---------------------------------------------------------- Engines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/04/04: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:30 PM - alternative diesel engines (Doug Ritter) 2. 08:38 PM - Re: alternative diesel engines (LessDragProd@aol.com) 3. 10:21 PM - Re: alternative diesel engines () 4. 10:46 PM - Re: alternative diesel engines () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:47 PM PST US From: Doug Ritter Subject: Engines-List: alternative diesel engines --> Engines-List message posted by: Doug Ritter For anybody who has been interested in a diesel alternative - I finally received an email update from Zoche in Germany concerning their remarkable 300 hp radial diesel engine. This would really work well on my RV8A but I have a hunch it will be expensive. Anyone have any additional info? >Dear Sir, > > >thank you for your e-mail and the interest you express in our engines. > >We still are in a concurrent JAR-E and FAR 33 certification procedure which >will require about two more years. It is considered to expand our current >German / U.S. certification program to a European / U.S. certification >program. Availability of production engines is at least two years away. The >150 and 300 hp engines will be followed by the 70 hp Z0 03A which shares >most of its components with the ZO O1A aero-diesel. > >In case of further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us or visit >our webpage and frequently asked questions list at http://www.zoche.de > >Yours Sincerely, > > >Georg Zoche ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:32 PM PST US From: LessDragProd@aol.com Subject: Re: Engines-List: alternative diesel engines --> Engines-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com Looks like the same Email I received 10 years ago. Jim Ayers ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:51 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Engines-List: alternative diesel engines --> Engines-List message posted by: Dear Doug, The first time I read a KITPLANES magazine was in the summer of 1989(?) way back (or is it rather down?) in Sydney, Australia. They talked about the ZOCHE Aero-Diesel way back then already. Then I went to OSH in '92 & '95 and saw the beast. Just beautiful. Now fifteen yrs. later, we are not only in the next century, but rather in a whole different milllenium, so don't bother to waste your time on waiting for the ZOCHE Aero-Diesel to ever come through. (I've heard my share of ". . . next year, next year for sure!"). BTW: Zoche claims a weight of 271lbs. for the engine. They have published this weight since I first got interested at it in '89, and they still claim the same weight today. However, they have since added multiple intercoolers, etc. to the engine (and all that without a weight increase?). But its probably just an "oversight" for them to not include the extra weight on their website? Sounds to fishy for my taste. Konrad P.S. My family lives some 60+mls from ZOCHE's H.Q., so on one of my visits a few years back I called them for a tour of the facility, etc.etc. "but they were way too BUSY with development and certification of the engine to have time for that". That was probably 4~5 years ago. In other words, I would not bet a dime of my money on ZOCHE to actually come through (would like to see it happen though)! Please DO NOT ARCHIVE this Zoche Stuff, as it will be a waste of cyber space. ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Ritter To: engines-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: Engines-List: alternative diesel engines --> Engines-List message posted by: Doug Ritter For anybody who has been interested in a diesel alternative - I finally received an email update from Zoche in Germany concerning their remarkable 300 hp radial diesel engine. This would really work well on my RV8A but I have a hunch it will be expensive. Anyone have any additional info? >Dear Sir, > > >thank you for your e-mail and the interest you express in our engines. > >We still are in a concurrent JAR-E and FAR 33 certification procedure which >will require about two more years. It is considered to expand our current >German / U.S. certification program to a European / U.S. certification >program. Availability of production engines is at least two years away. The >150 and 300 hp engines will be followed by the 70 hp Z0 03A which shares >most of its components with the ZO O1A aero-diesel. > >In case of further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us or visit >our webpage and frequently asked questions list at http://www.zoche.de > >Yours Sincerely, > > >Georg Zoche ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:45 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Engines-List: alternative diesel engines --> Engines-List message posted by: I think the alloy used in the ZOCHE Aero-Diesel is "Unobtainium"! IF it ever should become available, it may be to expensive for most of us to still be able to have some money left over to have fun with it. Some airplanes are Hangar-Queen's, and this engine seems to be a Paper-Queen. Sorry, I couldn't resist / please do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Ritter To: engines-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:28 PM Subject: Engines-List: alternative diesel engines --> Engines-List message posted by: Doug Ritter For anybody who has been interested in a diesel alternative - I finally received an email update from Zoche in Germany concerning their remarkable 300 hp radial diesel engine. This would really work well on my RV8A but I have a hunch it will be expensive. Anyone have any additional info?