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1. 12:20 AM - Re: Epoxy pump (Jeremy Davey)
2. 12:29 AM - Re: 5 Point Harnesses (Andy Draper)
3. 01:02 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Cleaning before Soldering Iron (Neville Eyre)
4. 08:36 AM - Re: Cooling Air Baffle (KarkelB@aol.com)
5. 11:35 AM - Re: Cooling Air Baffle (DJA727@aol.com)
6. 01:29 PM - Re: Cooling Air Baffle (ScramIt@aol.com)
7. 02:03 PM - Re: 5 Point Harnesses (James H Nelson)
8. 02:03 PM - Re: 5 Point Harnesses (James H Nelson)
9. 08:29 PM - Re: Cooling Air Baffle (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
10. 08:42 PM - Sun-n-Fun (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Phil,
I don't (as you know from our conversation on Wednesday). I just wanted to
apologise for not saying goodbye - I was so focussed on getting away once
I'd got the fuselage loaded, I completely forgot my manners.
Thanks also for your help loading. The cockpit module is safely stashed in
the dining room, the fuse in my neighbours garage, and the bits in
compartment trays (and it took 4.5 hours to inventory all the bit and pack
them away...).
Back to building - starboard flap fitting today :-) Might even get that
stall warner done, too.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Nevada Cottage
10 Heyford Road
Steeple Aston
Oxfordshire
OX25 4SU
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil Tait
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Phil Tait" <phil@archwise.co.uk>
Hi
Does any one have an epoxy pump for sale that works
Regards
Phil Tait
Builder 551 UK
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| Subject: | Re: 5 Point Harnesses |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
Hi Tony,
It could be done, but not quickly. I'd need to dig out the specc and get the calc's
done. It's too crucial to not do properly. My gut feeling is that 2 plies
would be insufficient but I expect that a 3mm 6082 T6 or better plate would
do. Size to be calculated.
Regards
Andy
>>> Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au> 03/13/03 10:35pm >>>
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
Andy,
Thanks for your input. Could you specify quickly a thickness and size please,
and whether 2 plies of BID would be enough to retain it?
reg
Tony Renshaw
At 04:52 PM 3/13/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
>
>Dear Tony,
>
>Don't forget that you'll need to add a metal insert to the front face of the
>thigh support.
>
>Regards
>Andy
>
>>>> Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au> 03/13/03 11:43am >>>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
>
>Gidday,
>I am working on my cockpit module and am wondering about a 5 point harness.
>I know some may think this overkill, but I fly an a/c now that only has a 4
>point, and there is a natural tendency as your shoulder harness tightens
>under load for your lapstrap to ride up above your hips. To achieve a safe
>outcome your lapstrap would have to be uncomfortably tight always. So, the
>problem arises in an impact where your abdomen is exposed to forces
>supposed to be contained by your lapstrap, but they aren't. So, I want to
>know if anyone has fitted a crutch strap and if so where it was mounted,
>either on the vertical face of the thigh support, or was it accomodated in
>the first 4-6" of the front portion of the thigh support on the seat long
>axis, or where? Any quick advice would be kindly appreciated.
>Reg
>Tony Renshaw
>Sydney Australia
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Cleaning before Soldering Iron |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" <Neville@europa-aircraft.com>
Hi All,
After ALL the fuel has been drained, purge the fumes out with Carbon Dioxide, either
from a MIG welding plant, or from a brewery bottle. A bottle can be hired
from most drink supply depots for not a lot of money.
Leave the gas running until all smell of fuel has gone, and let a little trickle
all the while you are working on the tank.
Ensure the tip of the iron is clean.
Nev.
>>> Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au> 03/11/03 11:52am >>>
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
Gidday,
I am wondering after reading Paul McAllisters website about the
recommendations for preping the fuel tank before I attack it with my
soldering iron to install the Europa fuel probe (magnetic). The question is
that I was only going to drain it of fuel and wash it out with water, but I
now fear that I need to do more than that. Does the plastic absorb some of
the fuel that would make things dangerous for me if I keep to my original
plan?
Reg
Tony Renshaw
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling Air Baffle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: KarkelB@aol.com
Hi Dave,
i have the cooling air baffle and its going onto my 914. Europa
do sell a mold that allows you to insatll the baffle. I bought mine from my
local rotax agaent. He performed tests on its effectiveness and there was a
10 degree reduction in CHT temps.
Indeed it is expensive, but you can also buy it from anyone who has a 912s
but doesn't use it. I will ask my agent if he has one lying around his garage
and bring it over to sun&fun if you want. I got mine from him for $120.00
removed from a 912s. You will need your rotax agent to install it as it
involves movement of the engine frame. Are you coming to sun&fun?
regards Karim.
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling Air Baffle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
In a message dated 3/14/2003 8:37:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,
KarkelB@aol.com writes:
> i have the cooling air baffle and its going onto my 914. Europa
> do sell a mold that allows you to insatll the baffle. I bought mine from my
>
> local rotax agaent. He performed tests on its effectiveness and there was a
>
> 10 degree reduction in CHT temps.
That is what I thought might be the case.
> Indeed it is expensive, but you can also buy it from anyone who has a 912s
> but doesn't use it. I will ask my agent if he has one lying around his
> garage
> and bring it over to sun&fun if you want. I got mine from him for $120.00
> removed from a 912s. You will need your rotax agent to install it as it
> involves movement of the engine frame. Are you coming to sun&fun?
>
I am planning to go to S&F and being there for the weekend of the 5th. I
would be very interested in getting one of these baffles, so if it is
possible, I would be able to buy one there. I would like to see how it is
mounted. I would hope to be able to avoid involving anyone else in the
installation. Where I live, it is not easy to get people out here.
Are you going to create a separate opening for the air inlet into this
cooling baffle? I would think you could do away with the two holes in the
front in that case. I know the diamond extreme has only one opening in the
front and it is for the scat tube that goes to this baffle. The routing of
the scat tube is a little challenging, because of the exhaust and the oil
pressure sender.
Maybe I'll see you at S&F?
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling Air Baffle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
The snout comes with the 912 cowl kit from Europa, but not the baffle. There
should be a few of the snouts laying around with people that aren't going to
use them. I have one but I still on the fence whether to install mine or not.
Snout photo:
http://homepage.mac.com/sdunsmuir/EuropaSite/Sun-N-Fun/DSCN0959-tb.html
SteveD.
http://homepage.mac.com/sdunsmuir/Europa.html
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| Subject: | Re: 5 Point Harnesses |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Hi again,
If you talk to Hooker Harness they will have my dimensions. The
only caveat is I had a long hookup for the shoulder harness. I purchased
inertial reels with my units. If you attach the inertial reels to the
roof of the airframe about a foot behind the rollover structure (behind
the doors). you tell them how far it is to the mounting point for the
reels. I firmly believe in inertial reels as you can be belted in snugly
and still lean forward for anything needed and still have full protection
in the forward direction. You SHOULD be snugly attached to the airframe
during take off and landing. But this can keep you from reaching
something you might need during that time. What about frequency changes,
transponder freq. changes ect. while you are climbing out?? With the
inertial reels you just do it and not worry. The inertial reels mount
with a 5/8" bolt. I made up a bracket that allowed for that and provided
legs from that point out away from the mounting point about 4". (a 8"
spread) This spread out the stresses that will occur during a sudden
stop. I covered the frame work with 6 layers of bid. This extended for
about 2" outside of the aluminum frame. Used flox under the frame to
have a good contact with the top of the airframe. I used aluminum
framing for my bracket. It gives me confidence for my safety.
The hooker harness dimensions I sent them is set up for
the standard mounting points on the europa for the lap belts. The
shoulder harness is as you wish. I'll try to remember to take pix of
them for you tomorrow. (one side is shorter than the other in the
mounting positions)
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: 5 Point Harnesses |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Hi Tony,
Grease?? we use no stinking greese.!!!! I use a synthetic
based grease which is waterproof. I sell a castrol brand of lubricants
so I just went for the best. I sell it for $4.50 a tube. Not expensive
but the best. Anything less is not waterproof. Needs to be a synthetic
base lubricant.
Jim
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| Subject: | Cooling Air Baffle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Dave,
If you get hold of a Europa 912S engine installation manual you'll find
the instructions for making the extra hole in the cowling to accommodate
the Rotax cylinder head cuff.
If you want to fit the cuff then it's an engine out job as you have to
remove the ring mount to get the cuff on.
Tony
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Just in case anyone wants to say hi, I'll be on the Airmaster stand on
the morning of Saturday 5th and on the Europa stand on the morning of
Sunday 6th. Other times over the weekend just look for the kiwi with a
"it's the weekend, this must be Florida" glaze over his eyes.
Bob & John. I would have loved to have been at the BBQ's but it's just a
bit busy down under. I am assured that the Airmaster team will have some
shirts to go into the draw at the Europa BBQ.
Tony
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