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     1. 12:30 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/09/20 (Frederick Slyfield)
     2. 12:30 PM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/09/20 (Frederick Slyfield)
     3. 12:38 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/09/20 (Richard Hess)
     4. 10:31 PM - Re: Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/09/20 (Walter Lannon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:30:04 PM PST US
    From: Frederick Slyfield <norske.fly@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/09/20
    Did anyone address just how and where to service the Chinese compass unit on the Nanchang? I think Justin and Walt were batting that back and forth. I tinkered with mine (and examined a spare that I have) and I can't tell if it actually has compass fluid in it, or where in tarnation you'd put it. Any suggestions? Skip Slyfield N75480 On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:54 AM Yak-List Digest Server < yak-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 20-05-09&Archive=Yak > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 20-05-09&Archive=Yak > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 05/09/20: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 10:29 AM - Re: tach generator upkeep (Justin Drafts) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:29:53 AM PST US > From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep > > Epilogue to my tachometer troubles... > > After chasing wires and cleaning connections, I finally disassembled & > thoroughly cleaned my hitherto-exposed cannon plug on the Chinese tach > generator in the engine compartment. > Redressing the wire run and c.plug with oil resistant tape, it's run like a > champ for the last 4 flights. > Fwd and aft gauges in perfect synch. > > So, I'm calling the system fixed. > Thx for all the inputs- > Justin > N280NC > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 10:29 AM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Great info, thanks... > > (Mine is the small, engine-mounted variety) > > Justin > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 9:44 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > >> Justin; > >> > >> If you have the later ENGINE mounted Tach. gen. re-greasing of the > >> bearings would be likely a 300-500 hr. unit > >> overhaul function. > >> > >> If you have the original FIREWALL mounted, cable driven unit, just > throw > >> it away and get the later one from Doug Sapp. > >> > >> Cheers; > >> Walt > >> *From:* Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> > >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2020 4:49 PM > >> *To:* Tom Elliott <N13472@aol.com> > >> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep > >> > >> Ok- > >> Any experiences(s) with a good lube/grease for the tach gen bearings? > >> Justin > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 1:26 PM Tom Elliott <n13472@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Note it reads Engine RPM not prop > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Tom Elliott > >>> > >>> CJ-6A NX63727 > >>> > >>> 777 Quartz Ave > >>> > >>> PMB 7004 > >>> > >>> Sandy Valley NV. > >>> > >>> 89019 > >>> > >>> Cell 541-297-5497 > >>> > >>> N13472@AOL.COM > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > >>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Justin Drafts > >>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2020 8:48 AM > >>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > >>> *Subject:* Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Morning all, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Fast question re: the Housai's tiny tach generator for prop rpm > >>> indication. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> In the midst of my cond insp, and the RPA checklist notes the tach gen > >>> should be removed and "disassembled and bearings repacked with grease." > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I've yet to disassemble one. > >>> > >>> Where are these bearings (ie- how get to them)? > >>> > >>> What grease have y'all successfully used? > >>> > >>> Tach gen maint tips & thoughts much appreciated... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Justin Drafts > >>> > >>> N280NC > >>> > >>> Seattle > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. > >>> www.avg.com > >>> < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > > > >>> > >> > >


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    Time: 12:30:30 PM PST US
    From: Frederick Slyfield <norske.fly@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/09/20
    Did anyone address just how and where to service the Chinese compass unit on the Nanchang? I think Justin and Walt were batting that back and forth. I tinkered with mine (and examined a spare that I have) and I can't tell if it actually has compass fluid in it, or where in tarnation you'd put it. Any suggestions? Skip Slyfield N75480 On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:54 AM Yak-List Digest Server < yak-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 20-05-09&Archive=Yak > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 20-05-09&Archive=Yak > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 05/09/20: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 10:29 AM - Re: tach generator upkeep (Justin Drafts) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:29:53 AM PST US > From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> > Subject: Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep > > Epilogue to my tachometer troubles... > > After chasing wires and cleaning connections, I finally disassembled & > thoroughly cleaned my hitherto-exposed cannon plug on the Chinese tach > generator in the engine compartment. > Redressing the wire run and c.plug with oil resistant tape, it's run like a > champ for the last 4 flights. > Fwd and aft gauges in perfect synch. > > So, I'm calling the system fixed. > Thx for all the inputs- > Justin > N280NC > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 10:29 AM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Great info, thanks... > > (Mine is the small, engine-mounted variety) > > Justin > > > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 9:44 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > >> Justin; > >> > >> If you have the later ENGINE mounted Tach. gen. re-greasing of the > >> bearings would be likely a 300-500 hr. unit > >> overhaul function. > >> > >> If you have the original FIREWALL mounted, cable driven unit, just > throw > >> it away and get the later one from Doug Sapp. > >> > >> Cheers; > >> Walt > >> *From:* Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> > >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2020 4:49 PM > >> *To:* Tom Elliott <N13472@aol.com> > >> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep > >> > >> Ok- > >> Any experiences(s) with a good lube/grease for the tach gen bearings? > >> Justin > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 1:26 PM Tom Elliott <n13472@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Note it reads Engine RPM not prop > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Tom Elliott > >>> > >>> CJ-6A NX63727 > >>> > >>> 777 Quartz Ave > >>> > >>> PMB 7004 > >>> > >>> Sandy Valley NV. > >>> > >>> 89019 > >>> > >>> Cell 541-297-5497 > >>> > >>> N13472@AOL.COM > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > >>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Justin Drafts > >>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2020 8:48 AM > >>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com > >>> *Subject:* Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Morning all, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Fast question re: the Housai's tiny tach generator for prop rpm > >>> indication. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> In the midst of my cond insp, and the RPA checklist notes the tach gen > >>> should be removed and "disassembled and bearings repacked with grease." > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I've yet to disassemble one. > >>> > >>> Where are these bearings (ie- how get to them)? > >>> > >>> What grease have y'all successfully used? > >>> > >>> Tach gen maint tips & thoughts much appreciated... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Justin Drafts > >>> > >>> N280NC > >>> > >>> Seattle > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > Virus-free. > >>> www.avg.com > >>> < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient > > > >>> > >> > >


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    Time: 12:38:11 PM PST US
    From: Richard Hess <hess737@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/09/20
    I replaced mine with a US unit for that very reason. Richard Hess C 404-964-4885 > On May 10, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Frederick Slyfield <norske.fly@gmail.com> wro te: > > =EF=BB > Did anyone address just how and where to service the Chinese compass unit o n the Nanchang? I think Justin and Walt were batting that back and forth. I t inkered with mine (and examined a spare that I have) and I can't tell if it a ctually has compass fluid in it, or where in tarnation you'd put it. Any sug gestions? > > Skip Slyfield > N75480 > >> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:54 AM Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list@matroni cs.com> wrote: >> * >> >> ======================== >> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive >> ======================== >> >> Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the >> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted >> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes >> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version >> of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor >> such as Notepad or with a web browser. >> >> HTML Version: >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=h tml&Chapter 20-05-09&Archive=Yak >> >> Text Version: >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=t xt&Chapter 20-05-09&Archive=Yak >> >> >> ====================== >> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive >> ====================== >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Yak-List Digest Archive >> --- >> Total Messages Posted Sat 05/09/20: 1 >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Today's Message Index: >> ---------------------- >> >> 1. 10:29 AM - Re: tach generator upkeep (Justin Drafts) >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 1 ____________________________ _________ >> >> >> Time: 10:29:53 AM PST US >> From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> >> Subject: Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep >> >> Epilogue to my tachometer troubles... >> >> After chasing wires and cleaning connections, I finally disassembled & >> thoroughly cleaned my hitherto-exposed cannon plug on the Chinese tach >> generator in the engine compartment. >> Redressing the wire run and c.plug with oil resistant tape, it's run like a >> champ for the last 4 flights. >> Fwd and aft gauges in perfect synch. >> >> So, I'm calling the system fixed. >> Thx for all the inputs- >> Justin >> N280NC >> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 10:29 AM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wro te: >> >> > Great info, thanks... >> > (Mine is the small, engine-mounted variety) >> > Justin >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 9:44 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote: >> > >> >> Justin; >> >> >> >> If you have the later ENGINE mounted Tach. gen. re-greasing of the >> >> bearings would be likely a 300-500 hr. unit >> >> overhaul function. >> >> >> >> If you have the original FIREWALL mounted, cable driven unit, just th row >> >> it away and get the later one from Doug Sapp. >> >> >> >> Cheers; >> >> Walt >> >> *From:* Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> >> >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2020 4:49 PM >> >> *To:* Tom Elliott <N13472@aol.com> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep >> >> >> >> Ok- >> >> Any experiences(s) with a good lube/grease for the tach gen bearings? >> >> Justin >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 1:26 PM Tom Elliott <n13472@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Note it reads Engine RPM not prop >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Tom Elliott >> >>> >> >>> CJ-6A NX63727 >> >>> >> >>> 777 Quartz Ave >> >>> >> >>> PMB 7004 >> >>> >> >>> Sandy Valley NV. >> >>> >> >>> 89019 >> >>> >> >>> Cell 541-297-5497 >> >>> >> >>> N13472@AOL.COM >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> >>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Justin Drafts >> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2020 8:48 AM >> >>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com >> >>> *Subject:* Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Morning all, >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Fast question re: the Housai's tiny tach generator for prop rpm >> >>> indication. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> In the midst of my cond insp, and the RPA checklist notes the tach ge n >> >>> should be removed and "disassembled and bearings repacked with grease ." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I've yet to disassemble one. >> >>> >> >>> Where are these bearings (ie- how get to them)? >> >>> >> >>> What grease have y'all successfully used? >> >>> >> >>> Tach gen maint tips & thoughts much appreciated... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Justin Drafts >> >>> >> >>> N280NC >> >>> >> >>> Seattle >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=l ink&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. >> >>> www.avg.com >> >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=l ink&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Yak-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> WIKI - >> errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========== >> >> >> >>


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    Time: 10:31:15 PM PST US
    From: "Walter Lannon" <wlannon@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/09/20
    Hi Skip; To top up or re-fill you need to remove the viewing window. For this you n eed 2 minor tools. 1. A small wrench made from 1/16=9D steel sheet to remove the retaining ring (very simple to make) and 2. A small suction cup to remove the window. If you can clearly see the compass dial through the window it is likely ful l of still clean fluid. Looking at your spare you can tilt the whole unit and see if you observe any fluid sloshing but of course can=99t do th at with the mounted unit. It should be completely full with no air space. If you are unable to clear ly read the dial chances are the fluid is contaminated and may require remo val of the upper cover for cleaning. This would have to be done at the bench. If all is well you will want to calibrate (swing) the compass. it has the same adjustable corrector magnets as any other magnetic compass. But more: Heading errors can be averaged and mostly taken out by rotating the entir e unit in the mount. Calibration can be a long and tedious process! Whether it=99s worth the effort is an individual decision. I did mine probably 20+ years ago an d rarely ever leave the local area and if I go somewhere I use the GPS. Th ough it is nice to think you have some accurate back-up nav. info. But, ho w accurate is it 20+ years after calibration and the mag. north pole is doi ng strange things. To swing it (or any mag. compass) one needs to know the local area declinat ion and have access to a master compass or an up to date compass rose. Las t I heard the magnetic north pole was changing location so fast (relative t erm) it may have left Canada and moved to Russia! Been meaning to look it up because (at least in Canada) we are supposed to have a current compass c ard in the aircraft! All the best; Walt From: Frederick Slyfield Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:27 PM Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 05/09/20 Did anyone address just how and where to service the Chinese compass unit o n the Nanchang? I think Justin and Walt were batting that back and forth. I tinkered with mine (and examined a spare that I have) and I can't tell if it actually has compass fluid in it, or where in tarnation you'd put it. An y suggestions? Skip Slyfield N75480 On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:54 AM Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list@matronics =2Ecom> wrote: * ======================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== Today's complete Yak-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=h tml&Chapter 20-05-09&Archive=Yak Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=t xt&Chapter 20-05-09&Archive=Yak ====================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ====================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Yak-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/09/20: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:29 AM - Re: tach generator upkeep (Justin Drafts) ________________________________ Message 1 ____________________________ _________ Time: 10:29:53 AM PST US From: Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> Subject: Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep Epilogue to my tachometer troubles... After chasing wires and cleaning connections, I finally disassembled & thoroughly cleaned my hitherto-exposed cannon plug on the Chinese tach generator in the engine compartment. Redressing the wire run and c.plug with oil resistant tape, it's run like a champ for the last 4 flights. Fwd and aft gauges in perfect synch. So, I'm calling the system fixed. Thx for all the inputs- Justin N280NC On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 10:29 AM Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> wro te: > Great info, thanks... > (Mine is the small, engine-mounted variety) > Justin > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 9:44 AM Walter Lannon <wlannon@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> Justin; >> >> If you have the later ENGINE mounted Tach. gen. re-greasing of the >> bearings would be likely a 300-500 hr. unit >> overhaul function. >> >> If you have the original FIREWALL mounted, cable driven unit, just th row >> it away and get the later one from Doug Sapp. >> >> Cheers; >> Walt >> *From:* Justin Drafts <draftsjust417@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2020 4:49 PM >> *To:* Tom Elliott <N13472@aol.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep >> >> Ok- >> Any experiences(s) with a good lube/grease for the tach gen bearings? >> Justin >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 1:26 PM Tom Elliott <n13472@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> Note it reads Engine RPM not prop >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom Elliott >>> >>> CJ-6A NX63727 >>> >>> 777 Quartz Ave >>> >>> PMB 7004 >>> >>> Sandy Valley NV. >>> >>> 89019 >>> >>> Cell 541-297-5497 >>> >>> N13472@AOL.COM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >>> owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Justin Drafts >>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2020 8:48 AM >>> *To:* yak-list@matronics.com >>> *Subject:* Yak-List: Re: tach generator upkeep >>> >>> >>> >>> Morning all, >>> >>> >>> >>> Fast question re: the Housai's tiny tach generator for prop rpm >>> indication. >>> >>> >>> >>> In the midst of my cond insp, and the RPA checklist notes the tach ge n >>> should be removed and "disassembled and bearings repacked with grease =2E" >>> >>> >>> >>> I've yet to disassemble one. >>> >>> Where are these bearings (ie- how get to them)? >>> >>> What grease have y'all successfully used? >>> >>> Tach gen maint tips & thoughts much appreciated... >>> >>> >>> >>> Justin Drafts >>> >>> N280NC >>> >>> Seattle >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=l ink&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. >>> www.avg.com >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=l ink&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>> >> ========== List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Yak-List ========== FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com ========== WIKI - errer" target="_blank">http://wiki.matronics.com ========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n ========== -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus




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