Engines-List Digest Archive

Wed 05/25/05


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 10:14 AM - Re: high egt #2 cylinder (Mike Larkin)
     2. 10:22 AM - Prop delivery? (Mike Larkin)
     3. 12:06 PM - Re: Prop delivery? (LessDragProd@aol.com)
     4. 03:07 PM - Re: Accessory Case Removal (Joe Healy)
     5. 03:38 PM - Re: Accessory Case Removal (James Ochs)
     6. 04:22 PM - Re: Accessory Case Removal (Joe Healy)
     7. 04:35 PM - Re: Accessory Case Removal (Archie)
     8. 05:10 PM - Re: Accessory Case Removal (Wes Hobbs)
     9. 10:39 PM - Need Magneto Housing (Joe Healy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:14:22 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Larkin" <mlas@cox.net>
    Subject: high egt #2 cylinder
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Mike Larkin" <mlas@cox.net> Check between the cooling fins very closely. I was dealing with a customer with a Cardinal that had a similar problem and we tried everything without success. We found that during the casting and painting of the cylinders that some of the cooling fins had some blockages and rough edges. It didn't seem like much at the time but we cleaned them up to get better air flow and the CHT came down 60-80 deg, all that by just smoothing and cleaning up the cooling fins. Mike Larkin -----Original Message----- From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Baldwin Subject: Re: Engines-List: high egt #2 cylinder --> Engines-List message posted by: James Baldwin <jamesbaldwin@dc.rr.com> Dave - Have you carefully checked the location of the EGT probe and its relative orientation to the others? You didn't mention the CHTs of all cylinders. What are they? It doesn't SOUND (emphasised because we need more data) like a mechanical issue as much as an sensing/indication issue. Did you swap EGT probes? The location of the probe in relation to the flame front from the exhaust port is really important on a RELATIVE basis. Whose system are you using? How did the plugs look relative to the other cylnders? A standard compression check, performed on a warm engine, will also tell us a lot. JBB dave wrote: >--> Engines-List message posted by: "dave" <dford@michweb.net> > >I have an IO360A!A with egt/cht probes on each cylinder. No. 2 cylinder is my hottest for both egt/cht with egt at times 300 deg hotter than #1 at times , #2 1500-1550deg while cht may be 350-400. We have changed injectors with no change, changed plugs & range no change, checked baffling, closed off oil cooler behind #4 cyl (to check baffling also)no change. Some have suggested a possible exhaust valve leak. Would this show up on a compression check with a cold engine or does it need to be warmed? > >Dave Ford >RV6 > > > > -- --


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    Time: 10:22:15 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Larkin" <mlas@cox.net>
    Subject: Prop delivery?
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Mike Larkin" <mlas@cox.net> Jim, Just checking on the status of my prop, any word on the shipment from Germany? Just tying up loose ends here and trying to staying on top of orders... Have a great day. Regards, Mike Larkin --


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    Time: 12:06:03 PM PST US
    From: LessDragProd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Prop delivery?
    --> Engines-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com Hi Mike, I'm watching for your propeller delivery pretty close myself. MT Propeller had been giving me a 10 week delivery time for most of this year. Then they gave me a six week delivery time for your propeller. About two weeks quicker than their shortest normal delivery time. Go figure. They said they had a space open on their schedule, and could complete the propeller on time. I believe your propeller delivery is waiting for your governor. I should have an update from MT Propeller this Friday. (Thursday is a national holiday in Germany.) For deliveries of customers propellers to myself for assembly, sometimes the first delivery notification has been the arrival of the boxes. UPS is faster than a FAX machine? :-) Regards, Jim Ayers In a message dated 05/25/2005 11:36:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mlas@cox.net writes: --> Engines-List message posted by: "Mike Larkin" <mlas@cox.net> Jim, Just checking on the status of my prop, any word on the shipment from Germany? Just tying up loose ends here and trying to staying on top of orders... Have a great day. Regards, Mike Larkin


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    Time: 03:07:26 PM PST US
    From: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Accessory Case Removal
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com> I am trying to remove the oil sump and accessory case from a Lycoming 0-235. I took out all the bolts but the gasket is holding it together pretty good. Does anyone have any techniques for causing it to separate without scoring the mating surfaces? Joe.


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    Time: 03:38:28 PM PST US
    From: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
    Subject: Re: Accessory Case Removal
    --> Engines-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org> I don't know the specifics of that engine, but on others I've been able to tap the part gently with a soft mallet and break the gasket loose once the bolts are completely out. James Joe Healy wrote: >--> Engines-List message posted by: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com> > >I am trying to remove the oil sump and accessory case from a Lycoming 0-235. >I took out all the bolts but the gasket is holding it together pretty good. >Does anyone have any techniques for causing it to separate without scoring >the mating surfaces? > >Joe. > > > > -- There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'


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    Time: 04:22:23 PM PST US
    From: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Accessory Case Removal
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com> I tried that with a leather mallet (a sledge hammer with a head like a dog chew bone). I didn't hit it very hard for fear of cracking the housing. I figured I should ask the experts before pounding away like a cave man. I was wondering if there was a secret kung-fu pressure point to aim for. Or maybe a Lycoming pry apart tool #2o02587a9sa87.... . My next attempt would be to try to delaminate the gasket with a single edge razor blade. Any suggestions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Ochs" <jochs@froody.org> > > I don't know the specifics of that engine, but on others I've been able > to tap the part gently with a soft mallet and break the gasket loose > once the bolts are completely out. > > James > > Joe Healy wrote: > >I am trying to remove the oil sump and accessory case from a Lycoming 0-235.


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    Time: 04:35:36 PM PST US
    From: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Accessory Case Removal
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net> On the stubborn ones, I use a putty knife, and tap it in all around the cover/sump, etc. A bit at a time, with each application 180 deg from the last. Takes a little time, but always works. Archie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Engines-List: Accessory Case Removal > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com> > > I am trying to remove the oil sump and accessory case from a Lycoming > 0-235. > I took out all the bolts but the gasket is holding it together pretty > good. > Does anyone have any techniques for causing it to separate without scoring > the mating surfaces? > > Joe. > > >


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    Time: 05:10:35 PM PST US
    From: "Wes Hobbs" <weshobbs@starband.net>
    Subject: Re: Accessory Case Removal
    clamav-milter version 0.80j on cassiopeia --> Engines-List message posted by: "Wes Hobbs" <weshobbs@starband.net> Joe, The rear case has 2 5/16" dowel pins. recomend loosen pan bolts, the it should come out easier. You might even save the pan gasket. -----Wes----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Engines-List: Accessory Case Removal > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com> > > I tried that with a leather mallet (a sledge hammer with a head like a dog > chew bone). I didn't hit it very hard for fear of cracking the housing. I > figured I should ask the experts before pounding away like a cave man. > > I was wondering if there was a secret kung-fu pressure point to aim for. > Or > maybe a Lycoming pry apart tool #2o02587a9sa87.... . > > My next attempt would be to try to delaminate the gasket with a single > edge > razor blade. Any suggestions? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Ochs" <jochs@froody.org> >> >> I don't know the specifics of that engine, but on others I've been able >> to tap the part gently with a soft mallet and break the gasket loose >> once the bolts are completely out. >> >> James >> >> Joe Healy wrote: >> >I am trying to remove the oil sump and accessory case from a Lycoming > 0-235. > > >


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    Time: 10:39:51 PM PST US
    From: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com>
    Subject: Need Magneto Housing
    --> Engines-List message posted by: "Joe Healy" <jhealy@socal.rr.com> I have a Bendix S4LN-204, Part # 10-163045-3 that has a circumferential crack right where the gasket mates to the accessory case on this Lycoming 0-235. I wonder if anyone out there has a replacement housing? Alternatively, if someone could tell me the material of this casing so I can have it welded. Is it aluminum, magnesium, or what? Thanks, (This was apparently caused during shipping when the mag was hit from behind. The blow pushed the mag into the accessory case, cracking it too. But the accessory case looks repairable. The reason the accessory case cracked was that the 2 bolts holding the accessory case to the engine, these are the only 2 bolts that go in from the prop side, were missing. Therefore, the mag pivoted about the virtical axis and applied pressure the the inner portion of the case. The 2 missing bolts left nothing to restrain this motion.)




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