---------------------------------------------------------- Engines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/28/05: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:15 AM - Please Read - Who is "Matt Dralle" and What are "The Lists"...? (Matt Dralle) 2. 08:13 AM - Used O-470 Part Source (Mark & Lisa) 3. 09:45 AM - Re: Re:Crossover exhaust. (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 4. 07:34 PM - Re: Re:Crossover exhaust. (Archie) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:12 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Engines-List: Please Read - Who is "Matt Dralle" and What are "The Lists"...? --> Engines-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer networking design and implementation. 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Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:32 AM PST US From: "Mark & Lisa" Subject: Engines-List: Used O-470 Part Source --> Engines-List message posted by: "Mark & Lisa" Listers, A friend has an airboat with an inop Cont O-470 installed. My thought is rebuild shops might have parts unsuitable for aviation use that we can use to repair this engine. Any suggestions? Thanks, Mark ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:39 AM PST US Subject: RE: Engines-List: Re:Crossover exhaust. From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Engines-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" The big argument against insulating exh pipes is that the temp of the pipes rises which leads to more expansion (lengthening of the pipe) which makes it more prone to cracks. In theory a wrapped exhaust is harder to see cracks which in theory at leats makes it more likely to give carbom monoxide issues. Having said that there are a number of wrapped exhausts around and I don't have any data to tell how much longer an unwrapped pipe lasts compared to a wrapped pipe. For me a better way to get power would be to insulate the intake tubes (on a Lycoming) as these are washed with hot cooling air from the cylinders and heads...If the exh comes close to the colw I might wrap it locally at that point. Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Archie Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re:Crossover exhaust. --> Engines-List message posted by: "Archie" We use a thermal barrier tape wrap on all NASCAR, and some other racing exhausts for several reasons. The tape keeps the driver heat down by reducing radiation. Keeps heat within pipes, which produces a minor increase in hp. Protects other parts from excessive heat. We buy in bulk, but small quantities are available from speed shops. The only drawback is if used with mild steel tubing in humid areas, can trap moisture and lead to premature corrosion. Archie ========================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re:Crossover exhaust. > --> Engines-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com > > > Hi Hans, > > Massey Aircraft did try the aluminum tape. Unfortunately, they only had > about 1/8" of clearance between the exhaust pipe and the front of the > cowl. It > didn't help enough. > > Sometimes you just have to create your own room, to get the 1" of > clearance > so the aluminum tape will work. :-) > > Regards, > Jim Ayers > > In a message dated 11/24/2005 2:06:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, > hans@jodel.com writes: > > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Hans Teijgeler" > > Sorry Jim, I had not read your email yet before sending out mine. > > Massey should really try my trick with that tape. It genuinely works, and > that for $3 and twenty minutes of work. > > Hans > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:22 PM PST US From: "Archie" Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re:Crossover exhaust. --> Engines-List message posted by: "Archie" Almost all endurance cars use an exhaust wrap for insulation and horsepower. Most also use a stainless exhaust, or in some cases, inconel, so moisture buildup is not a factor regarding metallic oxidation. I have always advocated "dump the sump" in a simple way of obtaining additional power. Have proven this some years ago when running induction outside the sump on the dyno. Archie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Subject: RE: Engines-List: Re:Crossover exhaust. > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" > > > The big argument against insulating exh pipes is that the temp of the > pipes rises which leads to more expansion (lengthening of the pipe) > which makes it more prone to cracks. > > In theory a wrapped exhaust is harder to see cracks which in theory at > leats makes it more likely to give carbom monoxide issues. > > Having said that there are a number of wrapped exhausts around and I > don't have any data to tell how much longer an unwrapped pipe lasts > compared to a wrapped pipe. > > For me a better way to get power would be to insulate the intake tubes > (on a Lycoming) as these are washed with hot cooling air from the > cylinders and heads...If the exh comes close to the colw I might wrap it > locally at that point. > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Archie > To: engines-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re:Crossover exhaust. > > --> Engines-List message posted by: "Archie" > > We use a thermal barrier tape wrap on all NASCAR, and some other racing > exhausts for several reasons. > The tape keeps the driver heat down by reducing radiation. > Keeps heat within pipes, which produces a minor increase in hp. > Protects other parts from excessive heat. > We buy in bulk, but small quantities are available from speed shops. > The only drawback is if used with mild steel tubing in humid areas, can > trap moisture and lead to premature corrosion. > Archie > ========================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Subject: Re: Engines-List: Re:Crossover exhaust. > > >> --> Engines-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com >> >> >> Hi Hans, >> >> Massey Aircraft did try the aluminum tape. Unfortunately, they only > had >> about 1/8" of clearance between the exhaust pipe and the front of the >> cowl. It >> didn't help enough. >> >> Sometimes you just have to create your own room, to get the 1" of >> clearance >> so the aluminum tape will work. :-) >> >> Regards, >> Jim Ayers >> >> In a message dated 11/24/2005 2:06:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, >> hans@jodel.com writes: >> >> --> Engines-List message posted by: "Hans Teijgeler" > >> >> Sorry Jim, I had not read your email yet before sending out mine. >> >> Massey should really try my trick with that tape. It genuinely works, > and >> that for $3 and twenty minutes of work. >> >> Hans >> >> >> > > >