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1. 08:03 PM - Re: DeltaHawk Diesel and RV's (Charlie England)
2. 08:33 PM - Re: DeltaHawk Diesel and RV's (John Swartout)
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| Subject: | Re: DeltaHawk Diesel and RV's |
--> Engines-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Martin Sobel wrote:
>--> Engines-List message posted by: Martin Sobel <rv8vator@comcast.net>
>
>I just returned from OSH.
>
>I have been looking at the 180 hp DeltaHawk Diesel over the past several
>years.
>
>See: http://www.deltahawkengines.com
>
>Despite the difficulty of a brand new engine, I feel the benefits of this
>diesel are too numerous to overlook. It will pay for itself by the time a
>Lycoming is due for an overhaul. This forecast was made with last years fuel
>prices.
>
>I spoke with both DeltaHawk and Curt LoPresti of LoPresti Speed Merchants
><http://www.speedmods.com> about LoPresti designing both an engine mount and
>cowl for the RV-8. If I can get a sufficient number of builders interested
>in the DeltaHawk engine, LoPresti has agreed to design an engine mount and
>Cowl.
>
>One of LoPrestis concerns about getting into the homebuilt market is that
>it is very easy to rip off a design for a cowl or fairing. A production
>engine would need an STCd design. Selling only firewall forward kits might
>help solve this problem. Any other ideas?
>
>MT has a constant speed propeller on the DeltaHawk Velocity. Aero Composites
><http://www.aerocomposites.com> will be supplying a test propeller shortly.
>
>I am hoping to get some support from Vans in identifying builders who might
>be interested in taking the plunge, but as you may know, Van has not been
>too supportive of alternative engines.
>
>I have also spoken with DeltaHawk about starting a Yahoo Group for their
>engines.
>
>Should there be sufficient interest to proceed with this program I will
>visit DeltaHawk for a first hand view of their engine and its progress. The
>180 hp engine will be perfect for the RV-8/A. A properly designed cowl
>should yield additional speed or economies. I dont think that there is a
>better design company than LoPresti.
>
>As a back up, I also spoke with Sam James. He said that they were very busy,
>but he would talk with me. His location is not too far from me, nor is
>LoPresti for that matter.
>
>Id also appreciate any ideas in getting this word out to RV builders. I may
>be that RV 7 and 9 builders could also benefit from this program.
>
>Martin Sobel
>7040 Treymore Court
>Sarasota, FL 34243-5500
>941-359-8693
>941-539-4806 (Cell)
>941-355-7732 (Fax)
>614-789-4325 (thru 8/23/06)
>
I spent some time talking to them, also. If they will ever have a little
zen moment of enlightenment & realize that they've got to beat the Lyc
price point to sell any volume, they will likely sell a lot of engines.
(No government money involvement is an encouraging sign.)
I'm building a -7. Motor mount & cooling system are much bigger concerns
to me than the custom cowl.
If you aren't too far along, keep an eye on Mistral. they are pretty far
along in the certification process on a Wankel (Mazda) rotary, & intend
to build a spark assisted diesel version after certification is
completed on the gas version.
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| Subject: | DeltaHawk Diesel and RV's |
--> Engines-List message posted by: "John Swartout" <jgswartout@earthlink.net>
Charlie England wrote: (8/3/06)
---snip---
>If you aren't too far along, keep an eye on Mistral. they are pretty far
>along in the certification process on a Wankel (Mazda) rotary, & intend
>to build a spark assisted diesel version after certification is
>completed on the gas version.
Whew! Talk about price point!
I love the whole idea of an aviation rotary, but last time I looked, weren't
they asking $29,000 or so? (Oops...$31,500 for the 190 hp.) Same reason I
gave up my delivery position for the $19,000 DeltaHawk which in the event
turned out to be $29,000. Finally bought an ECI O-360 from Mattituck for
$18k.
John
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