---------------------------------------------------------- Engines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/08/04: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:18 AM - Re: RX8 HP??? (Nielsenbe@aol.com) 2. 06:35 AM - Re: RX8 HP??? (Tony Howard) 3. 07:11 AM - Re: Free-piston engines (Gary Casey) 4. 08:47 AM - Re: RX8 HP??? () 5. 09:54 AM - Re: RX8 HP??? (Gene Smith) 6. 10:15 AM - Weight an Balance/ Engine Choice (Vic Jacko) 7. 10:45 AM - Re: RX8 HP??? (Nielsenbe@aol.com) 8. 10:46 AM - Re: Weight an Balance/ Engine Choice (Tony Howard) 9. 11:03 AM - Re: RX8 HP??? (Nielsenbe@aol.com) 10. 11:21 AM - Re: Renesis Rotary (Terry Watson) 11. 12:31 PM - Re: RX8 HP??? (kempthornes) 12. 12:40 PM - Re: RX8 HP??? (Randy L. Thwing) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:40 AM PST US From: Nielsenbe@aol.com Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: Nielsenbe@aol.com 400HP peak out of the question? I need something about that size. i am building a murphy moose. Brad ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:20 AM PST US From: "Tony Howard" Subject: RE: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: "Tony Howard" Just curious. Have you looked into a Crossflow CF6-33 series engine. It offers 350 hp. See www.crossflow.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Nielsenbe@aol.com Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: Nielsenbe@aol.com 400HP peak out of the question? I need something about that size. i am building a murphy moose. Brad ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:32 AM PST US From: "Gary Casey" Subject: Engines-List: RE: Free-piston engines --> Engines-List message posted by: "Gary Casey" <> The combination of a free-piston engine as a gas generator combined with a turbine for shaft power extraction was, as best I recall, a project of GM Research in the early or mid 60's. That's about all I know about it. Gary Casey ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:20 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: Perhaps, don't know for how long though. A russian M14P would sure look good, sound good and deliver the power reliably. Konrad ----- Original Message ----- From: Nielsenbe@aol.com To: engines-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:18 AM Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: Nielsenbe@aol.com 400HP peak out of the question? I need something about that size. i am building a murphy moose. Brad ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:34 AM PST US From: "Gene Smith" Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: "Gene Smith" Maybe I missed part of the message......? What is a "Murphy Moose?" Does it require a radial/horizontally opposed/ or inline???? ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? > --> Engines-List message posted by: > > Perhaps, don't know for how long though. > A russian M14P would sure look good, sound good and deliver the power reliably. > Konrad > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nielsenbe@aol.com > To: engines-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:18 AM > Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? > > > --> Engines-List message posted by: Nielsenbe@aol.com > > 400HP peak out of the question? I need something about that size. i am > building a murphy moose. > > Brad > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:34 AM PST US From: "Vic Jacko" Subject: Engines-List: Weight an Balance/ Engine Choice --> Engines-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" List. The most important decision a builder must make is their choice of Kit. I have already made that choice as I have a RV-9A kit ready to make the powerplant choice. The second most inportant decision is that of making a powerplant choice. I want to build a very light RV-9A so I am looking for info on other flying RV-9A with various engines. The format I am requesting is as follows; Please tell me your empty weight (FAA definition) of finished airplane. Include if you will the weights on each wheel. Please tell me your engine choice with complete designation of engine i.e. Lycoming 0-320 E2D! Please tell me the speed performance at pressure altitude of 8,000 feet and 75% power if you can get it! Any other info that you feel important or interesting to help make the choice. Anyone have a flying RV-9A sporting the Eggenfellner 2.5 Subie? If so how does it perform? Thank you-all very much for helping out. Vic Jacko Roswell, NM 505-622-8513 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:03 AM PST US From: Nielsenbe@aol.com Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: Nielsenbe@aol.com The murphy moose is a 4 place all aluminum high wing plane. It was designed to use the M14 russian radial. I just want to look at all the options. Thanks, Brad ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:28 AM PST US From: "Tony Howard" Subject: RE: Engines-List: Weight an Balance/ Engine Choice --> Engines-List message posted by: "Tony Howard" Maybe you should look at the Crossflow CF4-20T if you haven't already. see www.crossflow.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Vic Jacko Subject: Engines-List: Weight an Balance/ Engine Choice --> Engines-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" List. The most important decision a builder must make is their choice of Kit. I have already made that choice as I have a RV-9A kit ready to make the powerplant choice. The second most inportant decision is that of making a powerplant choice. I want to build a very light RV-9A so I am looking for info on other flying RV-9A with various engines. The format I am requesting is as follows; Please tell me your empty weight (FAA definition) of finished airplane. Include if you will the weights on each wheel. Please tell me your engine choice with complete designation of engine i.e. Lycoming 0-320 E2D! Please tell me the speed performance at pressure altitude of 8,000 feet and 75% power if you can get it! Any other info that you feel important or interesting to help make the choice. Anyone have a flying RV-9A sporting the Eggenfellner 2.5 Subie? If so how does it perform? Thank you-all very much for helping out. Vic Jacko Roswell, NM 505-622-8513 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:03:21 AM PST US From: Nielsenbe@aol.com Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: Nielsenbe@aol.com I checked out the crossflow engines. 41K is a bit much. I can go with the M14 for about 16K so I don't want to spend ALOT more than that. The chevy LS1 is my first choice but I have to see how that plays out. There are a few guys getting started on that engine for my model plane. I am still working on the tail kit so I have a long time to figure it out. Thanks, Brad ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:40 AM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RE: Engines-List: Renesis Rotary --> Engines-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" Tracy, Does this mean you decided to go with the Renesis instead of the 3-chamber rotary in your RV-8? Terry It will take some time for Mazda to fill the supply line but yes, the engine will be available. Mechanic's net price is something like $5800. I'm having Bruce Turrentine build me one from parts now. Engine - Turbo matching appears to be as much art as science. Lots of turbo work going on for automotive & marine applications but you have the chance to be first on the aircraft turbo application of the Renesis. Tracy ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:31:54 PM PST US From: kempthornes Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: kempthornes At 02:02 PM 1/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: >--> Engines-List message posted by: Nielsenbe@aol.com >The chevy LS1 is >my first choice but I have to see how that plays out. I think a Chevy V8 would be ideal - this is the aircraft for that engine. I believe quite a few agri planes use V8 auto conversions.? Some RV' s use Chevy V6's but I haven't heard much from them lately. K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now. PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:40:59 PM PST US From: "Randy L. Thwing" Subject: Re: Engines-List: RX8 HP??? --> Engines-List message posted by: "Randy L. Thwing" To see a very "clean" Chevy V6 installation, go to: www.beltedair.com I've flown in and next to this plane, the psru is available for V8's as well. Randy, Las Vegas > I think a Chevy V8 would be ideal - this is the aircraft for that engine. > I believe quite a few agri planes use V8 auto conversions.? > > Some RV' s use Chevy V6's but I haven't heard much from them lately. > > K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne > RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now. > PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)