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1. 03:07 AM - Re: OIL (Gary Casey)
2. 05:16 AM - IO540-D4A5 VS. IO540-V4A5D (Jack Sparling)
3. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: OIL (Larry Martin)
4. 08:50 AM - Re: IO540-D4A5 VS. IO540-V4A5D (Marvin Dupree)
5. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: OIL (Konrad L. Werner)
6. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: OIL (Joe Healy)
7. 06:12 PM - Re: Re: OIL (Larry Martin)
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
<<I'm always open to any body's input, so If you care to comment on which
oil
you feel is best, please do.>>
I would also like to hear from experienced users. One thing I usually do is
evaluate the oil consumption of the engine. If it is "good" then I would
consider semi-synthetic oil. If the consumption is on the high side I
usually use a "straight-weight" detergent oil. Reason? Cost. The
synthetic, because of the lower viscosity, will slightly reduce fuel
consumption, maybe by 1 or 2%. If the engine burns oil, why throw the extra
money away? Also, if the engine doesn't run very often the oil that's
thicker at ambient temp will take longer running off the cam lobes.
However, I saw an ad for some synthetic that bragged about preventing that,
so it would be interesting to get more comments. Incidentally, I've
typically used Shell, mostly because it is easier to find, but I've talked
to some that say that the Phillips oil has some advantages. There is also
folklore out there that says that engine rebuilders love Shell
semi-synthetic because of all the extra business they get from cam wear. I
don't think I buy that.
Gary Casey
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Subject: | IO540-D4A5 VS. IO540-V4A5D |
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "Jack Sparling" <jhs_61@yahoo.com>
I have an opportunity to purchase a new IO540-V4A5D for my RV-10 project and
would like to know if anyone can give me a summary of the difference between
it and the IO540-D4A5 that Van's recommends. Thank you in advance.
Jack Sparling
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
For the most part it's just preference or opinion or because it's what I've
always used. Well here's my opinion and what I currently use in all my
vehicles, including ATV, aircraft and Cummins diesel. Mobil One, 15000
miles between oil changes, easy to find. A little more expensive, but you
get what you pay for. Using cheap oil is really false economy, you pay for
it in the long run. Why be cheap with the least expensive and most
important maintenance item on your engine?
Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
Subject: Engines-List: RE: OIL
> --> Engines-List message posted by: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
>
> <<I'm always open to any body's input, so If you care to comment on which
> oil
> you feel is best, please do.>>
>
> I would also like to hear from experienced users. One thing I usually do
is
> evaluate the oil consumption of the engine. If it is "good" then I would
> consider semi-synthetic oil. If the consumption is on the high side I
> usually use a "straight-weight" detergent oil. Reason? Cost. The
> synthetic, because of the lower viscosity, will slightly reduce fuel
> consumption, maybe by 1 or 2%. If the engine burns oil, why throw the
extra
> money away? Also, if the engine doesn't run very often the oil that's
> thicker at ambient temp will take longer running off the cam lobes.
> However, I saw an ad for some synthetic that bragged about preventing
that,
> so it would be interesting to get more comments. Incidentally, I've
> typically used Shell, mostly because it is easier to find, but I've talked
> to some that say that the Phillips oil has some advantages. There is also
> folklore out there that says that engine rebuilders love Shell
> semi-synthetic because of all the extra business they get from cam wear.
I
> don't think I buy that.
>
> Gary Casey
>
>
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Subject: | Re: IO540-D4A5 VS. IO540-V4A5D |
--> Engines-List message posted by: Marvin Dupree <97corvette@cox.net>
I looked at my lycoming engines book and it looks like the engines are
setup the same. however, i would recommend you get the book and
research it better. the book no. is SSP-204 and is a lycoming
publication. The best i can see is as follows:
Book states: IO-540-D4A5 same as O-540-E4A5...260hp, 2700rpm,
100/100LL fuel, 8.50:1 compression but comes with Bendix fuel injection.
IO-540-V4A5D same as -T4B5D except for front mounted
fuel injection. -T4B5D same as -T4A5D except for fuel drain boss
location.
-T4A5D same as -D4B5 but has D6LN-3000 impulse
coupling dual Magneto and horizontal rear inlet fuel injector.
-D4B5 same as D4A5 but has -1200 series impulse
coupling magnetos.
-D4A5 same as O-540-E4A5 but with Bendix fuel
injection. (see above for specs on engine)
both engines start as an O-540-E4A5 and end up with similar
comfigurations. I suggest you call Lycoming at 800-258-3279, ask for
tech help and see what they say.
good luck
Marvin ...Mooney M20E based at 1L0
On Saturday, May 7, 2005, at 07:18 AM, Jack Sparling wrote:
> --> Engines-List message posted by: "Jack Sparling" <jhs_61@yahoo.com>
>
> I have an opportunity to purchase a new IO540-V4A5D for my RV-10
> project and
> would like to know if anyone can give me a summary of the difference
> between
> it and the IO540-D4A5 that Van's recommends. Thank you in advance.
>
> Jack Sparling
>
>
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Dear Larry,
What engine do you have in your aircraft, and what fuel type do you use with Mobil-1?
You use Mobil-1 in your Cummins Diesel as well? Which viscosity?
Konrad
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Martin
To: engines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: Engines-List: RE: OIL
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
For the most part it's just preference or opinion or because it's what I've
always used. Well here's my opinion and what I currently use in all my
vehicles, including ATV, aircraft and Cummins diesel. Mobil One, 15000
miles between oil changes, easy to find. A little more expensive, but you
get what you pay for. Using cheap oil is really false economy, you pay for
it in the long run. Why be cheap with the least expensive and most
important maintenance item on your engine?
Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Engines-List: RE: OIL
> --> Engines-List message posted by: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
>
> <<I'm always open to any body's input, so If you care to comment on which
> oil
> you feel is best, please do.>>
>
> I would also like to hear from experienced users. One thing I usually do
is
> evaluate the oil consumption of the engine. If it is "good" then I would
> consider semi-synthetic oil. If the consumption is on the high side I
> usually use a "straight-weight" detergent oil. Reason? Cost. The
> synthetic, because of the lower viscosity, will slightly reduce fuel
> consumption, maybe by 1 or 2%. If the engine burns oil, why throw the
extra
> money away? Also, if the engine doesn't run very often the oil that's
> thicker at ambient temp will take longer running off the cam lobes.
> However, I saw an ad for some synthetic that bragged about preventing
that,
> so it would be interesting to get more comments. Incidentally, I've
> typically used Shell, mostly because it is easier to find, but I've talked
> to some that say that the Phillips oil has some advantages. There is also
> folklore out there that says that engine rebuilders love Shell
> semi-synthetic because of all the extra business they get from cam wear.
I
> don't think I buy that.
>
> Gary Casey
>
>
> --
> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>
>
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com>
I have some third hand input that supports the Mobile One. For what it is
worth.
Mobile One was recommended to me by another Vari EZ driver at my airport. He
said he picked up 5 knots in his EZ just by switching to this oil.
What made him try it was some advice from a drag racing buddy. He asked,
"What is the fastest oil?" and Mobile One was the answer.
So, apparently this oil results in less friction, less heat generated and
more horsepower to the prop. Whether that means less engine wear or longer
engine life remains to be seen.
J. Healy
jhealy@socal.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
Subject: Re: Engines-List: RE: OIL
> --> Engines-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
>
> For the most part it's just preference or opinion or because it's what
I've
> always used. Well here's my opinion and what I currently use in all my
> vehicles, including ATV, aircraft and Cummins diesel. Mobil One, 15000
> miles between oil changes, easy to find. A little more expensive, but you
> get what you pay for. Using cheap oil is really false economy, you pay
for
> it in the long run. Why be cheap with the least expensive and most
> important maintenance item on your engine?
>
> Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
> To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Engines-List: RE: OIL
>
>
> > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
> >
> > <<I'm always open to any body's input, so If you care to comment on
which
> > oil
> > you feel is best, please do.>>
> >
> > I would also like to hear from experienced users. One thing I usually
do
> is
> > evaluate the oil consumption of the engine. If it is "good" then I
would
> > consider semi-synthetic oil. If the consumption is on the high side I
> > usually use a "straight-weight" detergent oil. Reason? Cost. The
> > synthetic, because of the lower viscosity, will slightly reduce fuel
> > consumption, maybe by 1 or 2%. If the engine burns oil, why throw the
> extra
> > money away? Also, if the engine doesn't run very often the oil that's
> > thicker at ambient temp will take longer running off the cam lobes.
> > However, I saw an ad for some synthetic that bragged about preventing
> that,
> > so it would be interesting to get more comments. Incidentally, I've
> > typically used Shell, mostly because it is easier to find, but I've
talked
> > to some that say that the Phillips oil has some advantages. There is
also
> > folklore out there that says that engine rebuilders love Shell
> > semi-synthetic because of all the extra business they get from cam wear.
> I
> > don't think I buy that.
> >
> > Gary Casey
> >
> >
> > --
> > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>
>
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
Subaru 2.5 in this one for now and Subaru 2.2 in my last two. I use Mobile
One 10w50 year round, it doesn't get that cold here in Arkansas. Larry,
N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
----- Original Message -----
From: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Engines-List: RE: OIL
> --> Engines-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner"
<klwerner@comcast.net>
>
> Dear Larry,
>
> What engine do you have in your aircraft, and what fuel type do you use
with Mobil-1?
> You use Mobil-1 in your Cummins Diesel as well? Which viscosity?
>
> Konrad
>
> Do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry Martin
> To: engines-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Engines-List: RE: OIL
>
>
> --> Engines-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
>
> For the most part it's just preference or opinion or because it's what
I've
> always used. Well here's my opinion and what I currently use in all my
> vehicles, including ATV, aircraft and Cummins diesel. Mobil One, 15000
> miles between oil changes, easy to find. A little more expensive, but
you
> get what you pay for. Using cheap oil is really false economy, you pay
for
> it in the long run. Why be cheap with the least expensive and most
> important maintenance item on your engine?
>
> Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
> To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Engines-List: RE: OIL
>
>
> > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Gary Casey"
<glcasey@adelphia.net>
> >
> > <<I'm always open to any body's input, so If you care to comment on
which
> > oil
> > you feel is best, please do.>>
> >
> > I would also like to hear from experienced users. One thing I usually
do
> is
> > evaluate the oil consumption of the engine. If it is "good" then I
would
> > consider semi-synthetic oil. If the consumption is on the high side I
> > usually use a "straight-weight" detergent oil. Reason? Cost. The
> > synthetic, because of the lower viscosity, will slightly reduce fuel
> > consumption, maybe by 1 or 2%. If the engine burns oil, why throw the
> extra
> > money away? Also, if the engine doesn't run very often the oil that's
> > thicker at ambient temp will take longer running off the cam lobes.
> > However, I saw an ad for some synthetic that bragged about preventing
> that,
> > so it would be interesting to get more comments. Incidentally, I've
> > typically used Shell, mostly because it is easier to find, but I've
talked
> > to some that say that the Phillips oil has some advantages. There is
also
> > folklore out there that says that engine rebuilders love Shell
> > semi-synthetic because of all the extra business they get from cam
wear.
> I
> > don't think I buy that.
> >
> > Gary Casey
> >
> >
> > --
> > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>
>
> --
> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
>
>
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