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Sat 05/21/05


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     1. 05:26 AM - Re: Install Manifold Pressure? (Gary Casey)
     2. 07:21 AM - Re: Re: Install Manifold Pressure? (n223b@comcast.net)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:26:36 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Install Manifold Pressure?
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net> <<My manifold pressure line is connected to the existing Lycoming primer port tap on the number 4 cylinder. I am told it is a standard plumbing NPT (national pipe thread) thread pattern. P.S. The primer is only piped to the two cylinders on the other side of the engine. The remaining primer port is plugged.>> Yes, it is a standard 1/8 pipe thread. Some people feel it is desirable to run primer lines to all cylinders, which eliminates the port that could be used for MAP. Also, connecting the MAP to a common point in the plenum will give a more representative pressure with less pulsations. This was actually certified as a service bulletin on the Cessna TR182 as a fix for a pulsating gauge. Problem is on a lot of engines there is no port available to do this without making one. Not hard to do, but with a certified installation not likely to be approved. Gary Casey


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    Time: 07:21:48 AM PST US
    From: n223b@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Install Manifold Pressure?
    --> Engines-List message posted by: n223b@comcast.net Actually, on some engines there is a drain port that is normally plugged at the low point on the intake plenum. Don't use this is a manifold pressure port. Amazingly, engine oil, probably from the intake guides, accumulates at the bottom of the intake manifold. If you tap into your intake manifold at the bottom you'll eventually get oil in your manifold pressure sensing apparatus. Oil in the MP system may or may not be a problem but I don't think its worth the risk. Bob -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Gary Casey" > > <> port > tap on the number 4 cylinder. I am told it is a standard plumbing NPT > (national pipe thread) thread pattern. > P.S. The primer is only piped to the two cylinders on the other side of the > engine. The remaining primer port is plugged.>> > > Yes, it is a standard 1/8 pipe thread. Some people feel it is desirable to > run primer lines to all cylinders, which eliminates the port that could be > used for MAP. Also, connecting the MAP to a common point in the plenum will > give a more representative pressure with less pulsations. This was actually > certified as a service bulletin on the Cessna TR182 as a fix for a pulsating > gauge. Problem is on a lot of engines there is no port available to do this > without making one. Not hard to do, but with a certified installation not > likely to be approved. > > Gary Casey > > > > > > Actually, on some engines there is a drain port that is normally plugged at the low point on the intake plenum. Don't use this is a manifold pressure port. Amazingly, engine oil, probably from the intake guides, accumulates at the bottom of the intake manifold. If you tap into your intake manifold at the bottom you'll eventually get oil in your manifold pressure sensing apparatus. Oil in the MP system may or may not be a problem but I don't think its worth the risk. Bob -------------- Original message -------------- -- Engines-List message posted by: "Gary Casey" <GLCASEY@ADELPHIA.NET> <MY port tap on the number 4 cylinder. I am told it is a standard plumbing NPT (national pipe thread) thread pattern. P.S. The primer is only piped to the two cylinders on the other side of the engine. The remaining primer port is plugged. Yes, it is a standard 1/8 pipe thread. Some people feel it is desirable to run primer lines to all cylinders, which eliminates the port that could be used for MAP. Also, connecting the MAP to a common point in the plenum will give a more representative pressure with less pulsations. This was actually certified as a service bullet in on the Cessna TR182 as a fix for a pulsating gauge. Problem is on a lot of engines there is no port available to do this without making one. Not hard to do, but with a certified installation not likely to be approved. Gary Casey




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