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1. 01:06 AM - Question Retraction_Missing Page Found (Tony Renshaw)
2. 06:42 AM - Re: Trailers (Kevin Klinefelter)
3. 08:22 AM - Re: Question Retraction_Missing Page Found (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
4. 08:56 AM - Re:The Dreaded Petrol(Gas) smell. (erichdtrombley@juno.com)
5. 08:59 AM - Re: Trailers (Dale Hetrick)
6. 09:20 AM - Factory trailer for sale (UK) (Miles McCallum)
7. 09:26 AM - trailers (Paul Boulet)
8. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 02/14/03 (Terry Seaver)
9. 09:29 AM - GPS Aerial (Richard)
10. 10:03 AM - Re: GPS Aerial (Terry Seaver)
11. 10:06 AM - Re: GPS Aerial (R.C.Harrison)
12. 10:09 AM - Re: Trailers (tom)
13. 10:57 AM - Re: GPS Aerial (Ian Mansfeld)
14. 11:17 AM - Re: Fuel sight gauges + How to see any Europa factory mod (Nigel Charles)
15. 11:32 AM - Re: Trailers (Dean Wiegand)
16. 12:57 PM - Jacking block (Terry Seaver)
17. 01:29 PM - Re: Trailers (Roger Anderson)
18. 01:53 PM - Re: Trailers (Bruce Ludeman)
19. 02:51 PM - Re: Factory trailer for sale (UK) (david joyce)
20. 03:46 PM - Re: Factory trailer for sale (UK) (Dean Wiegand)
21. 05:08 PM - 3D image (clevelee@cswebmail.com)
22. 05:20 PM - Avalec on the Net??? (Tony Renshaw)
23. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 02/14/03 (DJA727@aol.com)
24. 06:29 PM - Re: The Dreaded Petrol(Gas) smell. (Jim Brown)
25. 06:42 PM - Re: The Dreaded Petrol(Gas) smell. (DJA727@aol.com)
26. 10:08 PM - Re: Trailers (R.K. Hallett III)
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| Subject: | Question Retraction_Missing Page Found |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
Gidday,
Just in case someone was going to point out the "bleeding obvious", I have
found the missing page from my manual regarding the setting up of the aileron
on the wing to give the dimension for the aileron link rod to spar pushrod.
Thanks anyway.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
-> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
Hi,
I am currently perplexed with the setting up of the wing bellcrank neutral
position to match the spar one to ascertain the length of the spanwise
pushrod and then ascertain the length of the aileron chordwise link rod.
The wing embedded bellcrank has a long arm for the long tube, and a short
one for the short tube. I can't easily find the neutral position of this
bellcrank. I can easily find the stop though, as the short arm which is
above and inboard of the pivot point or attachment of the bearing pushes
the outboard edge of the long arm against the bolt stop. Is there an easy
way to find neutral, bearing in mind I don't have a lot of room to get
access, only that available through the normal access hole?
Reg
Tony Renshaw
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Dean, I am talking Mono-wheel and am thinking of copying the Europa design.
Those who have used one for a while may have some suggestions for design
improvements. I would be happy with the simple, open trailer. I would like
to borrow one for a week or so and get a design on paper. I have a friend
who is a welder/fabricator.
I am surprised that Europa FL doesn't make them. Seems like it would be
more cost effective than building them in GB and shipping. There should be a
few to be sold over here.
Kevin
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dean Wiegand
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trailers
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Wiegand" <dwiegand@surewest.net>
Are the trailer being discussed for mono- or tri-gear?
If for mono, I would certainly participate in the "bulk
order" (and associated price discounts that it brings).
If we do have several interested parties, we could
discuss features of the trailers and find a builder.
If not, I may design my own and engineer in
multi-purpose elements. Ralph Petersen, one of the
West Coast sales reps is building his own, I will check
with him about details but I think he is going with an
enclosed set-up.
Dean Wiegand
Sacramento CA USA
dwiegand@surewest.net
kit A259
www.dwiegand.dnsalias.com/europa/
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
Behalf Of Kevin
Klinefelter
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trailers
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter"
<kevann@gte.net>
Or several could be made here, probably for a lot less
than $3500 each. I am
in need also, Tom
Kevin Klinefelter
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
Behalf Of tom
Subject: Europa-List: Trailers
--> Europa-List message posted by: "tom"
<beecho@fix.net>
Does anyone have plans for either a monowheel trailer
or a triwheel trailer
that they are willing to share? It seems silly to ship
a trailer part way
around the world to the Western Colonies when one can
be custom made here.
Thank you
Tom Friedland
beecho@fix.net
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| Subject: | Re: Question Retraction_Missing Page Found |
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
In a message dated 2/19/2003 4:07:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au writes:
> Gidday,
> Just in case someone was going to point out the "bleeding obvious", I have
> found the missing page from my manual regarding the setting up of the
> aileron
> on the wing to give the dimension for the aileron link rod to spar pushrod.
> Thanks anyway.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
>
> Tony,
>
> I noticed that too. The first couple of pages in that section are out of
> sequence. I scratched my head for a while on that one!
>
> Regards,
>
> John Lawton
> Dunlap, TN
> A-245
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| Subject: | Re: The Dreaded Petrol(Gas) smell. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: erichdtrombley@juno.com
"Has anyone had any problems with the intermittent smell of petrol in the
cockpit. I think that this may be a MONOWHEEL and ROTAX 914 specific problem."
I do get an intermittent smell of exuast when lowering flaps and gear but never
fuel.
On another note, I have noticed that the airbox drain/vent line is accumilating
oil on my 914. Not a lot mind you but enough that it got me thinking. In 30
hours of flying I have probably less than 1/4 oz. My question is has anyone
else seen this? Is it normal? Two things I can think of is that the oil is seeping
past the oil seal in the turbo and making its way into the air intake.
Or perhaps it is the oil used to initially charge the air filter.
Regards,
Erich Trombley
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Dale Hetrick <gdale2@juno.com>
Kevin,
I've gotten several quotes on a "one off" basis for an open trailer that
could be used for either the trigear or monowheel.
I have several other builders who are also interested so please contact
me off forum if you want to participate.
Dale
(#140 trigear/Jabiru)
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| Subject: | Factory trailer for sale (UK) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Miles McCallum" <milesm@avnet.co.uk>
For UK Europa builders and owners.........
Seeing as I'm commited to building a taildragger, and it's not a practical
proposition to convert a monowheel trailer, it's up for sale. Very few
miles, but the steel parts need refinishing... contact me off list if you're
interested.
Miles
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possible2do@yahoo.com>
Hi all;
I too am in need of a mono wheel trailer. If anyone does have plans or a reasonbly
priced source willing to build a bunch of these count me in. I'm close to
being completed and expect first flight within 60 days.
Paul Boulet, A212, Malibu, California
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 02/14/03 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
Hi Dave,
When you get a moment, could you let us know what the final length was on the
inserts. We are planning on implementing the softer mounts soon.
Thanks,
Terry Seaver
A135 / N135TD
DJA727@aol.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 2/15/2003 11:17:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> graham@gflight.f9.co.uk writes:
>
> > There is a difference between the Rotax company mounts and the Europa
> > company mounts, both dimensionally and hardness. The Europa ones are
> > certainly too stiff, isn't there a factory mod to rectify this, longer
> > distance tubes to reduce the compression?
> > When we first installed our Classic engine the rubbers were so stiff the
> > washers compressing them went conical. Lengthening the tubes made quite a
> > difference.
> >
>
> I made a semi breakthrough today. The engine motion seemed too much -- more
> than any airplane I have ever seen. I concluded it was too much and tried an
> idea. The Europa mounts insert is slightly shorter than the rubber to allow
> compression. I had made mine the same length -- per what Dennis did. I also
> notice the mounts are slightly shorter than the Europa mounts. I tried a
> comparable shortening of the insert and the results are good -- the engine
> now moves more than the standard mounts, but not too much. It is more like I
> expect it to be. Darkness and weather prevented running. I think this is the
> last iteration in this engine mount fiasco.
> Dave A227
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard" <riddon@btinternet.com>
I know that this has been discussed before but I can't seem to find the
answer in the archive.
I am wondering where to mount the aerial for my Skymap GPS.
I was told that it was OK to mount it underneath the top of the instrument
binnacle but the manual says that it's view of the sky should be as free of
obstructions as possible. I guess it could go on top of the pod so that the
signal only has the screen to negotiate.
Suggestions please?
Thanks.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS (painting my 'bits' tonight!!)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
Hi Richard,
we originally had our Skymap antenna inside the panel, at the very top, above
the retraction lever cutout. Early in flight testing I had trouble with the GPS
losing lock. We tried moving the antenna around and found it did not like being
above the radios and instruments in the panel. Even when it was placed on top
of the instrument panel it had problems. We eventually moved it up in the
overhead area, where it has worked fine since. It does not mind being
underneath fiberglass of plexiglass. It was the radios and/or instruments below
it that caused the problem.
regards,
Terry Seaver
A135 / N135TD
Richard wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard" <riddon@btinternet.com>
>
> I know that this has been discussed before but I can't seem to find the
> answer in the archive.
>
> I am wondering where to mount the aerial for my Skymap GPS.
>
> I was told that it was OK to mount it underneath the top of the instrument
> binnacle but the manual says that it's view of the sky should be as free of
> obstructions as possible. I guess it could go on top of the pod so that the
> signal only has the screen to negotiate.
>
> Suggestions please?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard Iddon G-RIXS (painting my 'bits' tonight!!)
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Richard
This has often been on the old forum. Mine is on the roof just in front of
the baggage bay bulkhead. It has worked flawlessly. I'm told that the Skymap
supplied antennae even works on the top of the panel.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard
Subject: Europa-List: GPS Aerial
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "tom" <beecho@fix.net>
Hi Kevin, Dean, Bob, Ferg and Rob
Thanks for your replies. I need a mono trailer and I have never seen one
nor know of one to copy. A number of them have been custom built so there
must be plans and specs somewhere. Yes, I think that if a number could be
ordered, a significant savings in $$ can probably be made.
Ferg, thanks for your offer. I am still hoping to get specific plans. If
not, I will contact you. Dean, do you know if Ralph has plans or can you
copy his? I suspect that there are many others in need. Aren't there 15+
Europe's being built in California alone? (I am in Atascadero)
Bob and Rob: I need a mono trailer but Dale Hetrick needs a tri and I am
sure that he will be most interested.
Tom@MonoXSJabiruAerocarbAirmasterN96V.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trailers
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
>
> Or several could be made here, probably for a lot less than $3500 each. I
am
> in need also, Tom
> Kevin Klinefelter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of tom
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Trailers
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "tom" <beecho@fix.net>
>
> Does anyone have plans for either a monowheel trailer or a triwheel
trailer
> that they are willing to share? It seems silly to ship a trailer part way
> around the world to the Western Colonies when one can be custom made here.
>
> Thank you
> Tom Friedland
> beecho@fix.net
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ian Mansfeld" <ian_mansfeld@lineone.net>
Richard,
The 'binnacle' is plastic and so transparent to GPS frequencies, so no
problem there. However, you may want to try it first before a permanent fit,
as these aerials can easily pick up noise from other avionics. It is
generally a good idea to keep GPS aerials at least 6 inches away from other
transmitting stuff.
Ian.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <riddon@btinternet.com>
Subject: Europa-List: GPS Aerial
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard" <riddon@btinternet.com>
>
> I know that this has been discussed before but I can't seem to find the
> answer in the archive.
>
> I am wondering where to mount the aerial for my Skymap GPS.
>
> I was told that it was OK to mount it underneath the top of the instrument
> binnacle but the manual says that it's view of the sky should be as free
of
> obstructions as possible. I guess it could go on top of the pod so that
the
> signal only has the screen to negotiate.
>
> Suggestions please?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard Iddon G-RIXS (painting my 'bits' tonight!!)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel sight gauges + How to see any Europa factory mod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi Ferg
I ordered 5 feet first time around and although that was enough for 15
aircraft it was soon used up.
To make things easier for customers I have decided to buy the following to
make up the kit:
4" steel tube
2 AN4 sized stiff nuts (I forget the MS number)
4 AN4 sized thin washers
2 grease nipples.
All but the grease nipples are obtained from Wicks (or A/C Spruce). My local
car accessory shop supply the grease nipples. Just choose a size with a
common thread so a tap can easily be obtained.
Reference membership. I feel it is pretty poor if builders of $50,000
aircraft feel they cannot afford the membership of the club. The fact that
quite a lot of the articles are European orientated says more about the lack
of non European input. Anyway the club supports the owners in many ways
apart from the magazine and these mods are a typical example. The committee
feels that it is reasonable to limit these mods to members only so we would
appreciate it if you did the same.
Regards
Nigel
PS. Are you coming over to the UK this summer? It would be nice to meet up
again.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel sight gauges + How to see any Europa factory
mod
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
>
> Nigel,
> I ordered the SS before acquiring the Club mod because there
was
> difficulty here in getting on the memebers only section. When I found a
> minimum order pertained, I decided to make a bulk order and so have 4 feet
> of same and sent out the message.
> I presume you provide only the SS tubing (as I) but if you
> produce more, please let me know and will duplicate your method for ease
of
> understanding. What I don't know is whether the colonists will want to pay
> for a 'foreign' membership! They are pretty paranoid right now, what with
> border people inspecting lipsticks etc. What was a whimsical faux pas is
now
> a fullblown xenaphobia....
> Best regards to you both,
> Ferg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nigel Charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel sight gauges + How to see any Europa
factory
> mod
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles"
> <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
> >
> > The outrigger mod is a Europa Club mod. Having fitted it to my
Europa
> as
> > an individual mod (UK PFA approved) the PFA suggested that it was made
> more
> > readily available. I have twice mentioned it to the factory because it
> needs
> > the minimum of extra parts and they could stock it as a factory mod.
They
> > don't seem to be interested which is why it has become a club mod.
Anyone
> > wishing to make use of this mod has only to join the club and the
details
> > are then free. The club is there to support Europa owners so it is
hardly
> a
> > big expense to sign up when we spend thousands of 's/$'s on the aircraft
> in
> > the first place. In the near future, as the stainless tube required for
> part
> > of the mod is a little difficult to obtain, I am purchasing stock to
make
> up
> > kits of parts for those east of the Atlantic and I believe Fergus Kyle
is
> > helping out those of you on the west side. I will be placing an order
for
> > parts at the end of the month so anyone in Europe wishing to make use of
> > this service should contact me by then to confirm their order.
> >
> > Nigel Charles
> > Europa Club Mods Rep
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tom" <beecho@fix.net>
> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > > About moods: What about the outrigger mod?
> > >
> > > Tom
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Wiegand" <dwiegand@surewest.net>
I don't think Ralph is working form plans, but is
making the plans as he goes. I will talk to him and
find out for sure.
Kingsley has sent a picture of his enclosed trailer
which is what I would really like to do but I only have
garage space available on my small in-town
property...the CC&Rs prevent me from keeping a trailer
on the street in front of the house.
Terry Seaver has suggested that I might be able to
borrow an open, mono-wheel trailer from him and Dave.
That gives the opportunity of taking a few hours for
measurements and pictures to share. I could just as
easily do it at their hanger which is only a 2 hour
drive away since I would have to go there to retrieve
it...providing Terry and Dave have the time.
If Rob Neils is willing to share the plans for his
flat-bed tri-gear trailer, and Kingsley for the
enclosed version...that covers everyone.
I would like to make sure there is a way of taking all
of the protrusions off the top and mounting a sheet of
plywood to use the trailer for other light hauling
duties. Possibly even adding mounting bosses for a
second axle since the main axle is set quite far back
to compensate for the weight of the engine at the far
back end of the trailer.
Dean Wiegand
Sacramento CA USA
dwiegand@surewest.net
kit A259
www.dwiegand.dnsalias.com/europa/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
Behalf Of tom
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailers
--> Europa-List message posted by: "tom"
<beecho@fix.net>
Hi Kevin, Dean, Bob, Ferg and Rob
Thanks for your replies. I need a mono trailer and I
have never seen one
nor know of one to copy. A number of them have been
custom built so there
must be plans and specs somewhere. Yes, I think that
if a number could be
ordered, a significant savings in $$ can probably be
made.
Ferg, thanks for your offer. I am still hoping to get
specific plans. If
not, I will contact you. Dean, do you know if Ralph
has plans or can you
copy his? I suspect that there are many others in
need. Aren't there 15+
Europe's being built in California alone? (I am in
Atascadero)
Bob and Rob: I need a mono trailer but Dale Hetrick
needs a tri and I am
sure that he will be most interested.
Tom@MonoXSJabiruAerocarbAirmasterN96V.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trailers
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin
Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
>
> Or several could be made here, probably for a lot
less than $3500 each. I
am
> in need also, Tom
> Kevin Klinefelter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
Behalf Of tom
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Trailers
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "tom"
<beecho@fix.net>
>
> Does anyone have plans for either a monowheel trailer
or a triwheel
trailer
> that they are willing to share? It seems silly to
ship a trailer part way
> around the world to the Western Colonies when one can
be custom made here.
>
> Thank you
> Tom Friedland
> beecho@fix.net
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
A few weeks ago there was a thread on the email group on the subject of
mono-wheel jacking blocks, etc. I mentioned something about ours, and
got a return email asking if I had photos. I didn't at the time, but
have since created a web-site which includes some mods and building tips
David DeFord and I have come up with. The web site is currently at;
http://terryseaver.home.attbi.com/europa_page.html
My provider (attbi) has merged with another, so the site name is going
to be changing in the near future. I'll post the new name in an email
once the dust settles.
The mods section also includes a description and pictures of our cooling
baffle between the footwells that I described several months ago, and
had a request for pictures as well.
regards,
Terry Seaver
A135 / N135TD
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Anderson" <Randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
>
> Dean, I am talking Mono-wheel and am thinking of copying the Europa
design.
> Those who have used one for a while may have some suggestions for design
> improvements.
If you alter the spar socket such that it can rotate and pivot it makes
single handed rigging a doddle with the aid of a trolley to support the
outboard end of the wing. I modified an old golf trolley for the job and I
rig single handed for every trip. It takes less than half an hour from
arriving at the airfield to being ready for flight - no sweat. Similar time
to de-rig.
A boat trailer winch helps with getting the aircraft back on the trailer
single-handed.
The down load on the trailer hitch is way beyond that recommended for
trailing and I think the axle should be further forward.
In order to hitch the loaded trailer on to my car I have mounted a pulley on
the side of the frame by the hitch. I can get a two to one purchase to lift
the front end of the trailer, using a rope looped under the pulley with a
toggle on one end and the other end attached to a pole about one metre long.
The wheel ramp doesn't always release easily, and rather than reduce the
thickness of the tufnoll on the inside of the ramp I have fitted a bracket
on the side of the ramp which I can thump with a soft mallet to make the
ramp drop.
I secure the fuselage to the trailer with straps which locate with pins in
the rear wing mount points. The wings are secured with straps through the
outrigger mechanism and the outriggers are tied together over the top of the
fuselage.
The supplied rubber wing support slings mark the paintwork and crack with
age. I have replaced these with polypropylene straps of a similar width,
covered leatherette cuffs (soft side out). These are better than the rubber
straps but I would welcome suggestions for a better solution.
Roger. G-BXTD.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bruce Ludeman" <bruce@justbruce.com>
Greetings,
I had to do some research on the word "doodle" as used in
Roger's email. (grin)
The word `doddle' is listed in the Longman Dictionary of
contemporary English as informal British English. It is
defined as:
"Something that is very easy to do: That driving test was a
real doddle"
Regards,
Bruce
Do not archive
Note: the "do not archive" command can be used anywhere in
any message and allows the writer to keep off-topic comments
or requests from being put into the archives. That keeps
the archive on-topic and makes the searches run faster. I
recommend that we all use that command when appropriate.
Start Snip.......
>If you alter the spar socket such that it can rotate and
>pivot it makes
>single handed rigging a doddle with the aid of a trolley to
>support the
>outboard end of the wing.
End snip........
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| Subject: | Re: Factory trailer for sale (UK) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "david joyce" <davidjoyce@beeb.net>
Having now bought a covered trailer I too have a mono trailer for sale for
next to nothing, but in UK! Perhaps Miles & I should see if we can find a
cheap container to ship them over the pond. David Joyce
----- Original Message -----
From: Miles McCallum <milesm@avnet.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Factory trailer for sale (UK)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Miles McCallum" <milesm@avnet.co.uk>
>
> For UK Europa builders and owners.........
> Seeing as I'm commited to building a taildragger, and it's not a practical
> proposition to convert a monowheel trailer, it's up for sale. Very few
> miles, but the steel parts need refinishing... contact me off list if
you're
> interested.
>
> Miles
>
>
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| Subject: | Factory trailer for sale (UK) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Wiegand" <dwiegand@surewest.net>
you might want to contact the factory, maybe you could
piggy-back on an already scheduled container. It was
some years ago when I used containers from Houston TX
to UK so I am not sure what prices would be now.
Dean Wiegand
Sacramento CA USA
dwiegand@surewest.net
kit A259
www.dwiegand.dnsalias.com/europa/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
Behalf Of david joyce
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Factory trailer for sale (UK)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "david joyce"
<davidjoyce@beeb.net>
Having now bought a covered trailer I too have a mono
trailer for sale for
next to nothing, but in UK! Perhaps Miles & I should
see if we can find a
cheap container to ship them over the pond. David Joyce
----- Original Message -----
From: Miles McCallum <milesm@avnet.co.uk>
<europa-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Factory trailer for sale (UK)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Miles McCallum"
<milesm@avnet.co.uk>
>
> For UK Europa builders and owners.........
> Seeing as I'm commited to building a taildragger, and
it's not a practical
> proposition to convert a monowheel trailer, it's up
for sale. Very few
> miles, but the steel parts need refinishing...
contact me off list if
you're
> interested.
>
> Miles
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: clevelee@cswebmail.com
Richard,
<My son, who has done quite a bit of 3d modelling, is working on the graphics
<for my tri gear and wondered if anyone has created a computer 3d model of a
<Europa which he could download? ( for a flight sim programme perhaps?).
I have recently launched a company specializing in scale RC models of
Experimental Aircraft. By a strange coincidence the name of the company is
"Experimental Aircraft Models"!
With the mission of 'Enhancing the homebuilt experience' we are also offering an
RC simulator that includes sims of the ARF models we are offering.
Of course, the Europa is one of them. We are currently programming the Europa
and it should be done in a few weeks. We are using an excellent set of drawings
for both the 1/5th scale model and the sim that was kindly provided by Andy at
the factory. We're hoping to have the sim and the prototype model at our booth
at Sun N' Fun. We've completed the RV-6 and I can send you an image of that if
you'd like to see what the graphic would look like. (The models are all in white
so builders can apply their own aircraft color schemes) I can rotate the graphic
and get any angle you'd need (e.g. bottom).
I don't want to tie up bandwidth with might seem like a commercial comment, so
if you'd like to know more, feel free to contact me directly. You can reach me
at experimentalaircraftmodels@earthlink.net also. If there is general interest
expressed by other members of the forum about the model then I'd be happy
provide a little more information about what I'm doing.
Cleve Lee
A198 Mono XS, Jabiru 3300, N396ST
Detroit, MI
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| Subject: | Avalec on the Net??? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
Gidday,
Anyone know where I can find Avalec on the net? I have tried the normal
avenues like search engines to no avail. I am making a final comparison
between the Lyndhurst magnetic float system and the Avalec, if I can
reinvigorate my interest. It is a very last minute request as I am
basically in the process of ordering the Lyndhurst. Any last minute pieces
of advice on this topic would be much appreciated.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 29 Msgs - 02/14/03 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
In a message dated 2/19/2003 9:28:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,
terrys@cisco.com writes:
> Hi Dave,
>
> When you get a moment, could you let us know what the final length was on
> the
> inserts. We are planning on implementing the softer mounts soon.
>
> Thanks,
> Terry Seaver
> A135 / N135TD
>
Believe it or not, I did not measure it. I made them about 1/4 inch shorter
than the uncompressed thickness of the O200 mounts. The paper I used to mark
the inserts is long gone. I basically estimated the amount the old insert was
shorter than the old mounts. I do have a picture I can email to you.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: The Dreaded Petrol(Gas) smell. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Erich,
I have a 914 with almost 500 hr. on it. Since day one, the airbox vent has been
weeping oil. I think it must be the nature of the beast.
While on the subject of the airbox, the temperature probe in the airbox needs to
be pulled out and cleaned with alcohol, or acetone about every 150 to 200 hours.
The oil on it due to heat in the airbox will blacken. Once this happens being
dark it absorbs heat, an as a result it sends a higher temperature back
to the computer. The computer is set to retard timing when the airbox temperature
reaches 165 degrees F. Here in Florida, in the summer, at takeoff
with full boost it is not long before 165 Degrees is reached.
This is one of the reasons that we have installed an intercooler.
Jim Brown
N398JB.
erichdtrombley@juno.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: erichdtrombley@juno.com
>
> "Has anyone had any problems with the intermittent smell of petrol in the
> cockpit. I think that this may be a MONOWHEEL and ROTAX 914 specific problem."
>
> I do get an intermittent smell of exuast when lowering flaps and gear but never
fuel.
>
> On another note, I have noticed that the airbox drain/vent line is accumilating
oil on my 914. Not a lot mind you but enough that it got me thinking. In
30 hours of flying I have probably less than 1/4 oz. My question is has anyone
else seen this? Is it normal? Two things I can think of is that the oil is
seeping past the oil seal in the turbo and making its way into the air intake.
Or perhaps it is the oil used to initially charge the air filter.
>
> Regards,
>
> Erich Trombley
>
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| Subject: | Re: The Dreaded Petrol(Gas) smell. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:30:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
acrojim@cfl.rr.com writes:
> While on the subject of the airbox, the temperature probe in the airbox
> needs to be pulled out and cleaned with alcohol, or acetone about every 150
> to 200 hours. The oil on it due to heat in the airbox will blacken. Once
> this happens being dark it absorbs heat, an as a result it sends a higher
> temperature back to the computer. The computer is set to retard timing when
> the airbox temperature reaches 165 degrees F. Here in Florida, in the
> summer, at takeoff
> with full boost it is not long before 165 Degrees is reached.
>
A question arises in my mind on this. The temp probe is sticking inside the
airbox. If it turns black from soot or something, that would only effect
heating if it were exposed to light. It's dark inside that airbox, so
wouldn't the problem be something else, like insulating the probe perhaps?
Just wondering,
Dave A227
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.K. Hallett III" <reddog@gbis.com>
Kevin,
A long way off, but me too.
Ralph
Kevin Klinefelter wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
>
>Dean, I am talking Mono-wheel and am thinking of copying the Europa design.
>Those who have used one for a while may have some suggestions for design
>improvements. I would be happy with the simple, open trailer. I would like
>to borrow one for a week or so and get a design on paper. I have a friend
>who is a welder/fabricator.
> I am surprised that Europa FL doesn't make them. Seems like it would be
>more cost effective than building them in GB and shipping. There should be a
>few to be sold over here.
>Kevin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dean Wiegand
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trailers
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Wiegand" <dwiegand@surewest.net>
>
>Are the trailer being discussed for mono- or tri-gear?
>
>If for mono, I would certainly participate in the "bulk
>order" (and associated price discounts that it brings).
>
>If we do have several interested parties, we could
>discuss features of the trailers and find a builder.
>
>If not, I may design my own and engineer in
>multi-purpose elements. Ralph Petersen, one of the
>West Coast sales reps is building his own, I will check
>with him about details but I think he is going with an
>enclosed set-up.
>
>Dean Wiegand
>Sacramento CA USA
>dwiegand@surewest.net
>kit A259
>www.dwiegand.dnsalias.com/europa/
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
>Behalf Of Kevin
>Klinefelter
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trailers
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter"
><kevann@gte.net>
>
>Or several could be made here, probably for a lot less
>than $3500 each. I am
>in need also, Tom
>Kevin Klinefelter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
>Behalf Of tom
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Trailers
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "tom"
><beecho@fix.net>
>
>Does anyone have plans for either a monowheel trailer
>or a triwheel trailer
>that they are willing to share? It seems silly to ship
>a trailer part way
>around the world to the Western Colonies when one can
>be custom made here.
>
>Thank you
>Tom Friedland
>beecho@fix.net
>
>
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