Engines-List Digest Archive

Tue 05/22/07


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 05:15 AM - Re: Sniffle valve (Gary Casey)
     2. 05:29 AM - Re: Re: Sniffle valve (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 08:23 AM - Re: Sniffle valve (Monty Barrett Sr)
     4. 01:22 PM - IO-360 Engine, Instruments, Ignition (Doug Dodson)
     5. 11:54 PM - Re: Sniffle valve (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:15:37 AM PST US
    From: Gary Casey <glcasey@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Sniffle valve
    I assume most Lycoming installations (at least the 3 that I have owned) just use a simple drain, so there is a "leak" the size of the tube when the engine is running. The idle speed and mixture adjustments compensate, so no one seems to worry. A sniffle valve would presumably reduce that leak, but apparently isn't necessary. Gary Casey > > I am installing a Lycoming sniffle valve (included in Vans FWF kit) > to an > Aerosport IO-360 and would like to confirm its inteded operation. > I "think" it > > is basically a check valve that should open when manifold pressure > is equal to > > atmospheric (engine not running) to drain any fuel pooled in the > sump. Engine > > running, it should close when manifold pressure drops. The valve I > have > flows freely when blowing into the sump side, but still passes a > bit of air when > > blown into from the tube side, which I surmise would constitute a > small vacuum > > leak and possible leaner than normal operation. > > Is this normal? > > Thanks- > Mark


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    Time: 05:29:33 AM PST US
    From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Sniffle valve
    The engines I'm familiar with all call for a sniffle valve, that looks like a standard AN 90 degree fitting. I don't know how well it is supposed to seal after fuel and gunk have drained through it for a few years. On 5/22/07, Gary Casey <glcasey@adelphia.net> wrote: > > I assume most Lycoming installations (at least the 3 that I have > owned) just use a simple drain, so there is a "leak" the size of the > tube when the engine is running. The idle speed and mixture > adjustments compensate, so no one seems to worry. A sniffle valve > would presumably reduce that leak, but apparently isn't necessary. > Gary Casey > > > > > I am installing a Lycoming sniffle valve (included in Vans FWF kit) > > to an > > Aerosport IO-360 and would like to confirm its inteded operation. > > I "think" it > > > > is basically a check valve that should open when manifold pressure > > is equal to > > > > atmospheric (engine not running) to drain any fuel pooled in the > > sump. Engine > > > > running, it should close when manifold pressure drops. The valve I > > have > > flows freely when blowing into the sump side, but still passes a > > bit of air when > > > > blown into from the tube side, which I surmise would constitute a > > small vacuum > > > > leak and possible leaner than normal operation. > > > > Is this normal? > > > > Thanks- > > Mark > >


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    Time: 08:23:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Sniffle valve
    From: "Monty Barrett Sr" <MONTY@bpaengines.com>
    If you have a small leak at the " sniffle " valve it will only effect you at idle and can be compensated with idle mixture adjustment. At WOT the engine doesn't care as long as the leak is small. A big hole is another story. Monty Barrett BPE, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fiveonepw@aol.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Engines-List: Sniffle valve I am installing a Lycoming sniffle valve (included in Vans FWF kit) to an Aerosport IO-360 and would like to confirm its inteded operation. I "think" it is basically a check valve that should open when manifold pressure is equal to atmospheric (engine not running) to drain any fuel pooled in the sump. Engine running, it should close when manifold pressure drops. The valve I have flows freely when blowing into the sump side, but still passes a bit of air when blown into from the tube side, which I surmise would constitute a small vacuum leak and possible leaner than normal operation. Is this normal? Thanks- Mark ________________________________ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .


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    Time: 01:22:21 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Dodson" <douglas.dodson@pobox.com>
    Subject: IO-360 Engine, Instruments, Ignition
    My Glasair has reached a new stage of construction, I have dis-assembled it for final work in the interior of the fuselage and painting. I have taken so long to build this thing, I can now afford different choices for certain components I could not afford when I started. What that means to all of you is the opportunity to get some bargains on components I will not use when I do the final assembly on my airplane. E-mail me at douglas.dodson@pobox.com for more information or photos of any of the equipment. IO-360-B1E: assembled engine, overhauled several years ago but never run, most but not all accessories included (most would suffice for core value) Lycoming core value on this engine is $10,500. I'm asking $12,000. Elector-Air electronic ignition system w/ hall effect pickup. Included is the full system and instruction manual. Never used. $400 Buy the engine and you can have this. VM 1000 system for an IO-360. This is brand new, most of the components have not been removed from the original packaging. A few of the senders were installed but never used. It sells new for about $3000. I'm asking $1900. Included is the DPU, display, all senders including fuel flow, wiring, and the manual. I also have the fuel level system which is a separate display capable of indicating for 3 tanks, and one 8' probe. This can be yours for $350 (probe retail new is $500 all by itself). I also have an ACK A-30 altitude encoder and a Rapco vacuum pump cooling kit. Buy something else and you can have these for a beer and the cost of shipping. Douglas L. Dodson, Jr. Glasair II-S FT Flight Test Engineer, CFI-A,G


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    Time: 11:54:26 PM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sniffle valve
    In a message dated 5/22/2007 10:25:10 AM Central Daylight Time, MONTY@bpaengines.com writes: If you have a small leak at the =9C sniffle =9C valve it will on ly effect you at idle and can be compensated with idle mixture adjustment. At WOT the engine doesn=99t care as long as the leak is small. A big hole is another st ory. >>>> Thanks to all respondents- good discussion. Primary concern was a defective part, but it don't sound like a biggie- I'm puttin' the sucker in since it's paid for and shouldn't make the plane fall out of the sky! 8-) Mark do not archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com .




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