new set when one of the
> expander tubes blew. Two of us partners have other airplanes (RV's), the
> third (Rebecca) just flies the Cub. We are all very compatible, it works
out
> fine. I do think that any more than 3 would get cumbersome.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
> To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
>
>
> > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
> >
> > Hi Phil & Bill,
> > I can't answer why, but for some reason this is one of the quieter lists
> of
> > the Matronics groups. I wish there was more activity here because I'm
> > comfortable with the way the Matronics lists work (Matt does a great job
> > making it happen). The RV lists on Matronics are extremely popular.
> > There is more cub/old piper activity on the Yahoo list:
> > piper-cub-builders@yahoogroups.com . It's kind of a pain to sign up, but
> > there are some good discussions and helpful contributors there.
> >
> > Where are you based Phil?
> >
> > Bill, I've always been fascinated by clip-wings. I flew in a 100 HP one
in
> > California years ago & just loved it. Where is yours based and how do
you
> > like having partner's in on it? Do you have any advise to someone
looking
> to
> > start a partnership on a low & slow airplane?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rick
> > Hampshire, IL
> > '46 J-3 on EDO 1400's
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net>
> > To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
> >
> >
> > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "William Davis"
> <rvpilot@access4less.net>
> > >
> > > Hey Phil,
> > >
> > > I signed up for this list more than a month ago and yours is the first
> > > message I have seen There really is life out there.
> > >
> > > I (and partners) own a 39 clip wing J-3.
> > >
> > > Bill Davis
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Phil Phillips" <pphillips@kalama.com>
> > > To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Cub-List: new to list
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Phil Phillips"
<pphillips@kalama.com>
> > > >
> > > > I am a new member to this list. I own a piper J-5, and am
interested
> in
> > > information and discussion relative to the older piper cub models.
> > > >
> > > > Phil Phillips
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
Hi Phil,
Sounds like perfect Cub country!. I hope to vacation in the Pacific
Northwest more in future summers.
What do you find to be best features of a J-5 over a J-3? I've never been in
a J-5, but have looked a few. How's it compare to a PA-12?
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Phillips" <pphillips@kalama.com>
Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
> --> Cub-List message posted by: "Phil Phillips" <pphillips@kalama.com>
>
> Thanks for the reply. I am in Kalama, Wa. which is about 30 miles North
of
> Portland Oregon. I have had J-5s for about 20 years. I have neaver flown
> any theing that is more fun to fly. It is ideal for this country.
>
> I agree about other list. I have been on the Pietenpol list and the
average
> day is 20 to 25 messages.
>
> Phil Phillips
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
> To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
>
>
> > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes"
>
>
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--> Cub-List message posted by: "Phil Phillips" <pphillips@kalama.com>
The two features I like best over the J-3 are;
1. You solo the J-5 from the front seat.
2. The wide rear seat allows carrying two passengers if the need arises.
The normal flight characteristics of the J-5 are like the PA-12. It does
not have flaps but it slips easily. You can come down like an elevator, for
short fields, with the slip. If I ever replace the engine, I will go with a
larger one. The 85 HP does a fine job, but a few more horsepower would
help.
All in all, the J-5 is just a fun airplane for beating around in the hills.
If you ever get to this area, you have a place to stay for sight seeing. I
am 20 miles from Mt. St. Helens, one hour from the coast, and one hour from
the desert.
Phil Phillips
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
> --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
>
> Hi Phil,
> Sounds like perfect Cub country!. I hope to vacation in the Pacific
> Northwest more in future summers.
> What do you find to be best features of a J-5 over a J-3? I've never been
in
> a J-5, but have looked a few. How's it compare to a PA-12?
> Rick
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Phillips" <pphillips@kalama.com>
> To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
>
>
> > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Phil Phillips" <pphillips@kalama.com>
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. I am in Kalama, Wa. which is about 30 miles North
> of
> > Portland Oregon. I have had J-5s for about 20 years. I have neaver
flown
> > any theing that is more fun to fly. It is ideal for this country.
> >
> > I agree about other list. I have been on the Pietenpol list and the
> average
> > day is 20 to 25 messages.
> >
> > Phil Phillips
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
> > To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
> >
> >
> > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes"
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: partnerships |
--> Cub-List message posted by: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net>
Rick,
The 75 HP does OK with two as long as one is not a heavy. We are at 170' msl
here in FL and that helps. I think it would be OK at 1000' but not much
more. The C-85 or O-200 would be better of course. Ours is a Reed
conversion on a 1939 wood spar.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
Subject: Re: Cub-List: partnerships
> --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
>
> Bill,
> Thanks for the reply & sound advise on partnerships. Sounds like you have
a
> great one! With two of you having other "traveling" airplanes, it may
take
> the implied pressure off having the group-owned airplane available. An RV
is
> a wonderful complement to a Cub. Both have wonderful, though very
different,
> flying qualities and performance ranges. My wife and I own a older RV-4
> also.
> Three partners may also be the best number for insurance expense too. Most
> of the quotes I've gotten really jump in price if there are more than
three
> "named" pilots.
> How's the 75 hp do with two people in the Clip-wing? Would it be adequate
at
> a 1000 ft elevation airport? Is yours a Reed or a metal spar?
> Best,
> Rick
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net>
> To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
>
>
> > --> Cub-List message posted by: "William Davis"
<rvpilot@access4less.net>
> >
> > Hi Rick,
> >
> > Wish our clip wing had the 0-200. It's got thee-75 but it's a lot of fun
> and
> > we love it. It may be the only Cub around with brand new expander tube
> > brakes. We were lucky enough to stumble on to a new set when one of the
> > expander tubes blew. Two of us partners have other airplanes (RV's),
the
> > third (Rebecca) just flies the Cub. We are all very compatible, it works
> out
> > fine. I do think that any more than 3 would get cumbersome.
> >
> > Bill
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
> > To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
> >
> >
> > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" <rlutes@fvi.net>
> > >
> > > Hi Phil & Bill,
> > > I can't answer why, but for some reason this is one of the quieter
lists
> > of
> > > the Matronics groups. I wish there was more activity here because I'm
> > > comfortable with the way the Matronics lists work (Matt does a great
job
> > > making it happen). The RV lists on Matronics are extremely popular.
> > > There is more cub/old piper activity on the Yahoo list:
> > > piper-cub-builders@yahoogroups.com . It's kind of a pain to sign up,
but
> > > there are some good discussions and helpful contributors there.
> > >
> > > Where are you based Phil?
> > >
> > > Bill, I've always been fascinated by clip-wings. I flew in a 100 HP
one
> in
> > > California years ago & just loved it. Where is yours based and how do
> you
> > > like having partner's in on it? Do you have any advise to someone
> looking
> > to
> > > start a partnership on a low & slow airplane?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rick
> > > Hampshire, IL
> > > '46 J-3 on EDO 1400's
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "William Davis" <rvpilot@access4less.net>
> > > To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "William Davis"
> > <rvpilot@access4less.net>
> > > >
> > > > Hey Phil,
> > > >
> > > > I signed up for this list more than a month ago and yours is the
first
> > > > message I have seen There really is life out there.
> > > >
> > > > I (and partners) own a 39 clip wing J-3.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Davis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Phil Phillips" <pphillips@kalama.com>
> > > > To: <cub-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: Cub-List: new to list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Phil Phillips"
> <pphillips@kalama.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a new member to this list. I own a piper J-5, and am
> interested
> > in
> > > > information and discussion relative to the older piper cub models.
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil Phillips
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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