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Tue 03/01/05


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 07:08 AM - IO-360-A!A Rods (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
     2. 08:58 AM - Re: IO-360-A!A Rods (brian olofsson)
     3. 08:59 AM - Re: Off the topic (Fergus Kyle)
     4. 09:22 AM - Re: IO-360-A!A Rods (cgalley)
     5. 09:56 AM - Re: Off the topic (Philippjw54@aol.com)
     6. 10:03 AM - Re: IO-360-A!A Rods (Rhonda Bewley)
     7. 11:39 AM - Re: IO-360-A!A Rods (cgalley)
     8. 03:30 PM - Re: IO-360-A!A Rods (Archie)
     9. 08:59 PM - Re: IO-360-A!A Rods (red)
    10. 09:19 PM - 172 Engine conversion (j1j2h3@juno.com)
    11. 11:42 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:08:50 AM PST US
    From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
    Subject: IO-360-A!A Rods
    --> Engines-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com Fellow listers, I bought a core IO-360-A1A 200 hp angle valve engine to overhaul. It had Lycoming part no. 75059 connecting rods. I have been told that these rods are not airworthy. Is this true? If so, does anyone have four replacements to sell me? Please reply off list with price. do not archive Thanks, Dan Hopper Walton IN RV-7A


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    Time: 08:58:38 AM PST US
    From: brian olofsson <brian060901@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: IO-360-A!A Rods
    --> Engines-List message posted by: brian olofsson <brian060901@yahoo.com> Hi:If it turns out to be true.. I just happen to have an extra set from when I O.H.'d mine Brian060901@yahoo.com Hopperdhh@aol.com wrote:--> Engines-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com Fellow listers, I bought a core IO-360-A1A 200 hp angle valve engine to overhaul. It had Lycoming part no. 75059 connecting rods. I have been told that these rods are not airworthy. Is this true? If so, does anyone have four replacements to sell me? Please reply off list with price. do not archive Thanks, Dan Hopper Walton IN RV-7A ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:59:52 AM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Re: Off the topic
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Engines-List: Off the topic | --> Engines-List message posted by: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net> | | Will do Fergus. | I spent time at Brize, Upper Heyford, and Mildenhall. not long after the | war. | Living history. | Archie Much obliged, Archie. Every little bit helps - a bit like voting! Ferg


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    Time: 09:22:26 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: IO-360-A!A Rods
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> You should read the AD. Sometimes well meaning people don't always have the right info. 66-06-03 - Connecting rod assemblies TEXTRON LYCOMING: Category - Engine Effective Date - 03/13/1966 Recurring - No Supersedes - N/A Superseded by - N/A LYCOMING: Amdt. 39-708. Applies to Model IO-360-A1A Engines with Serial Numbers 101-51 through 1231-51A, and All Engines Remanufactured by Lycoming Prior to December 1, 1964. Compliance required as indicated. To prevent further failures of connecting rod assemblies, P/N 74503 and P/N 74308, accomplish the following: (a) Replace connecting rod assemblies P/N 74503 and P/N 74308 with 200 or more hours' time in service on the effective date of this AD with connecting rod assembly P/N 75059 within the next 50 hours' time in service in accordance with Lycoming Service Bulletin No. 302 or later FAA-approved revision. (b) Replace connecting rod assemblies P/N 74503 and P/N 74308 with less than 200 hours' time in service on the effective date of this AD with connecting rod assembly P/N 75059 before the accumulation of 250 hours' time in service in accordance with Lycoming Service Bulletin No. 302 or later FAA-approved revision. Effective March 13, 1966. Revised January 16, 1969. I did NOT find a later AD but I only searched thru 2000. You can do a search on the FAA sites. Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com> Subject: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods > --> Engines-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com > > Fellow listers, > > I bought a core IO-360-A1A 200 hp angle valve engine to overhaul. It had > Lycoming part no. 75059 connecting rods. I have been told that these > rods are > not airworthy. Is this true? > > If so, does anyone have four replacements to sell me? Please reply off > list > with price. > > do not archive > > Thanks, > > Dan Hopper > Walton IN > RV-7A > > >


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    Time: 09:56:50 AM PST US
    From: Philippjw54@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Off the topic
    --> Engines-List message posted by: Philippjw54@aol.com In a message dated 2/28/2005 11:16:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, archie97@earthlink.net writes: www.northwealdevents.com I have written in support of keeping North Weald Airfield "OPEN" I hope all of you folks will do the same. Thank You Phil


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    Time: 10:03:58 AM PST US
    Subject: IO-360-A!A Rods
    From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com>
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> Please also review Mandatory Service Bulletin 439A, issued by Lycoming on 8/18/93, page five of six Part Number Description Permissable Repair/Replacement 75059 Phosphate coated rod Do not repair. Do not use. Replace with LW-10646 rods. Rhonda Bewley -----Original Message----- From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cgalley Subject: Re: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods --> Engines-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> You should read the AD. Sometimes well meaning people don't always have the right info. 66-06-03 - Connecting rod assemblies TEXTRON LYCOMING: Category - Engine Effective Date - 03/13/1966 Recurring - No Supersedes - N/A Superseded by - N/A LYCOMING: Amdt. 39-708. Applies to Model IO-360-A1A Engines with Serial Numbers 101-51 through 1231-51A, and All Engines Remanufactured by Lycoming Prior to December 1, 1964. Compliance required as indicated. To prevent further failures of connecting rod assemblies, P/N 74503 and P/N 74308, accomplish the following: (a) Replace connecting rod assemblies P/N 74503 and P/N 74308 with 200 or more hours' time in service on the effective date of this AD with connecting rod assembly P/N 75059 within the next 50 hours' time in service in accordance with Lycoming Service Bulletin No. 302 or later FAA-approved revision. (b) Replace connecting rod assemblies P/N 74503 and P/N 74308 with less than 200 hours' time in service on the effective date of this AD with connecting rod assembly P/N 75059 before the accumulation of 250 hours' time in service in accordance with Lycoming Service Bulletin No. 302 or later FAA-approved revision. Effective March 13, 1966. Revised January 16, 1969. I did NOT find a later AD but I only searched thru 2000. You can do a search on the FAA sites. Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com> Subject: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods > --> Engines-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com > > Fellow listers, > > I bought a core IO-360-A1A 200 hp angle valve engine to overhaul. It had > Lycoming part no. 75059 connecting rods. I have been told that these > rods are > not airworthy. Is this true? > > If so, does anyone have four replacements to sell me? Please reply off > list > with price. > > do not archive > > Thanks, > > Dan Hopper > Walton IN > RV-7A > > >


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    Time: 11:39:04 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: IO-360-A!A Rods
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Wonder why they didn't issue an AD for this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> Subject: RE: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" > <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> > > Please also review Mandatory Service Bulletin 439A, issued by Lycoming > on 8/18/93, page five of six > > Part Number Description Permissable > Repair/Replacement > 75059 Phosphate coated rod Do not repair. Do > not > use. > Replace > with LW-10646 rods. > > Rhonda Bewley > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cgalley > To: engines-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods > > --> Engines-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> > > You should read the AD. Sometimes well meaning people don't always have > the > right info. > > 66-06-03 - Connecting rod assemblies > TEXTRON LYCOMING: > Category - Engine Effective Date - 03/13/1966 Recurring - No > Supersedes - N/A Superseded by - N/A > LYCOMING: > Amdt. 39-708. > Applies to Model IO-360-A1A Engines with Serial Numbers 101-51 through > 1231-51A, and All Engines Remanufactured by Lycoming Prior to December > 1, > 1964. > Compliance required as indicated. > To prevent further failures of connecting rod assemblies, P/N 74503 and > P/N > 74308, accomplish the following: > (a) Replace connecting rod assemblies P/N 74503 and P/N 74308 with 200 > or > more hours' time in service on the effective date of this AD with > connecting > rod assembly P/N 75059 within the next 50 hours' time in service in > accordance with Lycoming Service Bulletin No. 302 or later FAA-approved > revision. > (b) Replace connecting rod assemblies P/N 74503 and P/N 74308 with less > than > 200 hours' time in service on the effective date of this AD with > connecting > rod assembly P/N 75059 before the accumulation of 250 hours' time in > service > in accordance with Lycoming Service Bulletin No. 302 or later > FAA-approved > revision. > Effective March 13, 1966. > Revised January 16, 1969. > > I did NOT find a later AD but I only searched thru 2000. You can do a > search on the FAA sites. > > Cy Galley > EAA Safety Programs Editor > Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com> > To: <engines-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods > > >> --> Engines-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com >> >> Fellow listers, >> >> I bought a core IO-360-A1A 200 hp angle valve engine to overhaul. It > had >> Lycoming part no. 75059 connecting rods. I have been told that these >> rods are >> not airworthy. Is this true? >> >> If so, does anyone have four replacements to sell me? Please reply > off >> list >> with price. >> >> do not archive >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan Hopper >> Walton IN >> RV-7A >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 03:30:24 PM PST US
    From: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: IO-360-A!A Rods
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net> To the best of my knowledge, they have been replaced with con rods with a cap interlock groove to eliminate fretting. When the bolts lose clamping pressure, or the guide holes elongate, the cap will move and cause fretting. With an interlocking groove, even with less clamping pressure, the cap cannot move around. If used experimentally, should not be a problem if all parameters are correct, and new bolts utilized. I rarely find rods that do not need work in this area, and have resized many to bring them back to spec. Archie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com> Subject: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods > --> Engines-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com > > Fellow listers, > > I bought a core IO-360-A1A 200 hp angle valve engine to overhaul. It had > Lycoming part no. 75059 connecting rods. I have been told that these > rods are > not airworthy. Is this true? > > If so, does anyone have four replacements to sell me? Please reply off > list > with price. > > do not archive > > Thanks, > > Dan Hopper > Walton IN > RV-7A > > >


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    Time: 08:59:36 PM PST US
    From: "red" <redswing@mcn.org>
    Subject: Re: IO-360-A!A Rods
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "red" <redswing@mcn.org> Live and learn, huh Cy? Red Hamilton ----- Original Message ----- From: cgalley To: engines-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods --> Engines-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Wonder why they didn't issue an AD for this? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> To: <engines-list@matronics.com> Subject: RE: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" > <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> > > Please also review Mandatory Service Bulletin 439A, issued by Lycoming > on 8/18/93, page five of six > > Part Number Description Permissable > Repair/Replacement > 75059 Phosphate coated rod Do not repair. Do > not > use. > Replace > with LW-10646 rods. > > Rhonda Bewley > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cgalley > To: engines-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods > > --> Engines-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> > > You should read the AD. Sometimes well meaning people don't always have > the > right info. > > 66-06-03 - Connecting rod assemblies > TEXTRON LYCOMING: > Category - Engine Effective Date - 03/13/1966 Recurring - No > Supersedes - N/A Superseded by - N/A > LYCOMING: > Amdt. 39-708. > Applies to Model IO-360-A1A Engines with Serial Numbers 101-51 through > 1231-51A, and All Engines Remanufactured by Lycoming Prior to December > 1, > 1964. > Compliance required as indicated. > To prevent further failures of connecting rod assemblies, P/N 74503 and > P/N > 74308, accomplish the following: > (a) Replace connecting rod assemblies P/N 74503 and P/N 74308 with 200 > or > more hours' time in service on the effective date of this AD with > connecting > rod assembly P/N 75059 within the next 50 hours' time in service in > accordance with Lycoming Service Bulletin No. 302 or later FAA-approved > revision. > (b) Replace connecting rod assemblies P/N 74503 and P/N 74308 with less > than > 200 hours' time in service on the effective date of this AD with > connecting > rod assembly P/N 75059 before the accumulation of 250 hours' time in > service > in accordance with Lycoming Service Bulletin No. 302 or later > FAA-approved > revision. > Effective March 13, 1966. > Revised January 16, 1969. > > I did NOT find a later AD but I only searched thru 2000. You can do a > search on the FAA sites. > > Cy Galley > EAA Safety Programs Editor > Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Hopperdhh@aol.com> > To: <engines-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Engines-List: IO-360-A!A Rods > > >> --> Engines-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com >> >> Fellow listers, >> >> I bought a core IO-360-A1A 200 hp angle valve engine to overhaul. It > had >> Lycoming part no. 75059 connecting rods. I have been told that these >> rods are >> not airworthy. Is this true? >> >> If so, does anyone have four replacements to sell me? Please reply > off >> list >> with price. >> >> do not archive >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan Hopper >> Walton IN >> RV-7A >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 09:19:58 PM PST US
    Subject: 172 Engine conversion
    From: j1j2h3@juno.com
    --> Engines-List message posted by: j1j2h3@juno.com I have flown several 172's with the 180 HP Lycomings and have liked them all. It makes it a whole 'nother airplane. The one I am flying presently will cruise at 120 kn and will climb with 30 degree flaps at about the same rate that the 160 HP would climb with no flaps (ask me how I know). I turn crosswind at 500 agl and am at pattern altitude by the time I am ready to turn downwind, flying a close pattern about 1/2 mile from the strip. I use an 80 kn climb so that I have good visibility over the nose, so I'm not even at best ROC. Fuel burn seems no greater than the 160 HP, using LASAR mags on a carbureted engine. Jim Hasper - RV-7 Giving new meaning to the term "slow build" Franklin, TN Do not archive >>-->message posted by: brian olofsson > > >>--> <brian060901@yahoo.com> > > >> > > >>Hello ot there: I'm interested in doing a conversion on my > > >>172 to 180hp. Anyone with any experience. Thanks brian > > >>


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    Time: 11:42:44 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> Engines-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Lister, Please read over the Engines-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Engines-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Engines-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Engines-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Engines-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Engines-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Engines-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Engines-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.]




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