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1. 07:29 AM - Re: Re: Franklin conversion on 172 (Scott Bilinski)
2. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Franklin conversion on 172 (Edward Chmielewski)
3. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Franklin conversion on 172 (Bruce Smith)
4. 08:05 PM - Off the topic (Fergus Kyle)
5. 08:16 PM - Re: Off the topic (Archie)
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| Subject: | Re: Franklin conversion on 172 |
--> Engines-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
AVweb reported today the Franklin is basically out of business.
http://www.avweb.com/columns/
At 09:28 AM 2/26/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>--> Engines-List message posted by: BERNDSENCO@aol.com
>
>
>The Franklin conversion on a 172 is an awesome package. The Franklin 220
>weighs no more than the Lycoming 180 yet is much more powerful, 6 cylinder,
>turbine smooth, and inexpensive compared to the Lycoming. There are
>STC's for
>the 170, 172, 175. Bruce Kown in Atlanta does the conversions and sells
>Franklin parts.
>His Franklin powered 170 cruises at 150 kts. Contact him at:
>_brucekown@mindspring.com_ (mailto:brucekown@mindspring.com)
>
>In a message dated 2/26/2005 2:57:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>engines-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
>
>
>Time: 07:06:58 PM PST US
>From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: Engines-List: The Prince of Darkness & beer
>
>--> Engines-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
>If it's an older one with a Continental, you might want to check on a
>Franklin conversion. I heard a rumor that there is now an STC for the
>350 ci engine & it's supposed to fit without cowl mods. Should be a lot
>cheaper than a new Lyc, too.
>Charlie
>
>
>Greg Young wrote:
>
> >--> Engines-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
> >
> >I've got 2 friends on the field who got theirs converted. Both extremely
> >pleased. I think they used http://www.airplains.com/index.html but won't
> >swear to it. I've flown in their planes and along side and the performance
> >gain is amazing.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >
> >
> >>--> Engines-List message posted by: brian olofsson
> >>--> <brian060901@yahoo.com>
> >>
> >>Hello ot there: I'm interested in doing a conversion on my
> >>172 to 180hp. Anyone with any experience. Thanks brian
> >>
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Franklin conversion on 172 |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
According to the article, they've not been produced since 2002. Too bad, arguably
the best of the three.
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/189247-1.html
.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Bilinski" <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re: Franklin conversion on 172
> --> Engines-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> AVweb reported today the Franklin is basically out of business.
>
> http://www.avweb.com/columns/
>
>
> At 09:28 AM 2/26/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> Engines-List message posted by: BERNDSENCO@aol.com
> >
> >
> >The Franklin conversion on a 172 is an awesome package. The Franklin 220
> >weighs no more than the Lycoming 180 yet is much more powerful, 6 cylinder,
> >turbine smooth, and inexpensive compared to the Lycoming. There are
> >STC's for
> >the 170, 172, 175. Bruce Kown in Atlanta does the conversions and sells
> >Franklin parts.
> >His Franklin powered 170 cruises at 150 kts. Contact him at:
> >_brucekown@mindspring.com_ (mailto:brucekown@mindspring.com)
> >
> >In a message dated 2/26/2005 2:57:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >engines-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> >
> >
> >Time: 07:06:58 PM PST US
> >From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
> >Subject: Re: Engines-List: The Prince of Darkness & beer
> >
> >--> Engines-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
> >
> >If it's an older one with a Continental, you might want to check on a
> >Franklin conversion. I heard a rumor that there is now an STC for the
> >350 ci engine & it's supposed to fit without cowl mods. Should be a lot
> >cheaper than a new Lyc, too.
> >Charlie
> >
> >
> >Greg Young wrote:
> >
> > >--> Engines-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
> > >
> > >I've got 2 friends on the field who got theirs converted. Both extremely
> > >pleased. I think they used http://www.airplains.com/index.html but won't
> > >swear to it. I've flown in their planes and along side and the performance
> > >gain is amazing.
> > >
> > >Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>--> Engines-List message posted by: brian olofsson
> > >>--> <brian060901@yahoo.com>
> > >>
> > >>Hello ot there: I'm interested in doing a conversion on my
> > >>172 to 180hp. Anyone with any experience. Thanks brian
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Franklin conversion on 172 |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Bruce Smith" <bruce.smith@york.com>
That is a pity. The Franklin had a rather efficient hemispherical
combustion chamber. Not sure what the shape of the Continental or the
Lycoming's chamber is, but I don't believe that it is a hemi.
It would be interesting to see what kind of horsepower a Continental or
Lycoming could develop with a combustion chamber of mid 80's automotive
technology.
Bruce Smith
Edward Chmielewski said the following on 2/28/2005 12:00 PM:
>--> Engines-List message posted by: "Edward Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
>According to the article, they've not been produced since 2002. Too bad, arguably
the best of the three.
>
>http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/189247-1.html
>
>
>.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott Bilinski" <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re: Franklin conversion on 172
>
>
>
>
>>--> Engines-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>>
>>AVweb reported today the Franklin is basically out of business.
>>
>>http://www.avweb.com/columns/
>>
>>
>>At 09:28 AM 2/26/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--> Engines-List message posted by: BERNDSENCO@aol.com
>>>
>>>
>>>The Franklin conversion on a 172 is an awesome package. The Franklin 220
>>>weighs no more than the Lycoming 180 yet is much more powerful, 6 cylinder,
>>>turbine smooth, and inexpensive compared to the Lycoming. There are
>>>STC's for
>>>the 170, 172, 175. Bruce Kown in Atlanta does the conversions and sells
>>>Franklin parts.
>>>His Franklin powered 170 cruises at 150 kts. Contact him at:
>>>_brucekown@mindspring.com_ (mailto:brucekown@mindspring.com)
>>>
>>>In a message dated 2/26/2005 2:57:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>engines-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>Time: 07:06:58 PM PST US
>>>From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>>>Subject: Re: Engines-List: The Prince of Darkness & beer
>>>
>>>--> Engines-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>>>
>>>If it's an older one with a Continental, you might want to check on a
>>>Franklin conversion. I heard a rumor that there is now an STC for the
>>>350 ci engine & it's supposed to fit without cowl mods. Should be a lot
>>>cheaper than a new Lyc, too.
>>>Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>>Greg Young wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--> Engines-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
>>>>
>>>>I've got 2 friends on the field who got theirs converted. Both extremely
>>>>pleased. I think they used http://www.airplains.com/index.html but won't
>>>>swear to it. I've flown in their planes and along side and the performance
>>>>gain is amazing.
>>>>
>>>>Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>--> Engines-List message posted by: brian olofsson
>>>>>--> <brian060901@yahoo.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello ot there: I'm interested in doing a conversion on my
>>>>>172 to 180hp. Anyone with any experience. Thanks brian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Scott Bilinski
>>Eng dept 305
>>Phone (858) 657-2536
>>Pager (858) 502-5190
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
I had permission from Matt to send this................
Good day,
During and after the Battle of Britain, which older folk will
remember is the turning point in the air [mainly] for the defence of
Britain, and thus of Hitler's attempt to eradicate the western world, one of
the many airfields is North Weald, just NE of London.
Of the over 800 airfields and air harbours used in WW II, this
field was extensively used by fighter aircraft (including my RCAF Squadron
401) in the defence of London and the mauling of the Luftwaffe bomber force.
Unsuccessful in the destruction of Brit airfields, Goering sent bombers to
the city centres - never thinking it would rebound on Germany one
thousandfold.
Following WW II, North Weald gradually became a mecca for
wartime aircraft and a popular centre for Fighter airshows. Having the
opportunity to visit Uk during these events brought back the recollection of
desparate days which saved the war. It showed the brilliance and dedication
of ordinary men and women to protect our way of life and stave off the
bestiality of the Hitler regime - and displayed a myriad of forgotten
aircraft types - a magnificent day........... and just at the end of the
London Underground with a short walk to the field.
The usual politicos in regional Britain want to scrap this
memorial ground to jam in 6,000 houses in accordance with a major plan to
re-organise and fill in a precious part of the country - and to Hell with
history. No doubt streets will be named after them. What they don't realise
is that the names could be Adolph Schickelgruber or Hermann Goering were it
not for North Weald.
Since many of the fields are now given over to mills, firms and
houses, only a few truly memorable ones remain and NW is one of these. If
you are a vet of those days, or visitted NW for one of its brilliant
airshows, I urge you to contact the defenders at:
http://www.northwealdevents.com/ and add your words to the growing
defence of this place. Too soon we regret the bottom-line urgency of burying
history for the art of concrete and gain.
The last great war saved us all - let's fight to preserve the
thought!
Ferg Kyle
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| Subject: | Re: Off the topic |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net>
Will do Fergus.
I spent time at Brize, Upper Heyford, and Mildenhall. not long after the
war.
Living history.
Archie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Subject: Engines-List: Off the topic
> --> Engines-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
>
> I had permission from Matt to send this................
>
> Good day,
> During and after the Battle of Britain, which older folk will
> remember is the turning point in the air [mainly] for the defence of
> Britain, and thus of Hitler's attempt to eradicate the western world, one
> of
> the many airfields is North Weald, just NE of London.
> Of the over 800 airfields and air harbours used in WW II, this
> field was extensively used by fighter aircraft (including my RCAF Squadron
> 401) in the defence of London and the mauling of the Luftwaffe bomber
> force.
> Unsuccessful in the destruction of Brit airfields, Goering sent bombers to
> the city centres - never thinking it would rebound on Germany one
> thousandfold.
> Following WW II, North Weald gradually became a mecca for
> wartime aircraft and a popular centre for Fighter airshows. Having the
> opportunity to visit Uk during these events brought back the recollection
> of
> desparate days which saved the war. It showed the brilliance and
> dedication
> of ordinary men and women to protect our way of life and stave off the
> bestiality of the Hitler regime - and displayed a myriad of forgotten
> aircraft types - a magnificent day........... and just at the end of the
> London Underground with a short walk to the field.
> The usual politicos in regional Britain want to scrap this
> memorial ground to jam in 6,000 houses in accordance with a major plan to
> re-organise and fill in a precious part of the country - and to Hell with
> history. No doubt streets will be named after them. What they don't
> realise
> is that the names could be Adolph Schickelgruber or Hermann Goering were
> it
> not for North Weald.
> Since many of the fields are now given over to mills, firms and
> houses, only a few truly memorable ones remain and NW is one of these. If
> you are a vet of those days, or visitted NW for one of its brilliant
> airshows, I urge you to contact the defenders at:
> http://www.northwealdevents.com/ and add your words to the growing
> defence of this place. Too soon we regret the bottom-line urgency of
> burying
> history for the art of concrete and gain.
> The last great war saved us all - let's fight to preserve the
> thought!
> Ferg Kyle
>
>
>
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