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1. 01:14 AM - Re: 914 hot starting (Michael Parkin)
2. 01:19 AM - Re: CS props (Michael Parkin)
3. 04:58 AM - Re: Re: Harnesses again (Alexander P. de C. Kaarsberg)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: 914 hot starting (DJA727@aol.com)
5. 08:47 AM - Re: 914 hot starting (Fergus Kyle)
6. 09:30 AM - Weather station (Kevin Taylor)
7. 12:20 PM - Thanks to all (Trems)
8. 04:23 PM - Re: Weather station (Cy Galley)
9. 06:32 PM - Re: Thanks to all (Alan Stills)
10. 06:58 PM - 7-Day Matronics List Browse Enhancement... (Matt Dralle)
11. 07:01 PM - Re: CS props (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
12. 07:08 PM - Re: Thanks to all (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
13. 07:28 PM - Re: Thanks to all (Trems)
14. 07:30 PM - Monowheel Ground Handling (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
15. 07:57 PM - Re: Thanks to all (Trems)
16. 08:53 PM - Re: CS props (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
17. 10:02 PM - Re: CS props (Nigel Charles)
18. 10:44 PM - Re: CS props (Bill & Sue Sisley)
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| Subject: | Re: 914 hot starting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Parkin" <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
Erich,
Both of my fuel pumps are switchable.
* Fuel pumps - 'OFF'.
* Choke 'Fully In'. ( that is no choke)
* Throttle set just very slightly open. (approx 2500-3000 rpm)
I think that the starting problem when the 914 is warm/hot is one of
over-fuelling. I have also found that with a warm engine, after starting
using the above technique, putting the fuel pump on immediately can make the
engine die. It seems to need time to settle down before giving it full fuel
pressure.
Of course, it could be that this method of starting is specific to my
engine - for some reason.
regards,
Mike (G-JULZ)
----- Original Message -----
From: <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 hot starting
> --> Europa-List message posted by: erichdtrombley@juno.com
>
> Mike, what is the throttle position and is starting with or without the
> use of the choke?
>
> Erich Trombley
> A028
>
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:32:00 -0000 "Michael Parkin"
> <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com> writes:
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Parkin"
> > <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
> >
> > I had the same problem, until I tried starting with the fuel pumps
> > off.
> >
> > Problem solved.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <DJA727@aol.com>
> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Europa-List: 914 hot starting
> >
> >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Does anyone out there have any tips on starting the 914 engine
> > when it is
> > > warm? I find that starting after a short period is OK, but if it
> > sits for
> > 20
> > > minutes or so, it is hard to start. Starting up cold is easy.
> > >
> > >
> > > Any suggestions for a good technique?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Dave A227
> > > Mini U2
> > > 26.2 hours Total Time
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Parkin" <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
Ian,
I have the Airmaster CS prop and have to say it works extremely well. I
would definitely buy it again.
Monowheel performance with an Airmaster prop on a 914 engine is just
brilliant.
regards,
Mike (G -JULZ)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Mansfeld" <ian_mansfeld@lineone.net>
Subject: Europa-List: CS props
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ian Mansfeld"
<ian_mansfeld@lineone.net>
>
> At the risk of starting a controversial debate... can users advise as to
the preferred type of CS prop for a Classic 912 (80hp)? What sort of weight
& CG change is likely from the standard fixed-pitch 3 blade Warp Drive prop?
>
> Ian & BVVP.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Harnesses again |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alexander P. de C. Kaarsberg" <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
>
>
>In what configuration was the honeycomb used? Parallel or perpendicular to
>the cells? And presumably the aluminium variety?
>
>
I have never seen the exact details of the arrangement but I imagine it
as follows, the leg being formed in the shape of a long cylinder with a
piston acting on the honeycomb, it's hollows arranged vertically. On
impact the honeycomb crushes absorbing the energy.
For our purpose some testing would have to be done to find the right
material and dimensions but I doubt the possibility of reaching 16G
protection with the little space available- a few inches at most, but a
little is better than nothing.
Alex, kit 529.
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| Subject: | Re: 914 hot starting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
In a message dated 3/22/2003 1:15:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com writes:
> Erich,
>
> Both of my fuel pumps are switchable.
>
> * Fuel pumps - 'OFF'.
> * Choke 'Fully In'. ( that is no choke)
> * Throttle set just very slightly open. (approx 2500-3000 rpm)
>
> I think that the starting problem when the 914 is warm/hot is one of
> over-fuelling. I have also found that with a warm engine, after starting
> using the above technique, putting the fuel pump on immediately can make
> the
> engine die. It seems to need time to settle down before giving it full
> fuel
> pressure.
> Of course, it could be that this method of starting is specific to my
> engine - for some reason.
>
> regards,
>
> Mike (G-JULZ)
>
With switched pumps as I also have, I am also considering shutting the pumps
off prior to engine shutdown when I anticipate a hot start to follow. The
engine will run for about 30 seconds with the pumps off after start, so
letting it run might reduce the fuel in the carbs giving a head start on the
hot start process?
Dave
A227
Mini U2
28 hours TT
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| Subject: | Re: 914 hot starting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Michael Parkin et al,
Cheers, I have NO experience with 914s and their difficulties,
but it seems to me that the problem (if overfuelling) is similar to flooding
the lawnmower. Don't want to sound like a hound but is it possible a sniff
of the exhaust would confirm overfuelling?
Ferg
A064
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"Microlights@yahoogroups.com" <microlights@yahoogroups.com>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Taylor" <kevin@eastyorkshire.co.uk>
Folks,
Just a further development to our weather station at our farm strip we have
today added Wap access. It works a treat. I know a few have expressed
interest in getting something similar running.
For Wap!! real time info on our weather the address is
http://www.eastyorkshire.co.uk/eddsfield/wxdata
for internet access it is
http://www.eastyorkshire.co.uk/eddsfield/wxdata/eddsfield.htm
I'm going to find the new wap page good for accessing wind speed direction
and qfe etc before setting back to the field.
Anyone looking at it this evening will find it is not quite up to date due
to a major power failure in the area hence no power to the PC. Other than
that its very reliable now.
Regards
Kevin
The station consists of an Oragon Scientific WMR-968 weather station
connected to a pc running Weather Display software.
The hardware is fairly straight forward and consists of four remote sensors
reporting data to the main unit which records and displays the information.
This is linked to the pc via a serial cable.
The web cam image is produced with an old inter web cam mounted in a home
made external enclosure. Pictures are grabbed every hour and Weather Display
posts them to the site when it uploads on the hour.
http://www.weatherfront.biz/ for the unit at 399
http://www.ambientweather.com/Default.asp for the software
---
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Trems" <Tremsx2@lvcm.com>
Hi all"
I just wanted to thank everybody for all the feed back that I have received.
It has been very helpful and very informative. A lot of the builders have given
a lot of support knowing that this is a very big decision and a lot of money.
At this time there are a lot of unknowns for me as this will be my first
aircraft.
I have a few questions about getting my private licenses. I need to email or talk
with someone about this one. Also the insurance company said that I need
some instruction with a tail dragger if I get the mono wheel so I need to find
out how to go about doing that. The insurance company that I went thru is
EAA Falcon insurance. Has anyone had any bad experiences with Falcon.
Well that's all for now and thanks for all the feed back from everyone and the
support.
Allan
Las Vegas,NV
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| Subject: | Re: Weather station |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I have looked at your site. Now where is it with regards to a town? The
reason I ask is that my daughter lives in Pateley Bridge.
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Taylor" <kevin@eastyorkshire.co.uk>
"Microlights@yahoogroups.com" <microlights@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Weather station
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Taylor"
<kevin@eastyorkshire.co.uk>
>
> Folks,
>
> Just a further development to our weather station at our farm strip we
have
> today added Wap access. It works a treat. I know a few have expressed
> interest in getting something similar running.
>
> For Wap!! real time info on our weather the address is
> http://www.eastyorkshire.co.uk/eddsfield/wxdata
>
> for internet access it is
> http://www.eastyorkshire.co.uk/eddsfield/wxdata/eddsfield.htm
>
> I'm going to find the new wap page good for accessing wind speed direction
> and qfe etc before setting back to the field.
>
> Anyone looking at it this evening will find it is not quite up to date due
> to a major power failure in the area hence no power to the PC. Other than
> that its very reliable now.
>
> Regards
>
> Kevin
>
>
> The station consists of an Oragon Scientific WMR-968 weather station
> connected to a pc running Weather Display software.
>
> The hardware is fairly straight forward and consists of four remote
sensors
> reporting data to the main unit which records and displays the
information.
> This is linked to the pc via a serial cable.
>
> The web cam image is produced with an old inter web cam mounted in a home
> made external enclosure. Pictures are grabbed every hour and Weather
Display
> posts them to the site when it uploads on the hour.
>
> http://www.weatherfront.biz/ for the unit at 399
>
>
> http://www.ambientweather.com/Default.asp for the software
>
>
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks to all |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
Allan,
Give me a e-mail and I'll talk to you about both as I just started my Europa
in Jan, 03 and am just about to get my PPL.
BTW I live in Phoenix.
Al Stills
astills@speedchoice.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trems" <Tremsx2@lvcm.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Thanks to all
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Trems" <Tremsx2@lvcm.com>
>
> Hi all"
>
> I just wanted to thank everybody for all the feed back that I have
received. It has been very helpful and very informative. A lot of the
builders have given a lot of support knowing that this is a very big
decision and a lot of money. At this time there are a lot of unknowns for
me as this will be my first aircraft.
> I have a few questions about getting my private licenses. I need to email
or talk with someone about this one. Also the insurance company said
that I need some instruction with a tail dragger if I get the mono wheel so
I need to find out how to go about doing that. The insurance company that I
went thru is EAA Falcon insurance. Has anyone had any bad experiences with
Falcon.
> Well that's all for now and thanks for all the feed back from everyone and
the support.
>
> Allan
> Las Vegas,NV
>
>
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| Subject: | 7-Day Matronics List Browse Enhancement... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Neil Hulin of the Zenith-List at Matronics wrote to me suggesting I add a
"total of available messages" column to the 7-Day List Browse Main page,
and it seemed like a great idea! I've made the modifications and I think
many will find it extremely helpful as well. Have a look at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/
Best regards,
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Matronics Email List Admin...
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--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
What system does Europa Lakeland provide with their firewall forward kit? Can
we up when we order the kit?
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks to all |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
By the way, could I ask what Falcon wants for their insurance protection once
your flying?
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks to all |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Trems" <Tremsx2@lvcm.com>
Yep" They said for me which is as he said high because I am just starting.
Full coverage $2.498 per year while I am building the kit $400. per year and
it would go up when I get the engine.
----- Original Message -----
From: <DuaneFamly@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thanks to all
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
>
> By the way, could I ask what Falcon wants for their insurance protection
once
> your flying?
>
>
> Mike Duane A207
> Redding, California
> XS Trigear
>
>
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| Subject: | Monowheel Ground Handling |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
I was talking to a prospective Europa flyer online today. He was
asking about the handling problems while on the ground of the Europa
monowheel. While I've got about 30 hours in a conventional taildragger, and
have had the chance on three occasions to fly in Kim Prout's and the factory
demonstrator, I was never asked to takeoff or land them.
But I am also aware that the monowheel takeoff and landing technique is
effectively different. Could a few of the seasoned Europa monowheel flyers on
this forum provide some qualified discussion of the these two phases of
flight? I'm sure he would appreciate it.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks to all |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Trems" <Tremsx2@lvcm.com>
Hi Alan
Well' it sounds like you are making the big jump and doing everything at
once. Buying and building an aircraft and getting your PPL that's what I am
going to try and do also. About the PPL should I go to a private company or
join a club to get the PPL. I have heard about the home study classes good
thing or bad.
Are you building a mono gear or tri. If you are building a mono then how
are you going about getting the taildragger endorsement. Sorry about
jumping from one question to another.
Thanks for the help
Allan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thanks to all
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills"
<astills785@earthlink.net>
>
> Allan,
> Give me a e-mail and I'll talk to you about both as I just started my
Europa
> in Jan, 03 and am just about to get my PPL.
> BTW I live in Phoenix.
> Al Stills
> astills@speedchoice.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trems" <Tremsx2@lvcm.com>
> To: "Europa-List Digest Server" <europa-list-digest@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Thanks to all
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Trems" <Tremsx2@lvcm.com>
> >
> > Hi all"
> >
> > I just wanted to thank everybody for all the feed back that I have
> received. It has been very helpful and very informative. A lot of the
> builders have given a lot of support knowing that this is a very big
> decision and a lot of money. At this time there are a lot of unknowns for
> me as this will be my first aircraft.
> > I have a few questions about getting my private licenses. I need to
email
> or talk with someone about this one. Also the insurance company said
> that I need some instruction with a tail dragger if I get the mono wheel
so
> I need to find out how to go about doing that. The insurance company that
I
> went thru is EAA Falcon insurance. Has anyone had any bad experiences
with
> Falcon.
> > Well that's all for now and thanks for all the feed back from everyone
and
> the support.
> >
> >
Allan
> > Las
Vegas,NV
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>>> What system does Europa Lakeland provide with their firewall forward
kit? Can we up when we order the kit?
The Firewall forward kit includes a warp drive fixed pitch prop. This
can be upped to an Airmaster when you order the kit.
Now, do you want fries with that?
Tony
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
Last summer I changed over from the NSI VP prop to the Airmaster. Whilst the
NSI prop was well made the company backup was dreadful. Even David Hunter
(the main contact for NSI in the UK) has had difficulty in his dealings with
them. Airmaster on the other hand were fantastic. As my aircraft had been
grounded by the problem that David Bowie had had with the NSI Airmaster
managed to build my prop and ship it to me from New Zealand in 16 days.
Every time I had a question my e-mails were answered within the next working
day. Whilst my aircraft was temporarily grounded William Mills kindly lent
me a standard ground adjustable Warp Drive prop which I only managed to use
once due to the speedy delivery of the Airmaster.
My Airmaster is the latest feathering type. This has the added advantage of
being able to vary the cruise rpm in-flight whilst maintaining CS operation.
The engineering is superb. Unlike the NSI, the blades can be fitted or
removed without removing the hub and the pitch stops are easily accessed and
adjusted. If panel space is limiting the very compact control box minimises
the space needed. As well as being the best product available, the Airmaster
had the only controller that would have fitted into my crowded instrument
panel at that time. This may be a consideration for those who are
considering retrofitting. I haven't seen the Arplast controller yet but it
is probably very similar.
In use the rotary switch to select between Take-off, Climb, Cruise, Hold and
Feather minimises the need to look inside during high workload stages of
flight. The benefits over the basic VP prop mean that full power is
available for the whole of the take-off and the fine pitch on final approach
and flare helps to minimise the landing distance required.
Nigel Charles
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz>
I have an Airmaster Prop also, XS Mono Rotax 914, and cannot praise it
enough.
Not too expensive to repair when you break a blade either!!!!
Sue and Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Parkin" <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: CS props
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Parkin"
<Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
>
> Ian,
>
> I have the Airmaster CS prop and have to say it works extremely well. I
> would definitely buy it again.
> Monowheel performance with an Airmaster prop on a 914 engine is just
> brilliant.
>
> regards,
>
> Mike (G -JULZ)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Mansfeld" <ian_mansfeld@lineone.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: CS props
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ian Mansfeld"
> <ian_mansfeld@lineone.net>
> >
> > At the risk of starting a controversial debate... can users advise as to
> the preferred type of CS prop for a Classic 912 (80hp)? What sort of
weight
> & CG change is likely from the standard fixed-pitch 3 blade Warp Drive
prop?
> >
> > Ian & BVVP.
> >
> >
>
>
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