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1. 02:37 AM - Helicopter flying (david joyce)
2. 04:47 AM - Pip-pin wanted (Cripps, David)
3. 04:47 AM - 912 Compression testing (Cripps, David)
4. 07:36 AM - Re: Pip-pin wanted (Rob Housman)
5. 07:38 AM - Re: Pip-pin wanted (Fergus Kyle)
6. 08:07 AM - Re: Pip-pin wanted (R.C.Harrison)
7. 11:09 AM - Required tools (Simon Smith)
8. 11:41 AM - Re: Pip-pin wanted (paul stewart)
9. 12:07 PM - Re: Required tools (Cliff Shaw)
10. 12:17 PM - Re: Required tools (Dave_Miller@ca.cgugroup.com)
11. 01:38 PM - Re: Monowheel Ground Handling (J R \(Bob\) Gowing)
12. 02:08 PM - Re: Required tools (Rob Housman)
13. 02:11 PM - Re: 912 Compression testing (Kevin Taylor)
14. 02:36 PM - Propeller Balancing. (R.C.Harrison)
15. 03:17 PM - Thumb Tack remedy to heavy feet. (Tony Renshaw)
16. 03:44 PM - Re: Required tools (Jeremy Davey)
17. 04:52 PM - Helicopter flying 569 m (Tony Renshaw)
18. 08:48 PM - Re: Required tools (Kingsley Hurst)
19. 09:02 PM - Re: Helicopter flying 569 m (Trems)
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| Subject: | Helicopter flying |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "david joyce" <davidjoyce@beeb.net>
If any of you are weather bound or bored with sanding try www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf
for a bit of light relief. David Joyce
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cripps, David" <david.cripps@spsystems.com>
Help!
The spring mechanism in one of my pip-pins for my Europa Classic tailplane came
apart when I was trying to pull the pin out. Although I've now got the pin out
it is clearly no use and needs replacing. New ones appear to be massively expensive
(>50GB pounds each).
Does anyone who has drilled out their torque tubes to take the new, upgraded, larger
diameter pip-pins have an old, smaller diameter one to spare?
Yours hopefully
David
GBWJH
Visit SP at stand J06/L01 at the JEC Composites Show, Paris, 1st-3rd April 2003
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| Subject: | 912 Compression testing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cripps, David" <david.cripps@spsystems.com>
I'm working through the 200 hour Rotax maintenance schedule on my 912UL, and wondered
if anyone had the equipment needed for doing the individual cylinder compression
test that I could beg, borrow or hire? Also does anyone have the special
measuring tool that is used for checking the float arms in the Bing carburettors,
also part of the 200 hour service?
Any help or suggestions gratefully received.
David
GBWJH
Visit SP at stand J06/L01 at the JEC Composites Show, Paris, 1st-3rd April 2003
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
While I can not help by supplying a pin I can point you to a less expensive
source in the US: http://www.mcmaster.com/ Go to that page and search for
"ring-grip pin" and from the choices presented then select "Ring-Grip
Push-Button Quick-Release Pin." Assuming your pip pin is 3/16 or 1/4 inch
diameter you can get one for less than US$20 so even with shipping charges
that should give you a landed cost of much less than 50.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
A070
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Cripps, David
Subject: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cripps, David"
<david.cripps@spsystems.com>
Help!
The spring mechanism in one of my pip-pins for my Europa Classic tailplane
came apart when I was trying to pull the pin out. Although I've now got the
pin out it is clearly no use and needs replacing. New ones appear to be
massively expensive (>50GB pounds each).
Does anyone who has drilled out their torque tubes to take the new,
upgraded, larger diameter pip-pins have an old, smaller diameter one to
spare?
Yours hopefully
David
GBWJH
Visit SP at stand J06/L01 at the JEC Composites Show, Paris, 1st-3rd April
2003
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| Subject: | Re: Pip-pin wanted |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
dAVID,
I have one, because of upgrading. Jenny comes over this week.
Let me know.
Ferg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cripps, David" <david.cripps@spsystems.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cripps, David"
<david.cripps@spsystems.com>
>
> Help!
>
> The spring mechanism in one of my pip-pins for my Europa Classic tailplane
came apart when I was trying to pull the pin out. Although I've now got the
pin out it is clearly no use and needs replacing. New ones appear to be
massively expensive (>50GB pounds each).
>
> Does anyone who has drilled out their torque tubes to take the new,
upgraded, larger diameter pip-pins have an old, smaller diameter one to
spare?
>
> Yours hopefully
>
> David
> GBWJH
>
>
> Visit SP at stand J06/L01 at the JEC Composites Show, Paris, 1st-3rd April
2003
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! David /Ferg.
I am intrigued about PIP PIN UPGRADING? The Only upgrading I know of is the
1370lb spar 1/2" pins replacing 3/8" pin originals or the oversizing of
Torque Tube Drive Pins which are permanent pins not "Pip Pins".
The pip pins holes in the tail plane bush are supposed to be elongated
radially to ensure they DON'T act as drivers on the inner tail plane bush
when slop develops between the two tail plane halves.
Bemused Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
dAVID,
I have one, because of upgrading. Jenny comes over this week.
Let me know.
Ferg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cripps, David" <david.cripps@spsystems.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cripps, David"
<david.cripps@spsystems.com>
>
> Help!
>
> The spring mechanism in one of my pip-pins for my Europa Classic tailplane
came apart when I was trying to pull the pin out. Although I've now got the
pin out it is clearly no use and needs replacing. New ones appear to be
massively expensive (>50GB pounds each).
>
> Does anyone who has drilled out their torque tubes to take the new,
upgraded, larger diameter pip-pins have an old, smaller diameter one to
spare?
>
> Yours hopefully
>
> David
> GBWJH
>
>
> Visit SP at stand J06/L01 at the JEC Composites Show, Paris, 1st-3rd April
2003
>
>
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Company
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>
> Any advice given by the Company in connection with the sale of goods is
given
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given with
> reasonable skill and care. All advice is otherwise given subject to the
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Hi all,
To save me searching through the entire manual, can someone tell me
where the 5mmx0.8mm and 12mmx1.75mm taps are required?
Ta muchas
Simon.
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| Subject: | Re: Pip-pin wanted |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart" <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
David
Like Bob, Im not aware of an upgrading of the torque tube pip pins. I do
however have a couple of the original 1/4" pip pins spare somewhere as a
result of making a c**k up of drilling the 1/4" holes in my tail plane
bushes. The fix was to ream out to 5/16" and then pay an arm and a leg for
new pip pins. If Fergus Kyle does not sort you out, get in touch off list
(paul-d.stewart@virgin.net)
Regards
Pal Stewart #432
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cripps, David" <david.cripps@spsystems.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Pip-pin wanted
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cripps, David"
<david.cripps@spsystems.com>
>
> Help!
>
> The spring mechanism in one of my pip-pins for my Europa Classic tailplane
came apart when I was trying to pull the pin out. Although I've now got the
pin out it is clearly no use and needs replacing. New ones appear to be
massively expensive (>50GB pounds each).
>
> Does anyone who has drilled out their torque tubes to take the new,
upgraded, larger diameter pip-pins have an old, smaller diameter one to
spare?
>
> Yours hopefully
>
> David
> GBWJH
>
>
> Visit SP at stand J06/L01 at the JEC Composites Show, Paris, 1st-3rd April
2003
>
>
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******************
> All sales of goods are subject to the terms and conditions of sale (the
Conditions)
> of SP Systems (the Company) which are available on request from the
Company
> or may be viewed on our Website (http://www.spsystems.com).
>
> Any advice given by the Company in connection with the sale of goods is
given
> in good faith but the company only warrants that advice in writing is
given with
> reasonable skill and care. All advice is otherwise given subject to the
Conditions.
>
> The contents of this message and any attachments are confidential and
> are intended solely for the attention and use of the addressee only.
> Information contained in this message may be subject to legal,
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> intended recipient you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute
> or retain this message or any part of it.
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| Subject: | Re: Required tools |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@attbi.com>
Simon
I have worked on building two Europas now. I had to look in the book to see
what your were asking about. I don't know !
I did use a 8 mm tap on the wing root for the pins. I also found a 10-32
handy to clean out threads after I got epoxy in a bolt hole. ( be careful
not to go all the way in and make the hole too big)
(Andy: You might look at page 1-4 in the build manual and see if there is
and error there.)
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds WA 98020
(425) 776-5555
N229WC "Wile E Coyote"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Required tools
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
>
> Hi all,
>
> To save me searching through the entire manual, can someone tell me
> where the 5mmx0.8mm and 12mmx1.75mm taps are required?
>
> Ta muchas
>
> Simon.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Required tools |
03/26/2003 03:17:23 PM,
Serialize complete at 03/26/2003 03:17:23 PM
--> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@ca.cgugroup.com
My memory is not up to much, but the 5 mm should be for the door frame gas
strut connect and the 12mm for the flap drive pins
Dave A061
"Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
03/26/03 02:07 PM
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To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
cc:
Subject: Europa-List: Required tools
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Hi all,
To save me searching through the entire manual, can someone tell me
where the 5mmx0.8mm and 12mmx1.75mm taps are required?
Ta muchas
Simon.
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| Subject: | Re: Monowheel Ground Handling |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "J R \(Bob\) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
The advice to me on taildragger training was to fly along just above the
strip and keep holding off (crabbing for drift if needed) but watching out
of the sides of the eyes for that short time the aircraft begins to sink at
a faster rate. That is the time to hit the rudder, having finished flying.
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz
do not archive
JR (Bob) Gowing, 24 High St, BEGA NSW 2550
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel Ground Handling
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst"
<hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
>
>
> > DJA727@aol.com wrote:-
> >
> > I understand the straightening of the aircraft just prior to touchdown,
> > but I am wondering if your timing is a little off, what happens. If you
> > input the rudder too early, the airplane will start to drift sideways,
> > unless you bank into the wind. You will end up touching down in a
sideways
> > drift.
>
> Dave,
>
> With the sum total of about 30 minutes in Europas and not having done a
> take-off or landing, I don't profess to know all about Europa handling.
> However, with a considerable amount of time as a gliding instructor, I
think
> I may be able to offer a suggestion which will help with the problem you
> asked about. I can see no reason why it should not work with the Europa.
>
> As with the Europa, gliders cannot be landed purposefully with a wing low,
> the crabbing method of approach being adopted when landing with a
> cross wind. As you said, rudder is applied to yaw the aircraft straight
> just prior to touchdown. If rudder is applied fairly decisively
(consistent
> with the strength of the cross wind) at this time, there is a period of a
> few seconds while the aircraft is skidding before it starts to drift
again.
> It is during this time that one wishes to put the main wheel/s on the
ground
> but as you have rightly pointed out, this might not and does not always
> happen.
>
> What then? Assuming there is still enough airspeed to float a little
> longer, if you cast your eyes around in the direction the aircraft is now
> drifting, you will pick up the point to which the aircraft is actually
> travelling (as opposed to heading). Once you have identified this point,
> simply apply rudder again to yaw the aircraft and make it head towards
this
> new point. At this time and again for a few seconds, there is no
> drift so you are able to have a second go at putting it on the ground.
Once
> on the ground, straighten up to track in the originally desired direction.
>
> If not successful on this second attempt, I think the cross wind may be in
> excess of the pilot's capability.
>
> You may be tempted to think this will need a wide runway but in actual
> fact, it doesn't. Also, with a bit of practice, the whole procedure
becomes
> a progressive one rather than a two step process.
>
> Regards
> Kingsley Hurst
> Mono Classic 281 in Oz
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
I recall drilling and tapping for the 12 mm pins, but I can neither recall
making any 5 mm threaded holes nor can I find any reference to that size in
my searchable Adobe Acrobat format copy of the Builders Manual (conveniently
and generously provided to me by another builder).
The M12 tap is used to tap the holes in the wing root rib for the wing
lift/drag pins W24 and W25, and the flap drive pin FL22.
Disregard the manual's comments in the paragraph headed "Using Taps" about
taps being sold in sets of two or three. One tap will do this job. True,
there are four different kinds of taps (taper, plug, semi-bottoming,
bottoming, with an entrance of 7 to 10, 3 to 5, 2 to 2-1/2, and 1 to 2
thread chamfer, respectively) but only a single tap is required to make
these threaded holes. For the wing and flap pins, where we can drill
entirely through the aluminum plates in the root ribs, the easier to use
taper chamfer is preferred. Also, since we are not running a production
operation here, buy cheap carbon steel taps.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
A070
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Simon Smith
Subject: Europa-List: Required tools
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Hi all,
To save me searching through the entire manual, can someone tell me
where the 5mmx0.8mm and 12mmx1.75mm taps are required?
Ta muchas
Simon.
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| Subject: | 912 Compression testing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Taylor" <kevin@eastyorkshire.co.uk>
David,
Assuming its a standard compression tester as in the Automotive sense then I
have one I could lend you its a Gunson High pressure gauge. To be honest
though I'm not sure there is a lot of point as by the time the postage is
paid you may as well buy one. I got it from the MG owners club on line
website. I think it was about 14 inc next day del. I also go the low
pressure one which is handy for fuel pressure testing. (Might not be
applicable to Rotax?)
Funny enough I have just been looking at the 200 hour service today myself
as I will need to do one in 30 hours from now, not on my Europa though.
Time to own up I have defected a little!!!!!
I have bought a Pegasus CT 2K microlight. For those not familiar it is a all
composite 100 hp 3 axis. Wider and more cabin room than a 182. Cruise is 110
ish knots on 12 L per hour.
I still have the Trigear Europa at the moment but might sell it if I get on
OK with the CT we will see.
Regards
Kev T
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Cripps,
David
Subject: Europa-List: 912 Compression testing
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cripps, David"
<david.cripps@spsystems.com>
I'm working through the 200 hour Rotax maintenance schedule on my 912UL, and
wondered if anyone had the equipment needed for doing the individual
cylinder compression test that I could beg, borrow or hire? Also does anyone
have the special measuring tool that is used for checking the float arms in
the Bing carburettors, also part of the 200 hour service?
Any help or suggestions gratefully received.
David
GBWJH
Visit SP at stand J06/L01 at the JEC Composites Show, Paris, 1st-3rd April
2003
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| Subject: | Propeller Balancing. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! UK Europaphiles.
A friend has asked me to put a message out . He is building a Mono- and just
installing the engine. He is fitting a standard Warp drive propeller and
wants to know the arrangement of the fixed nut positions on the Spinner Back
Plate.
He has also previously used the services of a chap who has all the guismo's
and does Prop. Ballancing but has misplaced his contact details. Can anyone
help? Please.(North Lincolnshire)
regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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| Subject: | Thumb Tack remedy to heavy feet. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
Tony and heavy footed co.
I hope you have therefore installed Graham Singletons rudder mod, as otherwise
Graham tells me the combined force due to the very high mechanical advantage of
pushing, especially with both feet, is about 800 lbs, and all of this is
concentrated on your bottom rudder hinge. Another good reason to ensure at
least in your own beast you have it, but I am sure you already do. As to the
Airmaster demonstrator, well maybe a mod is in order, or put some thumb tacks
through your soles so that when you push, it hurts :-)
Reg
Tony Renshaw
At 06:46 PM 3/26/2003 +1200, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>
>
>>>> I find myself "pushing" on the rudder pedals after
>landing.
>
>That one is incredibly difficult to break out of. Even after several
>hundred landings I still find myself "braking" with my feet!
>
>Tony
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Why do I get that sinking feeling? Those taps cost me a pretty packet...
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa XS Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Shaw
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@attbi.com>
Simon
I have worked on building two Europas now. I had to look in the book to see
what your were asking about. I don't know !
I did use a 8 mm tap on the wing root for the pins. I also found a 10-32
handy to clean out threads after I got epoxy in a bolt hole. ( be careful
not to go all the way in and make the hole too big)
(Andy: You might look at page 1-4 in the build manual and see if there is
and error there.)
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds WA 98020
(425) 776-5555
N229WC "Wile E Coyote"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Required tools
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
>
> Hi all,
>
> To save me searching through the entire manual, can someone tell me
> where the 5mmx0.8mm and 12mmx1.75mm taps are required?
>
> Ta muchas
>
> Simon.
>
>
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| Subject: | Helicopter flying 569 m |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
Gidday,
Well I have had a couple of quick goes and I know pilots like a challenge.
Here it is. 569 metres. Go for it.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
P.S.
At 10:39 AM 3/26/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "david joyce" <davidjoyce@beeb.net>
>
>If any of you are weather bound or bored with sanding try
>www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf for a bit of light relief. David
Joyce
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Required tools |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> To save me searching through the entire manual, can someone tell me
> where the 5mmx0.8mm and 12mmx1.75mm taps are required?
>
Simon,
The 5mm x .08mm tap is for tapping the lugs on the doors for the gas strut
ball joints. This is in the manual where it explains how to fit the gas
struts. You also need a 4.2mm drill bit to drill these holes.
The 12mm taps are required for tapping the wing lift pin holes and the flap
drive pin holes. This is also in the manual in the relevant section for
fitting these pins. From memory, think the drill bit needed for this is
10.8mm.
I would advise against using the nearest (undersized) imperial size drill
bits for the wing and flap pins like I did. The extra couple of thou makes
quite a difference.
Sorry but haven't got my manual handy to confirm page numbers.
Regards
Kingsley Hurst
Mono Classic 281
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| Subject: | Re: Helicopter flying 569 m |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Trems" <Tremsx2@lvcm.com>
I got a 646 and I don't fly yet. I think I can skip the PPL. LOL : > }
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
Subject: Europa-List: Helicopter flying 569 m
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
>
> Gidday,
> Well I have had a couple of quick goes and I know pilots like a
challenge.
> Here it is. 569 metres. Go for it.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> P.S.
>
>
> At 10:39 AM 3/26/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "david joyce" <davidjoyce@beeb.net>
> >
> >If any of you are weather bound or bored with sanding try
> >www.hurtwood.demon.co.uk/Fun/copter.swf for a bit of light relief. David
> Joyce
> >
> >
>
>
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