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1. 12:55 AM - Re: Weather station (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
2. 04:57 AM - Re: Weather station (Raimo Toivio)
3. 05:55 AM - Re: brake pipe routing - parking brake? (Peter Zutrauen)
4. 06:53 AM - U.S. only....... (Fergus Kyle)
5. 08:13 AM - Re: Dynon vs Grandrapids efis (KarkelB@aol.com)
6. 09:24 AM - Re: Door Gas Strut Mod. (Dale Hetrick)
7. 11:05 AM - Re: brake pipe routing - parking brake? (R.C.Harrison)
8. 11:16 AM - Re: brake pipe routing - parking brake? (Peter Zutrauen)
9. 12:20 PM - Re: Weather station (Kevin Taylor)
10. 02:11 PM - Re: Re: Dynon vs Grandrapids efis (shauns@hevanet.com)
11. 04:27 PM - Re: Re: Dynon vs Grandrapids efis (KarkelB@aol.com)
12. 06:23 PM - Re: brake pipe routing - parking brake? (MJKTuck@cs.com)
13. 06:29 PM - Re: brake pipe routing - parking brake? (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
14. 09:22 PM - Re: Mounting fuel pumps (Kevin Klinefelter)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>>> Is there a weather station you can buy where you can receive the
information in your aircraft? Most of these stations only have a 100m
range. It would be very useful to get accurate wind information at an
unmanned strip before landing without having to rely on just a windsock.
A lot of our unmanned strips now have automatic weather stations
(AWIB's) which transmit the current weather conditions when you click
transmit on their frequency four times. The system can't be too
expensive otherwise the private strip owners wouldn't put them in. I'll
have a ferret around and find out who makes them.
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Weather station |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm-systems.fi>
Hi!
Try www.vaisala.fi
Go through
products&systems,
automatic weather stations,
aviation weather
and
aviation brochure.
They make world leading all kind of
aviation weather stations. Also automatic
and even equipped with synthetic speech.
Most off our unmanned airfields have them.
You can monitor them by certain frequency
when airborne. What a joy to use!
Raimo M W Toivio
OH-XRT #417
OH-CVK
OH-BLL
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm-systems.fi
www.rwm-systems.fi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Weather station
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>
>
> >>> Is there a weather station you can buy where you can receive the
> information in your aircraft? Most of these stations only have a 100m
> range. It would be very useful to get accurate wind information at an
> unmanned strip before landing without having to rely on just a windsock.
>
> A lot of our unmanned strips now have automatic weather stations
> (AWIB's) which transmit the current weather conditions when you click
> transmit on their frequency four times. The system can't be too
> expensive otherwise the private strip owners wouldn't put them in. I'll
> have a ferret around and find out who makes them.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | brake pipe routing - parking brake? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Just wondering - would it not be simpler/lighter to just add a ratchet-type latch
or safetied gate on the brake lever instead of a hydraulic lock? I believe
Marting Tuck may even have used a simple removable wedge in the gate for the
parking brake.
Cheers,
Pete
A239
-----Original Message-----
From: R.C.Harrison [mailto:ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk]
Sent: Sun 3/9/2003 2:41 AM
To: Europa Matronic Circuit
Cc:
Subject: FW: Europa-List: brake pipe routing
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Guys.
I posted this message on trike pipe routing direct to Richard Iddon but
I
guess it may help to put it on the forum......especially since I ommitted
to
advise him of the "brake bleeding" method.(Heads up Richard!)
I put my bleed nipples on the bottom of each slave brake cylinders then
fitted a Europa supplied screw funnel to each master cylinder in turn and
used a "squeezy bottle" attached to the "bleed" nipple and bled the system
from the BOTTOM UP and BACK to the master cylinder. When air bubbles stop
emmitting from the funnel use a syringe (without a needle) which when placed
into the bottom of the funnel will extract just the right ammount of oil
for
the stop to be replaced.
I should warn those of thinking about central tunnel routes to think about
where your hand brake valve will be sited and watch out for tight radius
bends. The Manual has it right for the master cylinder exit directions.
Hi! Richard.
I wouldn't be without my toe brakes.
The pipes route up and to the port side where there is a hand brake valve
near the naca cold air vent. Then they travel under the port side door
sill
to the front of the baggage bay . The Port brake goes out down the main
gear
leg whilst the Starboard one travels across the rear tank bulkhead down
the
starboard side main gear leg. I have installed unions and adapters where
they pass through the fusilage floor. Then if a pipe fails all you have
to
change is the length of the leg.
Bob H G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard
To: Europa Matronics Forum
Subject: Europa-List: brake pipe routing
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| Subject: | U.S. only....... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Cheers,
Unfortunately,
http://store.yahoo.com/azmotorsports/battenjr12vb.html is a source
available only to real people - U.S. citizens. This is not a slur upon the
U.S.A., or even Arizona folk. It IS a slur upon automobile merchants,
though.
Ferg
Europa A064
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon vs Grandrapids efis |
--> Europa-List message posted by: KarkelB@aol.com
...anyone out there weighing up the two? I notice once again barometric
pressure is in inches for the grandrapids, don't know whether they will cater
for 'millibar' folks in europe. Any thoughts about either?
karim.
# 420
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| Subject: | Re: Door Gas Strut Mod. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Dale Hetrick <gdale2@juno.com>
Hi Jim,
I suspect the problem may be that the forum does not accept attachments.
Please resend them to me directly at
(gdale2@juno.com)
Many thanks,
Dale
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| Subject: | brake pipe routing - parking brake? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Peter.
My messages refer to TRIKES where there are two TOE brake cylinders.Ratchets
are the last thing you want there .... too far to reach.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Peter
Zutrauen
Subject: RE: Europa-List: brake pipe routing - parking brake?
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Just wondering - would it not be simpler/lighter to just add a ratchet-type
latch or safetied gate on the brake lever instead of a hydraulic lock? I
believe Marting Tuck may even have used a simple removable wedge in the gate
for the parking brake.
Cheers,
Pete
A239
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| Subject: | brake pipe routing - parking brake? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
oops.. sorry....
LOL The mental picture of unlatching a toe-mounted brake.... gotta love it.
Cheers,
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: R.C.Harrison [mailto:ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk]
Sent: Mon 3/10/2003 2:10 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Cc:
Subject: RE: Europa-List: brake pipe routing - parking brake?
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Peter.
My messages refer to TRIKES where there are two TOE brake cylinders.Ratchets
are the last thing you want there .... too far to reach.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Peter
Zutrauen
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: brake pipe routing - parking brake?
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Just wondering - would it not be simpler/lighter to just add a ratchet-type
latch or safetied gate on the brake lever instead of a hydraulic lock?
I
believe Marting Tuck may even have used a simple removable wedge in the
gate
Cheers,
Pete
A239
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Taylor" <kevin@eastyorkshire.co.uk>
Nigel,
I think your question may have come from the thread about our station at
Eddsfield. Currently we have the full weather data plus web cam on the net
at www.eastyorkshire.co.uk/eddsfield/wxdata/eddsfield.htm
I understand this station is available at 399 and you can add the interface
for speech for an extra 100 odd quid.
You get on frequency and click the TX 3 times. It then reads back wind and
qfe etc as speech.
Regards
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Nigel
Charles
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weather station
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles"
<nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
Is there a weather station you can buy where you can receive the information
in your aircraft? Most of these stations only have a 100m range. It would be
very useful to get accurate wind information at an unmanned strip before
landing without having to rely on just a windsock.
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon vs Grandrapids efis |
--> Europa-List message posted by: shauns@hevanet.com
Just e-mail Greg Toman and tell him he overlooked something.
You might find it on the October release...
Shaun
Do not archive
> --> Europa-List message posted by: KarkelB@aol.com
>
>
> ....anyone out there weighing up the two? I notice once again
barometric
> pressure is in inches for the grandrapids, don't know whether they
will cater
> for 'millibar' folks in europe. Any thoughts about either?
>
> karim.
> # 420
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon vs Grandrapids efis |
--> Europa-List message posted by: KarkelB@aol.com
..it has it.
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| Subject: | Re: brake pipe routing - parking brake? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: MJKTuck@cs.com
<< I believe Martin Tuck may even have used a simple removable wedge in the
gate for the parking brake>>
Hi Folks,
Not me ... I have not really found the need for a parking brake. I hold onto
the brake (right hand) while I do my run up (using my left hand for throttle)
and I carry a couple of chocks around when I travel anywhere for stabilized
parking.
Regards,
Martin Tuck
N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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| Subject: | brake pipe routing - parking brake? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>>> Not me ... I have not really found the need for a parking brake. I
hold onto
the brake (right hand) while I do my run up (using my left hand for
throttle)
But it's a nice to have as it means you don't have to hold the control
column in your teeth. :-)
Tony
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| Subject: | Mounting fuel pumps |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Steve, I fitted up some of the 303 hose today. That does seem like a very
secure connection. Did you happen to ask the Europa folks about the need for
check valves? And did you see the way Rotax says to plumb the fuel pumps and
check valves in their manual?
The 914 arrived today! Very exciting.
Thanks for the tips, Kevin A211
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mounting fuel pumps
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Kevin:
Yes the 303-6 hose clamps up nicely to the pump outlet. I bought a mandral
from Wicks Aircraft it is $10 cheaper than the unit in AC Spruce. This is
not a recommended tool as noted in the AC Spruce catalog it is a required
tool if you are to install the fittings right. The fittings go in so tight
to the hose that it really inspires confidence in the integrity of the
joint.
I was originally told that the 914 pumps had check valves in them. Upon
obtaining them and investigating by pumping gasoline from one backwards
into the other this was found not to be the case. So make sure you account
for this and install some check valves. Just don't buy them from Wicks. I
got a pair and they have been sitting around since 1959! (just about as old
as me). These things were real relics. I now know how things were
packaged befor plastic was real popular. There was no problems with Wicks
taking them back and crediting me. I even gave them the opportunity to
send me some newer ones but they said all of the ones they had were that
old. They must have gotten a good deal from some govt surplus sale.
Using this hose and fittings is indeed not cheap. Its easy to burn a
C-note and just get started with the job.
I was talking to Erich Trombley who just launched his plane recently about
fuel systems and he has come up with a novel way to implement a fuel
totalizer without having to have a flow sensor on the return line. If I
understand it right He put a "T" upstream of both pump inlets and hooked
the return line into the supply line. Then he put a check valve ahead of
this so that the fuel can't be pumped back into the tank. He's got quite a
few hours on the plane now and says the fuel burn indications are right on
the money.
I may try this out after getting a heads up from him after some extended
usage.
Steve
A143
Mesa, AZ
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
>
> Steve, Did you fit the 303 hose on the pumps outlets and hose clamp them?
> Did you get the aeroquip mandrel for the 491 fittings?
> The 303 looks like a very good choice, better be for the price eh?
> I too am trying to get this wrapped up before the top goes on. I just got
> word that my 914 is on its way! John Hurst kindly sent me a retired fuel
> pump to help get this plumbing madness figured out. I'd be glad to pass it
> on if anybody could use a model 914 pump.
> Thanks, Kevin Klinefelter A211
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar
> To: Europa-List@Matronics. Com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mounting fuel pumps
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
>
>
> Kevin:
>
> I just finished my fuel system prior to putting the top on. To mount the
> fuel pump I took a piece of .090 aluminum sheet about 2"X4". Put a
nutplate
> in it for the hose clamp that comes with the pumps. I spaced it off of the
> bottom of the fuselage floor with a couple of small pieces of foam to give
> the screw clearance and filled and bonded the remaining space with some
> redux and flox. I mounted one pump like that the other pumps clamp was
> bolted through one of the plywood bulkheads for the baggage bay. That way
> the pumps are spaced apart far enough apart to put a t between them and
not
> have a tight bend radius bewteen the hoses. Both pumps are still visible
> when I remove the left baggage access panel.
>
> I stayed away from using barbs on the pressurized side of the fuel system
> (other than the barb on the pump's outlets) I used Aeroquip 303 hose and
> the 491 flared hose fittings. You need a hacksaw to cut this stuff,
whereas
> you can clip the Europa supplied stainless braided hose with a set of
dykes!
>
> Steve Hagar
> A143
> Mesa, AZ
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gte.net>
> > To: Europa-List@Matronics. Com <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 3/1/03 12:30:24 PM
> > Subject: Europa-List: Mounting fuel pumps
> >
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
> >
> > Hi all, does anyone have good way of mounting the 914 fuel pumps to the
> > floor behind the baggage bay?
> > Also, I have the Andair mini gascolator and fitted a 1/2" hose barb to
> the
> > outlet. The next connector will be a tee of 1/2" barbs to split off to
> the 2
> > fuel pumps. This eliminates the need for the 2 J1006 reducers. I found a
> > nylon tee fitting that will work, but I'd rather get a metal one like
the
> > WTP002 provided in the kit. Anyone know where to get a 1/2" hose barb
Tee
> > fitting that is not plastic? I'm trying to reduce the number of
> connections
> > as much as possible.
> >
> >
>
>
> --- Steve Hagar
> --- hagargs@earthlink.net
>
>
--- Steve Hagar
--- hagargs@earthlink.net
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