---------------------------------------------------------- Cub-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/30/04: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:42 AM - Re: partnerships (Rick Lutes) 2. 05:05 AM - Re: new to list (Rick Lutes) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:32 AM PST US From: "Rick Lutes" Subject: Re: Cub-List: partnerships --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" Thanks Bill, Sounds like a fun airplane! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Davis" Subject: Re: Cub-List: partnerships > --> Cub-List message posted by: "William Davis" > > Rick, > > The 75 HP does OK with two as long as one is not a heavy. We are at 170' msl > here in FL and that helps. I think it would be OK at 1000' but not much > more. The C-85 or O-200 would be better of course. Ours is a Reed > conversion on a 1939 wood spar. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Lutes" > To: > Subject: Re: Cub-List: partnerships > > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" > > > > Bill, > > Thanks for the reply & sound advise on partnerships. Sounds like you have > a > > great one! With two of you having other "traveling" airplanes, it may > take > > the implied pressure off having the group-owned airplane available. An RV > is > > a wonderful complement to a Cub. Both have wonderful, though very > different, > > flying qualities and performance ranges. My wife and I own a older RV-4 > > also. > > Three partners may also be the best number for insurance expense too. Most > > of the quotes I've gotten really jump in price if there are more than > three > > "named" pilots. > > How's the 75 hp do with two people in the Clip-wing? Would it be adequate > at > > a 1000 ft elevation airport? Is yours a Reed or a metal spar? > > Best, > > Rick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Davis" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list > > > > > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "William Davis" > > > > > > > Hi Rick, > > > > > > Wish our clip wing had the 0-200. It's got thee-75 but it's a lot of fun > > and > > > we love it. It may be the only Cub around with brand new expander tube > > > brakes. We were lucky enough to stumble on to a new set when one of the > > > expander tubes blew. Two of us partners have other airplanes (RV's), > the > > > third (Rebecca) just flies the Cub. We are all very compatible, it works > > out > > > fine. I do think that any more than 3 would get cumbersome. > > > > > > Bill > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rick Lutes" > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list > > > > > > > > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" > > > > > > > > Hi Phil & Bill, > > > > I can't answer why, but for some reason this is one of the quieter > lists > > > of > > > > the Matronics groups. I wish there was more activity here because I'm > > > > comfortable with the way the Matronics lists work (Matt does a great > job > > > > making it happen). The RV lists on Matronics are extremely popular. > > > > There is more cub/old piper activity on the Yahoo list: > > > > piper-cub-builders@yahoogroups.com . It's kind of a pain to sign up, > but > > > > there are some good discussions and helpful contributors there. > > > > > > > > Where are you based Phil? > > > > > > > > Bill, I've always been fascinated by clip-wings. I flew in a 100 HP > one > > in > > > > California years ago & just loved it. Where is yours based and how do > > you > > > > like having partner's in on it? Do you have any advise to someone > > looking > > > to > > > > start a partnership on a low & slow airplane? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rick > > > > Hampshire, IL > > > > '46 J-3 on EDO 1400's > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "William Davis" > > > > To: > > > > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "William Davis" > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Phil, > > > > > > > > > > I signed up for this list more than a month ago and yours is the > first > > > > > message I have seen There really is life out there. > > > > > > > > > > I (and partners) own a 39 clip wing J-3. > > > > > > > > > > Bill Davis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Phil Phillips" > > > > > To: > > > > > Subject: Cub-List: new to list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Phil Phillips" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a new member to this list. I own a piper J-5, and am > > interested > > > in > > > > > information and discussion relative to the older piper cub models. > > > > > > > > > > > > Phil Phillips > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:42 AM PST US From: "Rick Lutes" Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" Phil, Thanks for the info and invitation! Sounds like a beautiful place to live. If I get through there I'll drop you a line and look you up. Same invite goes to you if your ever in Northern Illinois. We live on a strip one hour south of OSH. No majestic mountains, just a lot of corn and soybean fields! FWIW, I'm real happy with the C85-8 on our Cub. It has a O-200 crankshaft STC and a 40" pitch prop (for seaplane ops.). It's a real hoot on wheels with that engine and prop. Have fun! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Phillips" Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Phil Phillips" > > The two features I like best over the J-3 are; > 1. You solo the J-5 from the front seat. > 2. The wide rear seat allows carrying two passengers if the need arises. > > The normal flight characteristics of the J-5 are like the PA-12. It does > not have flaps but it slips easily. You can come down like an elevator, for > short fields, with the slip. If I ever replace the engine, I will go with a > larger one. The 85 HP does a fine job, but a few more horsepower would > help. > > All in all, the J-5 is just a fun airplane for beating around in the hills. > > If you ever get to this area, you have a place to stay for sight seeing. I > am 20 miles from Mt. St. Helens, one hour from the coast, and one hour from > the desert. > > Phil Phillips > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Lutes" > To: > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list > > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" > > > > Hi Phil, > > Sounds like perfect Cub country!. I hope to vacation in the Pacific > > Northwest more in future summers. > > What do you find to be best features of a J-5 over a J-3? I've never been > in > > a J-5, but have looked a few. How's it compare to a PA-12? > > Rick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phil Phillips" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list > > > > > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Phil Phillips" > > > > > > Thanks for the reply. I am in Kalama, Wa. which is about 30 miles North > > of > > > Portland Oregon. I have had J-5s for about 20 years. I have neaver > flown > > > any theing that is more fun to fly. It is ideal for this country. > > > > > > I agree about other list. I have been on the Pietenpol list and the > > average > > > day is 20 to 25 messages. > > > > > > Phil Phillips > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Rick Lutes" > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: Cub-List: new to list > > > > > > > > > > --> Cub-List message posted by: "Rick Lutes" > > > > > > > > > > > >