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1. 03:34 AM - Stuck Plug- Follow-Up Question (Alexander, Don)
2. 05:06 AM - Re: Stuck Spark Plug (Archie)
3. 05:24 AM - Re: Stuck Spark Plug (Mike Lehman)
4. 06:39 AM - Re: Stuck Spark Plug (longg@pjm.com)
5. 08:13 AM - Re: Stuck Spark Plug (Dave Nellis)
6. 10:48 AM - Re: Stuck Spark Plug (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
7. 10:50 AM - Re: Stuck Spark Plug (TeamGrumman@aol.com)
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Subject: | Stuck Plug- Follow-Up Question |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Alexander, Don" <Don.Alexander@astenjohnson.com>
Thanks for all of the ideas. I will continue to soak the plug and see
if we can break her free.
Regards,
Don
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Subject: | Re: Stuck Spark Plug |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Archie" <archie97@earthlink.net>
Aircraft plug manufacturers recommend using
a light anti seize compound on the threads, avoiding
getting any on the "nose" of the plug.
Most have their own, which is a bit thinner than
the more conventional anti-seize.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd@vansairforce.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: Engines-List: Stuck Spark Plug
> --> Engines-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
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> On automotive engines I have always used Copaslip or a similar,
> high-temperature anti-sieze compound on the spark plug threads. But many
> years
> ago someone told that that this is a bad idea on engines with air cooled
> cylinder heads, due to lowering the heat transfer between the plug and the
> head. I've always thought this advice had "old wives tale" written all
> over
> it, but it has nevertheless prevented me from using anti-sieze compound on
> aircraft engines. Am I worried about nothing?
>
> ---
>
> Tedd McHenry
> Surrey, BC, Canada
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Subject: | Re: Stuck Spark Plug |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Mike Lehman" <lehmans@sympatico.ca>
Tedd,
It is more important to use anti-seize on air cooled aircraft engines
because the aluminum head and therefore the threaded head-to-plug joint runs
much hotter than with liquid cooled engines.
I not seen any evidence that anti-seize affects plug temperature; it might
even reduce it by increasing thread contact area with the head. In any
event, I believe that any such change is negligible relative to other
factors.
I use anti-seize on all spark plugs used with aluminum heads (both air and
liquid cooled), either the usual paste type or plain graphite powder. I
suggest that the very long plug maintenance intervals with modern cars and
poor access with most V engines (to the plugs for 'rear' cylinders) makes
anti-seize increasingly important.
Mike ('with' aluminum Lycoming and aluminum auto heads)
--> Engines-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
On automotive engines I have always used Copaslip or a similar,
high-temperature anti-sieze compound on the spark plug threads. But many
years
ago someone told that that this is a bad idea on engines with air cooled
cylinder heads, due to lowering the heat transfer between the plug and the
head. I've always thought this advice had "old wives tale" written all over
it, but it has nevertheless prevented me from using anti-sieze compound on
aircraft engines. Am I worried about nothing?
---
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
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Subject: | Stuck Spark Plug |
--> Engines-List message posted by: longg@pjm.com
Don't bother, just add heat. I noticed you live in B.C.; Add more heat than
usual.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tedd McHenry
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: Engines-List: Stuck Spark Plug
--> Engines-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
On automotive engines I have always used Copaslip or a similar, high-temperature
anti-sieze compound on the spark plug threads. But many years ago someone told
that that this is a bad idea on engines with air cooled cylinder heads, due to
lowering the heat transfer between the plug and the head. I've always thought
this advice had "old wives tale" written all over it, but it has nevertheless
prevented me from using anti-sieze compound on aircraft engines. Am I worried
about nothing?
---
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
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Subject: | Re: Stuck Spark Plug |
--> Engines-List message posted by: Dave Nellis <truflite@yahoo.com>
On our club aircraft, we do 50 hour inspections and
oil changes. Every inspection includes spark plug
cleaning and regapping. Before the plugs are
re-installed, a very small amount of Champion Spark
Plug Lubricant is applied to the threads. I must
emphasize, a very small amount is used. Over a period
of 2000 hours, that amounts 40 times the spark plugs
are removed and re-installed.
Dave
--- Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org> wrote:
> --> Engines-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry
> <tedd@vansairforce.org>
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> On automotive engines I have always used Copaslip or
> a similar,
> high-temperature anti-sieze compound on the spark
> plug threads. But many years
> ago someone told that that this is a bad idea on
> engines with air cooled
> cylinder heads, due to lowering the heat transfer
> between the plug and the
> head. I've always thought this advice had "old
> wives tale" written all over
> it, but it has nevertheless prevented me from using
> anti-sieze compound on
> aircraft engines. Am I worried about nothing?
>
> ---
>
> Tedd McHenry
> Surrey, BC, Canada
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Subject: | Re: Stuck Spark Plug |
--> Engines-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
I use the Permatex 'silver' anti-seize compound. I've never had any
problems with it.
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Subject: | Re: Stuck Spark Plug |
--> Engines-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
I did have a plug stick in a cylinder head on an O540 in a Commanche. When
the plug came out, the heli-coil came with it. THe owner claimed he always
used the Champion anti-seize. I've always used the Permatex anti-seize and
I've been very happy with it.
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