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1. 05:23 AM - Landoll Balancer? (Michael)
2. 06:28 AM - Re: Landoll Balancer? (n801bh@netzero.com)
3. 07:40 AM - wood prop vs metal with Landoll Harmonic Dampener (Michael)
4. 01:23 PM - Re: Landoll Balancer? (Archie)
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| Subject: | Landoll Balancer? |
> (am assuming you are using a metal prop, as wooden props really do
not
need such a device).
> BTW, it is not a "balancer", as it balances nothing. It is actually a
"harmonic dampener".
> Catch my forums at OSH for what it actually does.
Opps: I believe it is the other way around: you need something
flywheel-like
up front to make up for lack of weight and inertia of a wood prop.
Something
like a Landoll dampener would not be necessary with a METAL (flywheel)
prop
as the weight and inertia is already there.
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Landoll Balancer? |
Actually Archie is correct, the device is a harmonic dampener, or to put
it different it absorbs alot of unwanted vibrations which in effect smo
oths out the power pulses. A balancer is usually a static action to corr
ect a shaking motion, the harmonic balancer is an active device doing it
s thing as the engine runs.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Michael" <cubflyr@comcast.net> wrote:
> (am assuming you are using a metal prop, as wooden props really do no
t need such a device). > BTW, it is not a "balancer", as it balances no
thing. It is actually a "harmonic dampener". > Catch my forums at OSH f
or what it actually does. Opps: I believe it is the other way around: y
ou need something flywheel-like up front to make up for lack of weight a
nd inertia of a wood prop. Something like a Landoll dampener would not b
e necessary with a METAL (flywheel) prop as the weight and inertia is al
ready there. Michael
<html>Actually Archie is correct, the device is a harmonic dampener, or
to put it different it absorbs alot of unwanted vibrations which in
effect smooths out the power pulses. A balancer is usually a static&nbs
p;action to correct a shaking motion, the harmonic balancer is an active
device doing its thing as the engine runs. <BR><BR><BR>Ben Ha
as<BR>N801BH<BR>www.haaspowerair.com<BR><BR>-- "Michael" <c
ubflyr@comcast.net> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=281041612-06062006> > </SPAN>(am assumin
g you are using a metal prop, as wooden props really do not need such a
device).<SPAN class=281041612-06062006> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=281041612-06062006> > </SPAN>BTW, it is
not a "balancer", as it balances nothing. It is actually a "harmonic dam
pener".<SPAN class=281041612-06062006> </SPAN></DIV>
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rums at OSH for what it actually does.<SPAN class=281041612-06062006>&
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<DIV><SPAN class=281041612-06062006>Opps: I believe it is the other wa
y around: you need something flywheel-like up front to make up for
lack of weight and inertia of a wood prop. Something like a Landoll
dampener would not be necessary with a METAL (flywheel) prop as th
e weight and inertia is already there. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=281041612-06062006></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=281041612-06062006>Michael </SPAN></DIV></html>
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| Subject: | wood prop vs metal with Landoll Harmonic Dampener |
Right: but it is NOT necessary with a metal prop. As you say, the
dampener
ABSORBS pulses which a wooden prop has difficulty with as the mass is
not as
great as a metal prop, thus there is less to absorb the pulses into. The
Harmonic Whatever is not needed with a metal prop; it is not necessary
with
a wood prop either but nice to have, especially the light ones on
experimental aircraft such as an RV.
Michael
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Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: Engines-List: Landoll Balancer?
Actually Archie is correct, the device is a harmonic dampener, or to put
it
different it absorbs alot of unwanted vibrations which in effect smooths
out
the power pulses. A balancer is usually a static action to correct a
shaking
motion, the harmonic balancer is an active device doing its thing as the
engine runs.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Michael" <cubflyr@comcast.net> wrote:
> (am assuming you are using a metal prop, as wooden props really do
not
need such a device).
> BTW, it is not a "balancer", as it balances nothing. It is actually a
"harmonic dampener".
> Catch my forums at OSH for what it actually does.
Opps: I believe it is the other way around: you need something
flywheel-like
up front to make up for lack of weight and inertia of a wood prop.
Something
like a Landoll dampener would not be necessary with a METAL (flywheel)
prop
as the weight and inertia is already there.
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Landoll Balancer? |
MessageI work with these on a regular basis, and can assure you the a
wooden prop will
absorb and dissipate orders of harmonics where a metal prop will not.
That is not to say it cannot be used, however.
The dampener may add some flywheel effect but why would anyone install
it for that
purpose? We are not incorporating it for flywheel effect. The purpose of
any dampener
is to absorb torque spikes which are generated in every internal
combustion piston engine.
Archie
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael
To: engines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 8:19 AM
Subject: Engines-List: Landoll Balancer?
> (am assuming you are using a metal prop, as wooden props really do
not need such a device).
> BTW, it is not a "balancer", as it balances nothing. It is actually
a "harmonic dampener".
> Catch my forums at OSH for what it actually does.
Opps: I believe it is the other way around: you need something
flywheel-like up front to make up for lack of weight and inertia of a
wood prop. Something like a Landoll dampener would not be necessary with
a METAL (flywheel) prop as the weight and inertia is already there.
Michael
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