---------------------------------------------------------- Engines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/19/04: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:18 AM - (kyle Ponsford) 2. 10:41 AM - Re: you ROTAX 912 (Tom...) 3. 01:00 PM - Re: (Lowell Fitt) 4. 02:14 PM - Re: Re: (sportpilot) 5. 03:26 PM - Re: plugs (Leo J. Corbalis) 6. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: plugs (Leo J. Corbalis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:23 AM PST US From: "kyle Ponsford" --> Engines-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" Gentlemen, I am the third owner of a kitfox 4 1906 with a Rotax 912 ul This plane was built in 95 yet has less than 300 hours on the plane and engin due to problems with the engine. I have owned it now for 5 years and have only flown 80 hours in it mostly testing and fixing, testing and fixing. I am now so afraid of this engine the plane just sets in my shop as it has done for the previous owners. My problem is that I love to fly! this is killing me. I live in remote Alaska and there are NO Rotax mechanics anywhere, I have spent countless piles of money paying airplane mechanics to learn enough about my plane but get nowhere. I have been on line for I think a hundred hours looking for help over the years, Skystar knows nothing about the rotax and for some reason I can'r reach a single Rotax mechanic. surely I am not the only one who has problems am I ? what do you guys who have them do? My main problem: (in case your interesed) my front 2 cylinders run dry black sooty pluggs, while my my 2 rear cylinders run almost white. I have done so many things to try to fix this problem with no change I cant list them all, but if anyone has had this problem please treat me like I have done nothing with it and ask me if I have done....whatever. I am really at a loss here, any help would be very gratfully appreciated, Kyle http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:06 AM PST US From: "Tom..." Subject: Engines-List: RE: you ROTAX 912 --> Engines-List message posted by: "Tom..." Hiya Mr. Kyle, You did not put anything in the Subject area on this E-mail and my server, and I am sure others, stuck it into the SPAM so I suggest you re-send it with "ROTAX 912" in the subject line. I wish you good luck. I got a good friend John Latham in Yakatait Tom... Check out my HeliCycle build web site: http://www.asynchronous.org/tsled/00HeliPage.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kyle Ponsford Subject: --> Engines-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" Gentlemen, I am the third owner of a kitfox 4 1906 with a Rotax 912 ul This plane was built in 95 yet has less than 300 hours on the plane and engin due to problems with the engine. I have owned it now for 5 years and have only flown 80 hours in it mostly testing and fixing, testing and fixing. I am now so afraid of this engine the plane just sets in my shop as it has done for the previous owners. My problem is that I love to fly! this is killing me. I live in remote Alaska and there are NO Rotax mechanics anywhere, I have spent countless piles of money paying airplane mechanics to learn enough about my plane but get nowhere. I have been on line for I think a hundred hours looking for help over the years, Skystar knows nothing about the rotax and for some reason I can'r reach a single Rotax mechanic. surely I am not the only one who has problems am I ? what do you guys who have them do? My main problem: (in case your interesed) my front 2 cylinders run dry black sooty pluggs, while my my 2 rear cylinders run almost white. I have done so many things to try to fix this problem with no change I cant list them all, but if anyone has had this problem please treat me like I have done nothing with it and ask me if I have done....whatever. I am really at a loss here, any help would be very gratfully appreciated, Kyle http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:00:11 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Engines-List: Re: --> Engines-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" Kyle, I also own a Model IV with a 912 UL. I am not familiar with the 1906 designation. Your post is the first time I have heard of this problem. My rear cylinders produce plug colors that are lighter than the front cylinders, but since the intake manifolds are interconnected on each side, I can't imagine what you may have done to try to balance the mixture, or do you feel it is a cooling problem? Is this your only symptom or are you having other problems - rough running, roughness at certain RPM ranges etc. I just replaced the plug wires at 550 hours and got rid of some roughness between 4200 and 4400 RPM. My plugs are usually amber colored in the back and dark gray in front. One other suggestion. You might post your question on the Matronics Kitfox list. I think there are some Rotax service center guys monitoring that list. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyle Ponsford" > --> Engines-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" > > Gentlemen, > I am the third owner of a kitfox 4 1906 with a Rotax 912 ul > This plane was built in 95 yet has less than 300 hours on the plane and > engin due to problems with the engine. > I have owned it now for 5 years and have only flown 80 hours in it mostly > testing and fixing, testing and fixing. > I am now so afraid of this engine the plane just sets in my shop as it has > done for the previous owners. > My problem is that I love to fly! this is killing me. > I live in remote Alaska and there are NO Rotax mechanics anywhere, I have > spent countless piles of money paying airplane mechanics to learn enough > about my plane but get nowhere. > > I have been on line for I think a hundred hours looking for help over the > years, Skystar knows nothing about the rotax and for some reason I can'r > reach a single Rotax mechanic. > surely I am not the only one who has problems am I ? what do you guys who > have them do? > > My main problem: (in case your interesed) > my front 2 cylinders run dry black sooty pluggs, while my my 2 rear > cylinders run almost white. > I have done so many things to try to fix this problem with no change I cant > list them all, but if anyone has had this problem please treat me like I > have done nothing with it and ask me if I have done....whatever. I am really > at a loss here, > > any help would be very gratfully appreciated, > > Kyle > > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:58 PM PST US From: "sportpilot" Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re: --> Engines-List message posted by: "sportpilot" Ok, who is the lycoming experts, I need info on a 0320 motor.. this is all I have except 0 time logs.. 0320 G4 L 103-47 anyone know what this means ? Danny.. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:42 PM PST US From: "Leo J. Corbalis" Subject: Engines-List: Re: plugs --> Engines-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyle Ponsford" I have the same problem, black front plugs and white rear plugs on my 912UL, but just on the left side. My solution, swap plugs. When it starts to run rough again, swap them again. I put in new ones each year. I'd like to hear of a better solution Leo Corbalis leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:08:37 PM PST US From: "Leo J. Corbalis" Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re: plugs --> Engines-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo J. Corbalis" Subject: Engines-List: Re: plugs > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kyle Ponsford" > > I have the same problem, black front plugs and white rear plugs on my 912UL, > but just on the left side. My solution, swap plugs. When it starts to run > rough again, swap them again. I put in new ones each year. > > I'd like to hear of a better solution > P.S. Be sure to use anti-sieze and a torque wrench, there is a lot of swapping going on. > Leo Corbalis > leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net > >