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1. 02:31 AM - Sump Question (Graham Nutt)
2. 10:00 AM - Re: Sump Question (TeamGrumman@AOL.COM)
3. 01:16 PM - Confusion over ECI Cylinder AD (Rhonda Bewley)
4. 01:35 PM - Re: Confusion over ECI Cylinder AD (James Ball)
5. 01:45 PM - Re: Confusion over ECI Cylinder AD (Rhonda Bewley)
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--> Engines-List message posted by: "Graham Nutt" <graham@trace.com.au>
I have an IO-360B1B engine with forward facing injector. Not sure if
they had this as standard or if it was modified by Lycon. On the back of
the sump is a similar sized boss (about 3/4" thick with 4 holes drilled
and tapped at the same spacing as the injector body mounting studs but
there is no bore for induction.
The front boss appears to be welded on while the rear one seems to be an
integral part of the sump casting.
My problem is that the lower left corner of this interferes with my
mount (but not by much).
My options are to rework the mount (ouch) or take a bevel cut on the
boss but I have no idea how much material is available. This cut would
be about from the inside edge of the threaded hole at about 45 degrees
to the left edge and bottom edge of the boss tapering outward so as not
to go into the sump body.
Does anyone have experience with this.
Thanks
Graham Nutt
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| Subject: | Re: Sump Question |
--> Engines-List message posted by: TeamGrumman@aol.com
The B1B was an updraft. Call Ken at LyCon and ask him. 559-651-1070
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| Subject: | Confusion over ECI Cylinder AD |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com>
I'm confused about information we received from ECI on the AD for the
standard cast cylinders. We have a set of ECI cylinders that have 1
hour of dyno time on them and were pulled off the customer's engine.
The cylinders originally cost us $951 each for a total of $5,706. Now
ECI is saying they will give us a 40% discount on new Titan assemblies
which means we will have to pay an additional $544.80 per cylinder
assembly. That means I'll have $8974.80 in a set of six cylinders that
would only cost me $5448 to begin with. There's no way! Has anyone out
there received similar communications from ECI?
Rhonda Barrett-Bewley
Barrett Precision Engines, Inc.
2870-B N. Sheridan Rd.
Tulsa, OK 74115
(918) 835-1089 phone
(918) 835-1754 fax
www.barrettprecisionengines.com
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| Subject: | Confusion over ECI Cylinder AD |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "James Ball" <jball@eci2fly.com>
Rhonda,
The discount is 60% for any cylinders under 800 hrs. plus a pro-rated
labor amount that can be deducted from the cylinder cost. Say you have 4
steel Classic Case cylinders that are affected with 800 hrs, the total
cost for 4 complete assemblies, all new parts would be $1,216. That's
$304.00 each. For cylinders with O time or just dyno time, ECi will
replace them with new Titan cylinders at not charge at all.
Details on identification of affected cylinders can be found on the ECi
service bulletin # MSB 05-8 posted at eci2fly.com under technical
reference materials.
Kind Regards,
Jim Ball
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda
Bewley
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:13 PM
Subject: Engines-List: Confusion over ECI Cylinder AD
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley"
--> <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com>
I'm confused about information we received from ECI on the AD for the
standard cast cylinders. We have a set of ECI cylinders that have 1
hour of dyno time on them and were pulled off the customer's engine.
The cylinders originally cost us $951 each for a total of $5,706. Now
ECI is saying they will give us a 40% discount on new Titan assemblies
which means we will have to pay an additional $544.80 per cylinder
assembly. That means I'll have $8974.80 in a set of six cylinders that
would only cost me $5448 to begin with. There's no way! Has anyone out
there received similar communications from ECI?
Rhonda Barrett-Bewley
Barrett Precision Engines, Inc.
2870-B N. Sheridan Rd.
Tulsa, OK 74115
(918) 835-1089 phone
(918) 835-1754 fax
www.barrettprecisionengines.com
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| Subject: | Confusion over ECI Cylinder AD |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com>
Thanks for the clarification. It's the exact opposite of a written
response I have from Joe in your warranty department. I do appreciate
the response.
Rhonda
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Ball
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: Engines-List: Confusion over ECI Cylinder AD
--> Engines-List message posted by: "James Ball" <jball@eci2fly.com>
Rhonda,
The discount is 60% for any cylinders under 800 hrs. plus a pro-rated
labor amount that can be deducted from the cylinder cost. Say you have 4
steel Classic Case cylinders that are affected with 800 hrs, the total
cost for 4 complete assemblies, all new parts would be $1,216. That's
$304.00 each. For cylinders with O time or just dyno time, ECi will
replace them with new Titan cylinders at not charge at all.
Details on identification of affected cylinders can be found on the ECi
service bulletin # MSB 05-8 posted at eci2fly.com under technical
reference materials.
Kind Regards,
Jim Ball
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rhonda
Bewley
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:13 PM
Subject: Engines-List: Confusion over ECI Cylinder AD
--> Engines-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley"
--> <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com>
I'm confused about information we received from ECI on the AD for the
standard cast cylinders. We have a set of ECI cylinders that have 1
hour of dyno time on them and were pulled off the customer's engine.
The cylinders originally cost us $951 each for a total of $5,706. Now
ECI is saying they will give us a 40% discount on new Titan assemblies
which means we will have to pay an additional $544.80 per cylinder
assembly. That means I'll have $8974.80 in a set of six cylinders that
would only cost me $5448 to begin with. There's no way! Has anyone out
there received similar communications from ECI?
Rhonda Barrett-Bewley
Barrett Precision Engines, Inc.
2870-B N. Sheridan Rd.
Tulsa, OK 74115
(918) 835-1089 phone
(918) 835-1754 fax
www.barrettprecisionengines.com
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