---------------------------------------------------------- Engines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/26/05: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:49 AM - 172 auxiliary tank (rd2@evenlink.com) 2. 06:29 AM - Re: Franklin conversion on 172 (BERNDSENCO@aol.com) 3. 08:59 AM - Re: 172 auxiliary tank (Dean) 4. 09:32 AM - Re: 172 auxiliary tank (flyv35b) 5. 10:14 AM - Re: 172 auxiliary tank (Dean) 6. 12:43 PM - Re: 172 auxiliary tank (rd2@evenlink.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:01 AM PST US From: rd2@evenlink.com Subject: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank --> Engines-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com Hi all, does anyone know of, or have experience with, an auxiliary/add-on fuel tank for 172 that would fit under the rear bench? I'd appreciate any feedback, url-s etc. Thanks Rumen ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:14 AM PST US From: BERNDSENCO@aol.com Subject: Engines-List: Re: Franklin conversion on 172 --> Engines-List message posted by: BERNDSENCO@aol.com The Franklin conversion on a 172 is an awesome package. The Franklin 220 weighs no more than the Lycoming 180 yet is much more powerful, 6 cylinder, turbine smooth, and inexpensive compared to the Lycoming. There are STC's for the 170, 172, 175. Bruce Kown in Atlanta does the conversions and sells Franklin parts. His Franklin powered 170 cruises at 150 kts. Contact him at: _brucekown@mindspring.com_ (mailto:brucekown@mindspring.com) In a message dated 2/26/2005 2:57:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, engines-list-digest@matronics.com writes: Time: 07:06:58 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Engines-List: The Prince of Darkness & beer --> Engines-List message posted by: Charlie England If it's an older one with a Continental, you might want to check on a Franklin conversion. I heard a rumor that there is now an STC for the 350 ci engine & it's supposed to fit without cowl mods. Should be a lot cheaper than a new Lyc, too. Charlie Greg Young wrote: >--> Engines-List message posted by: "Greg Young" > >I've got 2 friends on the field who got theirs converted. Both extremely >pleased. I think they used http://www.airplains.com/index.html but won't >swear to it. I've flown in their planes and along side and the performance >gain is amazing. > >Greg > > > >>--> Engines-List message posted by: brian olofsson >>--> >> >>Hello ot there: I'm interested in doing a conversion on my >>172 to 180hp. Anyone with any experience. Thanks brian >> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:53 AM PST US From: "Dean" Subject: Re: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank --> Engines-List message posted by: "Dean" Rumen I went to faa.gov and accessed the STC list. There are two possible aux fuel approaches. One is baggage compartment and the other is outboard wing panels. The options are: STC SA615NE Installation of an 18 gallon tank in the aft baggage compartment and fuel transfer system. 172F thru Q Models. O & N Aircraft Modifications Inc 210 Windsock Lane Seamans Airport P O Box 292 Factoryville, Pa 18419 STC SA1614WE Installation of one 12 gallon auxiliary fuel tank in each outboard wing panel. 170, 175, and 172 models thru Q. Flint Aero, Inc 1942 Joe Crosson Drive El Cajon, CA 92020-1236 The baggage compartment installation sounds about like the one that Dave Blanton sold in Wichita many years ago. I am not personally aware of one that would go under the rear bench. I wasn't able to pull up the text of the STC's but, the tanks in the outer wing panels may allow a higher takeoff weight when fueled since they provide a relieving bending load on the wing. Dean Van Winkle Retired Aero Engineer RV-9A Fuselage/Finish Kits in progress ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank > --> Engines-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com > > Hi all, > does anyone know of, or have experience with, an auxiliary/add-on fuel tank > for 172 that would fit under the rear bench? I'd appreciate any feedback, > url-s etc. > Thanks > Rumen > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:04 AM PST US From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank --> Engines-List message posted by: "flyv35b" The STC'd baggage compartment tank was originally obtained and owned by Javelin Aircraft, now O&N. As I recall it has the fuel filler opening and neck in the side of the fuselage and uses a electric transfer pump. Probably not nearly as desirable as the wing tanks due to having fuel in the cabin area. Cliff A&P/IA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean" Subject: Re: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Dean" > > Rumen > > I went to faa.gov and accessed the STC list. There are two possible aux > fuel approaches. One is baggage compartment and the other is outboard > wing > panels. The options are: > > STC SA615NE Installation of an 18 gallon tank in the aft baggage > compartment and fuel transfer system. 172F thru Q Models. > > O & N Aircraft Modifications Inc > 210 Windsock Lane > Seamans Airport P O Box 292 > Factoryville, Pa 18419 > > STC SA1614WE Installation of one 12 gallon auxiliary fuel tank in > each > outboard wing panel. 170, 175, and 172 models thru Q. > > Flint Aero, Inc > 1942 Joe Crosson Drive > El Cajon, CA 92020-1236 > > The baggage compartment installation sounds about like the one that Dave > Blanton sold in Wichita many years ago. I am not personally aware of one > that would go under the rear bench. I wasn't able to pull up the text of > the STC's but, the tanks in the outer wing panels may allow a higher > takeoff > weight when fueled since they provide a relieving bending load on the > wing. > > Dean Van Winkle > Retired Aero Engineer > RV-9A Fuselage/Finish Kits in progress > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank > > >> --> Engines-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com >> >> Hi all, >> does anyone know of, or have experience with, an auxiliary/add-on fuel > tank >> for 172 that would fit under the rear bench? I'd appreciate any feedback, >> url-s etc. >> Thanks >> Rumen >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:13 AM PST US From: "Dean" Subject: Re: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank --> Engines-List message posted by: "Dean" Cliff Thanks for the update. I spent 5 years with Cessna in the 60s as a Designer and Flight Test Engineer. Dave Blanton was the owner of Javelin Aircraft. My recollection also is that the filler was on the side of the fuselage. Dave made a lot of ferry tanks back in those days. Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "flyv35b" Subject: Re: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank > --> Engines-List message posted by: "flyv35b" > > The STC'd baggage compartment tank was originally obtained and owned by > Javelin Aircraft, now O&N. As I recall it has the fuel filler opening and > neck in the side of the fuselage and uses a electric transfer pump. > Probably not nearly as desirable as the wing tanks due to having fuel in the > cabin area. > > Cliff A&P/IA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dean" > To: > Subject: Re: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank > > > > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Dean" > > > > Rumen > > > > I went to faa.gov and accessed the STC list. There are two possible aux > > fuel approaches. One is baggage compartment and the other is outboard > > wing > > panels. The options are: > > > > STC SA615NE Installation of an 18 gallon tank in the aft baggage > > compartment and fuel transfer system. 172F thru Q Models. > > > > O & N Aircraft Modifications Inc > > 210 Windsock Lane > > Seamans Airport P O Box 292 > > Factoryville, Pa 18419 > > > > STC SA1614WE Installation of one 12 gallon auxiliary fuel tank in > > each > > outboard wing panel. 170, 175, and 172 models thru Q. > > > > Flint Aero, Inc > > 1942 Joe Crosson Drive > > El Cajon, CA 92020-1236 > > > > The baggage compartment installation sounds about like the one that Dave > > Blanton sold in Wichita many years ago. I am not personally aware of one > > that would go under the rear bench. I wasn't able to pull up the text of > > the STC's but, the tanks in the outer wing panels may allow a higher > > takeoff > > weight when fueled since they provide a relieving bending load on the > > wing. > > > > Dean Van Winkle > > Retired Aero Engineer > > RV-9A Fuselage/Finish Kits in progress > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Subject: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank > > > > > >> --> Engines-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com > >> > >> Hi all, > >> does anyone know of, or have experience with, an auxiliary/add-on fuel > > tank > >> for 172 that would fit under the rear bench? I'd appreciate any feedback, > >> url-s etc. > >> Thanks > >> Rumen > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:24 PM PST US From: rd2@evenlink.com Subject: Re: Engines-List: 172 auxiliary tank --> Engines-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com Thanks Dean, Cliff for the info. Ditto for the approach (searching the SIC list). One always learns. Grateful Rumen P.S. O&N isn't too far away, I am gonna pay them a visit one of these days.