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     1. 09:57 AM - Re: intercoolers (Shaun Simpkins)
     2. 01:08 PM - Re: Reply configuration (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
     3. 07:13 PM - Fast Prop (Steve Hagar)
     4. 08:04 PM - Aileron Length (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
     5. 08:15 PM - Re: air brake push rod (R.K. Hallett III)
     6. 09:03 PM - Re: air brake push rod (DJA727@aol.com)
     7. 09:26 PM - Re: Fast Prop (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
     8. 09:32 PM - Re: air brake push rod (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: intercoolers | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Shaun Simpkins" <shauns@hevanet.com>
      
      Karkel:
      
      I look forward to the flight tests!  It sounds like you have the better part
      of a year to wait,
      though.  Whatever, this is progress - a design coming with PFA approval is a
      very good thing.
      
      I have to say that one of the things that attracted me to the Europa in the
      first place
      was the rather rigorous approval process required in the UK by the PFA to
      get a
      homebuilt design flying.  As opposed to the rather "buyer-beware,
      laissiez-faire" attitude
      in the states, it's my impression that a PFA-approved design will at least
      have been
      conservatively designed and reviewed by several pairs of knowledgeable eyes.
      I still haven't seen an American kitplane vendor ( outside of Van's ) that
      openly displays
      recovery from a 12-turn fully developed spin on their promotional videos.
      Maybe that
      was just Ivan's design directive, but I like to think the PFA has something
      to do with it...
      
      Shaun
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <KarkelB@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: intercoolers
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: KarkelB@aol.com
      >
      > Folks,
      >           keep the faith, i obtained design approval from the PFA for an
      > intercooler subject to tests after construction.
      > In addition to satisfying the rotax criteria for an intercooler ie.
      pressure
      > loss> 15hpa and a minimum flow rate of 300 cubic meters/hour, PFA require
      (a)
      > a maximum working pressure and suction the intercooler will carry in the
      > worst cases (b) a safety factor that need to be applied to to perform a
      > pressure test and finally the intercooler should be able to withstand
      twice
      > the maximum possible working pressure load.
      > I have consulted Nigel Beale( rotax agent) and commisioned the guys at
      > Docking to build and test it to the above criteria after which all the
      > documentation and test results will be handed to the PFA to get approval
      for
      > actual flying tests. The guys at Docking specialise in intercooling
      systems
      > notably for FI teams and other racing cars. Besides, the chief engineer
      Mel
      > is a pilot/PFA member so he knows where i'm coming from. Will keep you
      posted
      > on progress...its coming.
      >
      >   Karim.
      >  # 420
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Reply configuration | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland & Wilma Carson <rowil@clara.net>
      
      At 21:10 +0000 on 21-02-03, Roger Anderson wrote:
      
      >It would have been so very much easier to have had the original, logical,
      >system available
      
      AFAIK, all the Matronics lists work the original, logical, way 
      they've always worked, ie reply-to-list is the default. (Beauty is in 
      the eye of the beholder.) If you want to change that state of 
      affairs, you'll have to convince Matt Dralle of the merits of your 
      case. Talk to him direct, not on the list - he's a reasonable man.
      
      regards
      
      Rowland
      
      
      | PFA 16532      EAA 168386      Young Eagles Flight Leader 017623
      | 490 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI   e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
      
      I received an e mail message from the Air master prop dudes in NZ on the 19
      that they shipped my prop. It was sitting on my porch  on the 21st.  I hope
      its that fast when its attached to the airplane!
      
      Steve Hagar
      A143
      Mesa, AZ
      
      
      --- Steve Hagar
      --- hagargs@earthlink.net
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
      
      I've just finished attaching the balance weights to the aileron and was about 
      to attach it to the wing when I noticed that the aileron is too long. I just 
      figured that I should trim the wing tip end but figured I'd ask just to be 
      sure. Since it's too late to do it tonight. I would have the answer by 
      morning.
      Same thing on the flap?
      
      Mike Duane A207
      Redding, California
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: air brake push rod | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.K. Hallett III" <reddog@gbis.com>
      
      Thanks Dave, the got any ideas where I can buy this stuff in town?  The 
      TU2 never did come with the kit!
      BTW, the cockpit is in!  Finished the gluing to day, really looking fwd 
      to moving along much faster now.
      How's the flying?  Had any more time in the air?  
      
      Ralph
      
      DJA727@aol.com wrote:
      
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
      >
      >In a message dated 2/21/2003 10:05:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
      >reddog@gbis.com writes:
      >
      >  
      >
      >>Did you use the same tubing you used for the aileron pushrods in the 
      >>cockpit?  What parts were used?
      >>
      >>    
      >>
      >
      >Same stuff as aileron push rods. It came with the kit - the long wings.
      >
      >Dave
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: air brake push rod | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
      
      In a message dated 2/22/2003 8:16:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
      reddog@gbis.com writes:
      
      > Thanks Dave, the got any ideas where I can buy this stuff in town?  The 
      > TU2 never did come with the kit!
      > BTW, the cockpit is in!  Finished the gluing to day, really looking fwd 
      > to moving along much faster now.
      > How's the flying?  Had any more time in the air?  
      > 
      > 
      
      Call John Hurst - he will make it good. You should have all the parts 
      required in the kit. The only other thing would be to go to Aircraft Spruce.
      
      Good deal on the cockpit. 
      
      I have 6.4 hours now - flying again tomorrow morning. See the attached. It is 
      from last flight at 17,500. Everything is going well still. The 914 engine is 
      fantastic in this airplane. The climb rate will knock your socks off!
      
      Dave
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
      
      Don't forget that your 19th is our 18th so they had an extra day to get
      it to you  :-)
      
      Tony
      
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From:        Steve Hagar
      Cc:=09
      Subject:        Europa-List: Fast Prop
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
      
      I received an e mail message from the Air master prop dudes in NZ on the
      19
      that they shipped my prop. It was sitting on my porch  on the 21st.  I
      hope
      its that fast when its attached to the airplane!
      
      Steve Hagar
      A143
      Mesa, AZ
      
      
      --- Steve Hagar
      --- hagargs@earthlink.net
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | air brake push rod | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
      
      >>>>> got any ideas where I can buy this stuff in town?  The
      TU2 never did come with the kit!
      
      If you are missing a part why not just ask Europa to supply the missing
      bit rather than hunt around for an equivalent? Upon receipt of the kit
      it is normal practise to check the manifest and advise Europa of any
      shortages. They are more than happy to supply any bits that may have
      been inadvertently short shipped - after all, you've already paid for
      the parts.
      
      Tony
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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