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Sat 12/21/13


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:50 AM - Plans? (Dylan Caldwell)
     2. 06:36 AM - Re: Plans? (Oliver Coolidge)
     3. 07:21 AM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
     4. 08:08 AM - Re: Plans? (Oliver Coolidge)
     5. 08:14 AM - Re: Plans? (Nancy and Randy)
     6. 09:33 AM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
     7. 09:34 AM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
     8. 01:22 PM - Re: Plans? (Oliver Coolidge)
     9. 04:09 PM - Re: Plans? (Rob Ray)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:50:12 AM PST US
    From: Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com>
    Subject: Plans?
    Hello, All, Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing to sell? Thanks much, Dylan


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    Time: 06:36:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans?
    From: Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com>
    Where are you located? Have you asked John Harmon? Oliver Typing with my thumbs On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:48 AM, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote: > > > Hello, All, > Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing to sell? > Thanks much, > Dylan > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:21:08 AM PST US
    From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Plans?
    Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah! Merry Christmas Y"all! Smokey Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote: > > > > Hello, All, > Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing to sell? > Thanks much, > Dylan > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:08:38 AM PST US
    From: Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Plans?
    Smokey, Have you built one??? Oliver Typing with my thumbs On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah! > > Merry Christmas Y"all! > Smokey > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, All, >> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing to sell? >> Thanks much, >> Dylan > > > > >


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    Time: 08:14:26 AM PST US
    From: "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Plans?
    Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about aerobatics in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise? Thanks, Tailwinds and blue skies, Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans? > > Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? > Yeah! > > Merry Christmas Y"all! > Smokey > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, All, >> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be >> willing to sell? >> Thanks much, >> Dylan >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 09:33:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans?
    From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
    Hi Randy! Yes sir, I've spun my HR2 many times. Depending on configuration and fuel load, most Harmon Rockets I have flown are nose heavy, compared to a light nose RV4 or my RVX. Therefore spin entry and characteristics are very straightforward. My normal entry consisted of a level flight slow reduction in power while simultaneously increasing pitch back pressure where idle power was reached just above clean wing stall speed. (My Rocket has a very heavy nose approaching stall requiring full aft stick with the stock RV4 Emp to maintain a level pitch.) Full stall is characterized by a light tail /wing buffet and nose pitching down slightly. You can actually apply full power at this point and hold full aft stick and it will buck and pitch but hold altitude in the stall! The cylinders and oil temp will eventually heat up but an amazing capability, very similar to the F16. Spin entry requires idle power, full aft stick and full rudder deflection at stall which causes a fairly nose low entry followed by rotation, approx 1.5 turns/sec. Aileron into the direction of spin greatly increases the spin rotation speed. Recovery is also very straightforward. Neutralize aft stick to slightly pitch down while simultaneously applying opposite rudder will stop rotation in approximate 1-2 turns. Other Rocket aerobatics are equally energetic and straightforward. Fun! Email me offline anytime: Smokyray@rocketmail.com Merry Christmas! Smokey PS: If I still owned it I would have lightened the nose and airframe significantly with a Catto FP 3 blade, minimal avionics and accessories out front, light sump, starter and accessory case alternator, like my RVX! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:14, "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about aerobatics in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise? > > Thanks, > Tailwinds and blue skies, > Randy > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com> > To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans? > > >> >> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah! >> >> Merry Christmas Y"all! >> Smokey >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, All, >>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing to sell? >>> Thanks much, >>> Dylan > > > > >


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    Time: 09:34:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans?
    From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
    No sir, I built an RV4 and my current RVX. I rebuilt my HR2 :) Smokey Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:08, Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Smokey, > Have you built one??? > > Oliver > Typing with my thumbs > >> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah! >> >> Merry Christmas Y"all! >> Smokey >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, All, >>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing to sell? >>> Thanks much, >>> Dylan > > > > >


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    Time: 01:22:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans?
    From: Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com>
    Is an RVX an RV-10? I'm negotiating on a Harmon kit, haven't heard of an RVX. Oliver Typing with my thumbs On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Randy! > > Yes sir, I've spun my HR2 many times. > > Depending on configuration and fuel load, most Harmon Rockets I have flown are nose heavy, compared to a light nose RV4 or my RVX. Therefore spin entry and characteristics are very straightforward. My normal entry consisted of a level flight slow reduction in power while simultaneously increasing pitch back pressure where idle power was reached just above clean wing stall speed. (My Rocket has a very heavy nose approaching stall requiring full aft stick with the stock RV4 Emp to maintain a level pitch.) Full stall is characterized by a light tail /wing buffet and nose pitching down slightly. You can actually apply full power at this point and hold full aft stick and it will buck and pitch but hold altitude in the stall! The cylinders and oil temp will eventually heat up but an amazing capability, very similar to the F16. > Spin entry requires idle power, full aft stick and full rudder deflection at stall which causes a fairly nose low entry followed by rotation, approx 1.5 turns/sec. Aileron into the direction of spin greatly increases the spin rotation speed. Recovery is also very straightforward. Neutralize aft stick to slightly pitch down while simultaneously applying opposite rudder will stop rotation in approximate 1-2 turns. Other Rocket aerobatics are equally energetic and straightforward. > > Fun! > > Email me offline anytime: > Smokyray@rocketmail.com > > Merry Christmas! > Smokey > > PS: If I still owned it I would have lightened the nose and airframe significantly with a Catto FP 3 blade, minimal avionics and accessories out front, light sump, starter and accessory case alternator, like my RVX! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:14, "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >> Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about aerobatics in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise? >> >> Thanks, >> Tailwinds and blue skies, >> Randy >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com> >> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM >> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans? >> >> >>> >>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah! >>> >>> Merry Christmas Y"all! >>> Smokey >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, All, >>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing to sell? >>>> Thanks much, >>>> Dylan > > > > >


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    Time: 04:09:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Plans?
    From: Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com>
    Hey Oliver, I built a one of a kind airplane from 2 projects. RV4 wings/tail, Rv6 fuselage. Rocket plans used to mate wings. Flies great... Smokey Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2013, at 16:21, Oliver Coolidge <olivercoolidge@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Is an RVX an RV-10? > I'm negotiating on a Harmon kit, haven't heard of an RVX. > > Oliver > Typing with my thumbs > >> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Rob Ray <smokyray@rocketmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Randy! >> >> Yes sir, I've spun my HR2 many times. >> >> Depending on configuration and fuel load, most Harmon Rockets I have flown are nose heavy, compared to a light nose RV4 or my RVX. Therefore spin entry and characteristics are very straightforward. My normal entry consisted of a level flight slow reduction in power while simultaneously increasing pitch back pressure where idle power was reached just above clean wing stall speed. (My Rocket has a very heavy nose approaching stall requiring full aft stick with the stock RV4 Emp to maintain a level pitch.) Full stall is characterized by a light tail /wing buffet and nose pitching down slightly. You can actually apply full power at this point and hold full aft stick and it will buck and pitch but hold altitude in the stall! The cylinders and oil temp will eventually heat up but an amazing capability, very similar to the F16. >> Spin entry requires idle power, full aft stick and full rudder deflection at stall which causes a fairly nose low entry followed by rotation, approx 1.5 turns/sec. Aileron into the direction of spin greatly increases the spin rotation speed. Recovery is also very straightforward. Neutralize aft stick to slightly pitch down while simultaneously applying opposite rudder will stop rotation in approximate 1-2 turns. Other Rocket aerobatics are equally energetic and straightforward. >> >> Fun! >> >> Email me offline anytime: >> Smokyray@rocketmail.com >> >> Merry Christmas! >> Smokey >> >> PS: If I still owned it I would have lightened the nose and airframe significantly with a Catto FP 3 blade, minimal avionics and accessories out front, light sump, starter and accessory case alternator, like my RVX! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:14, "Nancy and Randy" <nrsage86@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Smokey, Merry Christmas! Still getting my Rocket up to speed; plan to actually fly it shortly after the new year. I have been meaning to ask you about aerobatics in the Rocket---especially spins. Do you have any words to the wise? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tailwinds and blue skies, >>> Randy >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Ray" <smokyray@rocketmail.com> >>> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:20 AM >>> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: Plans? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Wow, a Rocket list message! Even better, someone wanting to build one? Yeah! >>>> >>>> Merry Christmas Y"all! >>>> Smokey >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 7:48, Dylan Caldwell <macquistan@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, All, >>>>> Does anyone have a set of plans for the Harmon Rocket that they would be willing to sell? >>>>> Thanks much, >>>>> Dylan > > > > >




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