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1. 12:00 AM - Re: Re: you ROTAX 912 (kyle Ponsford)
2. 01:18 AM - 912 Rotax mixture problems (Rex & Jan Shaw)
3. 05:37 AM - Re: 912 Rotax mixture problems (Archie)
4. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: (Johnny Johnson)
5. 01:04 PM - Re: Re: (sportpilot)
6. 10:07 PM - Re: Re: (kyle Ponsford)
7. 10:12 PM - Re: Re: plugs (kyle Ponsford)
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| Subject: | RE: you ROTAX 912 |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
Thanks Tom for the heads up on the subject line. I am eager to be a part of
the lists, I'm sure there is a wealth of very real wisdom here. hands on as
they all are.
thanks again.
Kyle
>From: "Tom..." <tsled@pacbell.net>
>Reply-To: engines-list@matronics.com
>To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Engines-List: RE: you ROTAX 912
>Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:35:23 -0700
>
>--> Engines-List message posted by: "Tom..." <tsled@pacbell.net>
>
>Hiya Mr. Kyle,
>
>You did not put anything in the Subject area on this E-mail and my server,
>and I am sure others, stuck it into the SPAM so I suggest you re-send it
>with "ROTAX 912" in the subject line. I wish you good luck. I got a good
>friend John Latham in Yakatait
>
>Tom...
>Check out my HeliCycle build web site:
>http://www.asynchronous.org/tsled/00HeliPage.htm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kyle
>Ponsford
>To: engines-list@matronics.com
>Subject:
>
>
>--> Engines-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
>
>Gentlemen,
>I am the third owner of a kitfox 4 1906 with a Rotax 912 ul
>This plane was built in 95 yet has less than 300 hours on the plane and
>engin due to problems with the engine.
>I have owned it now for 5 years and have only flown 80 hours in it mostly
>testing and fixing, testing and fixing.
>I am now so afraid of this engine the plane just sets in my shop as it has
>done for the previous owners.
>My problem is that I love to fly! this is killing me.
>I live in remote Alaska and there are NO Rotax mechanics anywhere, I have
>spent countless piles of money paying airplane mechanics to learn enough
>about my plane but get nowhere.
>
>I have been on line for I think a hundred hours looking for help over the
>years, Skystar knows nothing about the rotax and for some reason I can'r
>reach a single Rotax mechanic.
>surely I am not the only one who has problems am I ? what do you guys who
>have them do?
>
>My main problem: (in case your interesed)
>my front 2 cylinders run dry black sooty pluggs, while my my 2 rear
>cylinders run almost white.
>I have done so many things to try to fix this problem with no change I cant
>list them all, but if anyone has had this problem please treat me like I
>have done nothing with it and ask me if I have done....whatever. I am
>really
>at a loss here,
>
>any help would be very gratfully appreciated,
>
>Kyle
>
>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
>
>
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| Subject: | 912 Rotax mixture problems |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
I am not familiar with the rotax 912 but we just cured a similar problem
that had plagued us since new on a Jabiru 2200. It was an air leak in the
intake system. Suggest you pull it apart and carefully reassemble with
appropriate sealants.
There is a site you can join free online for Rotax owners. Sorry can't find
the URL but just type rotaxowners as one word into your preffered search
engine and you should get it. If you can't contact me at rexjan@bigpond.com
and I'll find it for you. GoodluckRex.
PS
hope you get this I've never responded to a Matronics list before.
rexjan@bigpond.com
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| Subject: | Re: 912 Rotax mixture problems |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net>
A simple trick to locate induction leaks is to spray starting fluid
on suspected areas with the engine running.
(without the prop, of course)
If a leak is detected, an immediate, and short, RPM increase
will be realized.
Archie
Archie's Racing Service
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "Johnny Johnson" <Johnny@wiktel.com>
Hi Danny... I'm no expert but did try a Google search using
lycoming O-320-G4
It comes up with something--unofficial--indicating it is a 150 hp ground
power unit... I don't know about the O320 gpu but as I recall some of the
older gpu's had single ignition and a lighter weight or non-standard
(compared to the aircraft engine) flange on the crank... one of the Tony
Bingelis books has info on workarounds for the flange thing, I believe.
Johnny
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportpilot
Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re:
--> Engines-List message posted by: "sportpilot" <sportpilot@moneypit.com>
Ok, who is the lycoming experts, I need info on a 0320 motor..
this is all I have except 0 time logs..
0320 G4 L 103-47
anyone know what this means ?
Danny..
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "sportpilot" <sportpilot@moneypit.com>
Thanks for all that info, I will check into that powerplant
thing.. appreciate that.. he did say it had two mags
one slick mag and one bendix mag.. so I don't know I suppose
they can't be certifiied bummer.. and extra
15 hours within 50 miles of the the airport..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnny Johnson" <Johnny@wiktel.com>
Subject: RE: Engines-List: Re:
> --> Engines-List message posted by: "Johnny Johnson" <Johnny@wiktel.com>
>
> Hi Danny... I'm no expert but did try a Google search using
>
> lycoming O-320-G4
>
> It comes up with something--unofficial--indicating it is a 150 hp ground
> power unit... I don't know about the O320 gpu but as I recall some of the
> older gpu's had single ignition and a lighter weight or non-standard
> (compared to the aircraft engine) flange on the crank... one of the Tony
> Bingelis books has info on workarounds for the flange thing, I believe.
>
> Johnny
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sportpilot
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:08 PM
> To: engines-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re:
>
> --> Engines-List message posted by: "sportpilot" <sportpilot@moneypit.com>
>
> Ok, who is the lycoming experts, I need info on a 0320 motor..
>
> this is all I have except 0 time logs..
>
> 0320 G4 L 103-47
>
> anyone know what this means ?
>
>
> Danny..
>
>
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
Lowell,
no I don't have a ruff engine, been through the plug wires but have not
replaced them, they appear quite sound, with good spark, no bleeding.
maybe I should just install new ones but at this point I have started to be
more selective of what I replace as I have spent GOBS doing just that.
carbs, hose, fuel lines, pump, etc....
thanks for the note.
Kyle
>From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>Reply-To: engines-list@matronics.com
>To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Engines-List: Re: Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:56:00 -0700
>
>--> Engines-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@inreach.com>
>
>Kyle,
>
>I also own a Model IV with a 912 UL. I am not familiar with the 1906
>designation.
>Your post is the first time I have heard of this problem. My rear
>cylinders
>produce plug colors that are lighter than the front cylinders, but since
>the
>intake manifolds are interconnected on each side, I can't imagine what you
>may have done to try to balance the mixture, or do you feel it is a cooling
>problem? Is this your only symptom or are you having other problems -
>rough
>running, roughness at certain RPM ranges etc.
>
>I just replaced the plug wires at 550 hours and got rid of some roughness
>between 4200 and 4400 RPM. My plugs are usually amber colored in the
>back
>and dark gray in front.
>
>One other suggestion. You might post your question on the Matronics Kitfox
>list. I think there are some Rotax service center guys monitoring that
>list.
>
>Lowell
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
>To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
>
>
> > --> Engines-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford"
><wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> > I am the third owner of a kitfox 4 1906 with a Rotax 912 ul
> > This plane was built in 95 yet has less than 300 hours on the plane and
> > engin due to problems with the engine.
> > I have owned it now for 5 years and have only flown 80 hours in it
>mostly
> > testing and fixing, testing and fixing.
> > I am now so afraid of this engine the plane just sets in my shop as it
>has
> > done for the previous owners.
> > My problem is that I love to fly! this is killing me.
> > I live in remote Alaska and there are NO Rotax mechanics anywhere, I
>have
> > spent countless piles of money paying airplane mechanics to learn enough
> > about my plane but get nowhere.
> >
> > I have been on line for I think a hundred hours looking for help over
>the
> > years, Skystar knows nothing about the rotax and for some reason I can'r
> > reach a single Rotax mechanic.
> > surely I am not the only one who has problems am I ? what do you guys
>who
> > have them do?
> >
> > My main problem: (in case your interesed)
> > my front 2 cylinders run dry black sooty pluggs, while my my 2 rear
> > cylinders run almost white.
> > I have done so many things to try to fix this problem with no change I
>cant
> > list them all, but if anyone has had this problem please treat me like I
> > have done nothing with it and ask me if I have done....whatever. I am
>really
> > at a loss here,
> >
> > any help would be very gratfully appreciated,
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
Leo,
Now that sounds like a very scarry fix!
the whole white plug thing is because it is too hot. changing the plug seems
like taking the battery out the screeming smoke alarm because the fire is
getting too big! a hot cylinder is calling for a melt down the way I see it.
maybe I'm wrong. I will keep you posted as I find out.
thanks,
Kyle
>From: "Leo J. Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: engines-list@matronics.com
>To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re: plugs
>Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 16:03:36 -0700
>
>--> Engines-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis"
><leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Leo J. Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
>To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Engines-List: Re: plugs
>
>
> > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Leo J. Corbalis"
><leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kyle Ponsford" <wild_kyle@hotmail.com>
> >
> > I have the same problem, black front plugs and white rear plugs on my
>912UL,
> > but just on the left side. My solution, swap plugs. When it starts to
>run
> > rough again, swap them again. I put in new ones each year.
> >
> > I'd like to hear of a better solution
> >
>P.S. Be sure to use anti-sieze and a torque wrench, there is a lot of
>swapping going on.
> > Leo Corbalis
> > leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net
> >
> >
>
>
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