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     1. 07:21 AM - Re: Easy - too easy (Larry Mac Donald)
     2. 08:19 AM - Re: Easy - too easy (Fergus Kyle)
     3. 10:25 AM - Re: Easy - too easy (jrc)
     4. 11:36 AM - Re: Easy - too easy (Noel Loveys)
     5. 01:10 PM - Centigrade to Fahrenheit (Michael)
     6. 01:50 PM - Re: Easy - too easy (Konrad L. Werner)
     7. 02:11 PM - Re: Easy - too easy (jrc)
     8. 02:16 PM - Re: Centigrade to Fahrenheit (jrc)
     9. 03:00 PM - Re: Easy - too easy (Noel Loveys)
    10. 04:35 PM - Re: Centigrade to Fahrenheit (Mike)
    11. 05:38 PM - Re: Easy - too easy (steve korney)
    12. 06:06 PM - Re: Easy - too easy (Kelly McMullen)
    13. 06:22 PM - Re: Easy - too easy (jrc)
    14. 06:39 PM - Re: Easy - too easy ()
    15. 07:05 PM - Re: Easy - too easy (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
    16. 07:31 PM - Re: Easy - too easy (Dave Nellis)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Easy - too easy | 
      
      
      Hi Folks,
              Guess I missed most of this thread. Are we trying to mentally
      convert Fahrenheit to Centigrade ? 
      
      Larry Mac Donald
      lm4@juno.com
      Rochester N.Y.
      Do not archive
      
      On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:28:28 -0400 "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> writes:
      > 
      > My old math teacher said " When it's easy, be wise, do it twice."
      > 
      > Example:
      > 30c x 2 = 60,
      > minus 10%  (60-6=56),
      > 56 + 32 = 86F
       Do it in your head easy
       Second time, I don't think so.
       Cheers, Ferg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Easy - too easy | 
      
      
      Right, Larry,
               Basically, the topic was an easy way to convert. However you can see the
      arithmatic  fialed and although the answer was correct, the math wasn't. I
      was just noting that the easier the arithmatic, the greater the need to do it
      twice.....
      Cheers, Ferg
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=120344#120344
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Easy - too easy | 
      
      
      I'm afraid I miss the point.  This is indeed the easiest way to mentally 
      convert from C to F, and is so quick that you can do it as fast as you say 
      it.
      JimC
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      Subject: Re: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      
      
      >
      > Hi Folks,
      >        Guess I missed most of this thread. Are we trying to mentally
      > convert Fahrenheit to Centigrade ?
      >
      >> My old math teacher said " When it's easy, be wise, do it twice."
      >>
      >> Example:
      >> 30c x 2 = 60,
      >> minus 10%  (60-6=56),
      >> 56 + 32 = 86F
      > Do it in your head easy
      > Second time, I don't think so.
      > Cheers, Ferg 
      
      
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      The first time I've seen it expressed that way
      
      Noel
      VO1 PL
      
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com 
      > [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
      > Fergus Kyle
      > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:58 PM
      > To: engines
      > Subject: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > My old math teacher said " When it's easy, be wise, do it twice."
      > 
      > Example:
      > 30c x 2 = 60,
      > minus 10%  (60-6=56),
      > 56 + 32 = 86F
      > 
      > Do it in your head easy
      > 
      > Second time, I don't think so.
      > Cheers, Ferg
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Centigrade to Fahrenheit | 
      
      
      I was taught, eh, by two Canadians, eh to double the Centigrade, eh, and add
      it to 32 to get Fahrenheit, eh. Easy, eh? Not exact but close enough, eh?
      
      Michael, eh
      
      What two Canadians, eh? The Mackenzie Brothers, of course, eh?
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Easy - too easy | 
      
      60 - 6  *IS NOT*  56,  but rather equals 54,  no???
      And 56 + 32 = 88, and not 86.
      
      But it looks like two wrongs can make things right after all.....
        > Example:
        > 30c x 2 = 60,
        > minus 10%  (60-6=56),
        > 56 + 32 = 86F
        > 
        > Do it in your head easy
        > 
        > Second time, I don't think so.
        > Cheers, Ferg
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Easy - too easy | 
      
      
      It's the way I've always done it.
      JimC
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:35 PM
      Subject: RE: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      
      
      > 
      > The first time I've seen it expressed that way
      > 
      > Noel
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Centigrade to Fahrenheit | 
      
      
      No.  It can be pretty far off.  For example, for 100 C it would give 232 F 
      and would be too high by 20 F, giving 232 instead of 212.  The correct 
      answer would be 200-20+32 = 212.  It takes perhaps one second longer to do 
      the exact conversion.
      JimC
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Michael" <cubflyr@comcast.net>
      Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 2:06 PM
      Subject: Engines-List: Centigrade to Fahrenheit
      
      
      >
      > I was taught, eh, by two Canadians, eh to double the Centigrade, eh, and 
      > add
      > it to 32 to get Fahrenheit, eh. Easy, eh? Not exact but close enough, eh?
      >
      > Michael, 
      
      
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      (9/5C) +32=F
      
      (F-32)(5/9)=C
      
      That's the way I was shown... A bit bulky for doing without paper or a
      calculator.  Yours is definitely easier.  I tried it on -40C =-40F,  0C=32F,
      20C=68F, 100C=212F all worked correctly.
      
      Noel
      
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com 
      > [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jrc
      > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 6:41 PM
      > To: engines-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > It's the way I've always done it.
      > JimC
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      > To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:35 PM
      > Subject: RE: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      > 
      > 
      > <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      > > 
      > > The first time I've seen it expressed that way
      > > 
      > > Noel
      > > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Centigrade to Fahrenheit | 
      
      
      Just to add what Jim left out, the -20 came from the 100+100 0
      (-10%=-20) or 180+32=212.  Another example: 0+0=0,  0-10%(0)=0, +32, and
      15+15=30-10%(3)=27+32=59.  So the formula is: ((Deg.C*2)-10%)+32=Deg.F
      
      Mike
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jrc
      Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 2:15 PM
      Subject: Re: Engines-List: Centigrade to Fahrenheit
      
      
      No.  It can be pretty far off.  For example, for 100 C it would give 232
      F 
      and would be too high by 20 F, giving 232 instead of 212.  The correct 
      answer would be 200-20+32 = 212.  It takes perhaps one second longer to
      do 
      the exact conversion.
      JimC
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Michael" <cubflyr@comcast.net>
      Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 2:06 PM
      Subject: Engines-List: Centigrade to Fahrenheit
      
      
      >
      > I was taught, eh, by two Canadians, eh to double the Centigrade, eh,
      and 
      > add
      > it to 32 to get Fahrenheit, eh. Easy, eh? Not exact but close enough,
      eh?
      >
      > Michael, 
      
      
      -- 
      3:15 PM
      
      
      -- 
      3:15 PM
      
      
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      Now try it backwards... to get back to Cent.
      
      
      Best... Steve
      
      
      ----Original Message Follows----
      From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      Subject: RE: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      
      
      (9/5C) +32=F
      
      (F-32)(5/9)=C
      
      That's the way I was shown... A bit bulky for doing without paper or a
      calculator.  Yours is definitely easier.  I tried it on -40C =-40F,  0C=32F,
      20C=68F, 100C=212F all worked correctly.
      
      Noel
      
       > -----Original Message-----
       > From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
       > [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jrc
       > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 6:41 PM
       > To: engines-list@matronics.com
       > Subject: Re: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
       >
       >
       >
       > It's the way I've always done it.
       > JimC
       > ----- Original Message -----
       > From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
       > To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
       > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:35 PM
       > Subject: RE: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
       >
       >
       > <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
       > >
       > > The first time I've seen it expressed that way
       > >
       > > Noel
       > >
       >
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| Subject:  | Re: Easy - too easy | 
      
      
      One example will show it only gets you within 10%.
      -40F=-40C
      -40-32/2=-36 does not equal -40.
      
      On 6/24/07, steve korney <s_korney@hotmail.com> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Now try it backwards... to get back to Cent.
      >
      >
      > Best... Steve
      >
      >
      > ----Original Message Follows----
      > From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      > To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: RE: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      > Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:29:33 -0230
      >
      >
      > (9/5C) +32=F
      >
      > (F-32)(5/9)=C
      >
      > That's the way I was shown... A bit bulky for doing without paper or a
      > calculator.  Yours is definitely easier.  I tried it on -40C =-40F,  0C=32F,
      > 20C=68F, 100C=212F all worked correctly.
      >
      > Noel
      >
      >  > -----Original Message-----
      >  > From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
      >  > [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jrc
      >  > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 6:41 PM
      >  > To: engines-list@matronics.com
      >  > Subject: Re: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      >  >
      >  >
      >  >
      >  > It's the way I've always done it.
      >  > JimC
      >  > ----- Original Message -----
      >  > From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      >  > To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
      >  > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:35 PM
      >  > Subject: RE: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      >  >
      >  >
      >  > <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      >  > >
      >  > > The first time I've seen it expressed that way
      >  > >
      >  > > Noel
      >  > >
      >  >
      >  >
      >  >
      >  >
      >  >
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| Subject:  | Re: Easy - too easy | 
      
      
      That's because it's exactly the same equation, just configured differently. 
      9/5X is the same as 2X-2X/10.  Both equal 1.8X
      JimC
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:59 PM
      Subject: RE: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      
      
      >
      > (9/5C) +32=F
      >
      > (F-32)(5/9)=C
      >
      > That's the way I was shown... A bit bulky for doing without paper or a
      > calculator.  Yours is definitely easier.  I tried it on -40C =-40F, 
      > 0C=32F,
      > 20C=68F, 100C=212F all worked correctly.
      >
      > Noel 
      
      
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      Rule of thumb is easiest. Double it and add 30. Normally accurate within
      1-2 degrees. Opposite for converting back.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-engines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jrc
      Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:22 PM
      Subject: Re: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      
      
      
      That's because it's exactly the same equation, just configured
      differently. 
      9/5X is the same as 2X-2X/10.  Both equal 1.8X
      JimC
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:59 PM
      Subject: RE: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      
      
      > --> <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      >
      > (9/5C) +32=F
      >
      > (F-32)(5/9)=C
      >
      > That's the way I was shown... A bit bulky for doing without paper or a
      
      > calculator.  Yours is definitely easier.  I tried it on -40C =-40F, 
      > 0C=32F, 20C=68F, 100C=212F all worked correctly.
      >
      > Noel
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Easy - too easy | 
      
      I would think the easiest way to convert in either direction would be to use 
      your flight computer  it works for me 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Easy - too easy | 
      
      
      Should read 2X-(2X/10)+ 32=F.  Math in brackets is
      done first.  Hey, I do remember something from high
      school. :D
      
      Dave
      
      --- jrc <jrccea@bellsouth.net> wrote:
      
      > <jrccea@bellsouth.net>
      > 
      > That's because it's exactly the same equation, just
      > configured differently. 
      > 9/5X is the same as 2X-2X/10.  Both equal 1.8X
      > JimC
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      > To: <engines-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:59 PM
      > Subject: RE: Engines-List: Easy - too easy
      > 
      > 
      > <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
      > >
      > > (9/5C) +32=F
      > >
      > > (F-32)(5/9)=C
      > >
      > > That's the way I was shown... A bit bulky for
      > doing without paper or a
      > > calculator.  Yours is definitely easier.  I tried
      > it on -40C =-40F, 
      > > 0C=32F,
      > > 20C=68F, 100C=212F all worked correctly.
      > >
      > > Noel 
      > 
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