Europa-List Digest Archive

Sat 04/26/03


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 01:53 AM - Fuel Gauge Installation Problem (Tony Renshaw)
     2. 02:11 PM - 666 Braided/Teflon hose (Paul McAllister)
     3. 02:11 PM - Painting flaps (Paul McAllister)
     4. 03:26 PM - Re: Alleron Fitting (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
     5. 03:49 PM - Re: Alleron Fitting (Alan Stills)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:53:26 AM PST US
    From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au>
    Subject: Fuel Gauge Installation Problem
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@ozemail.com.au> Gidday, I have installed the magnetic fuel gauge as per the instructions exactly. I have a problem that the hole for the tank fitting is at the union of 2 surfaces, either side of the seam. The angle is quite noticeable and it is definitely not flat. Suffice to say, when I tighten up the 5 anchorage screws I have a distortion of the plastic flange that supports the female boss for the probe. The good news is that the female boss is quite thick, and I reckon it will not distort over time, but the distortion of the plastic flange over time may create some stress tears. When tightening up the studs,the rubber gaskets are hardly distorted, so I can only presume that the length of the studs might be such that they are botttoming out. I may put a 916-10L washer under each to see if I can get them to nip up a bit more. So where is the problem? I left the tank about 1/2 full for ages, and noticed a small amount of moisture around the rubber gasket, which I can only presume is fuel. The flange I can distort with finger pressure between any 2 studs such that I can squeeze down on it and close up a gape. I am considering using the Hermetite Gold sealant but I am now worried to install it when I know things may not be perfect. Lets face it, its a long time installed!!! (I hope). Has anyone had these problems, or any other problems with these installations? I don't want to know about people who worked out the problem before installing the hole in the tank as per the instructions. I already admire them, I just don't want to talk to them at the moment :-) Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia


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    Time: 02:11:05 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: 666 Braided/Teflon hose
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, I noticed that a few folk are replacing the rubber hoses with the (rather expensive) 666 hose. This stuff has a Teflon interior and should be pretty impervious to any additives that are in automotive fuel. The 666 hose is intended to work with a mandrel type fitting that has an AN style fitting on the other end. So, here is my question, Has any one had any experience with using this type of hose with the jubilee + nipple style of fitting as on the Europa. I am suspicious that the Teflon will not compress enough and it won't seal very well. I'd appreciate folks thoughts and experiences on this. Thanks, Paul


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    Time: 02:11:38 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Painting flaps
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, I am looking for ideas on how to support the flaps for painting. Paul


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    Time: 03:26:26 PM PST US
    From: Rowland & Wilma Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Re: Alleron Fitting
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland & Wilma Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 16:54 -0700 on 25-04-03, Alan Stills wrote: >The Top flange on the trailing edge of the wings will not let the >aileron's fit into the trailing edge Alan - this is too late for you, but the way to avoid this problem was offered to me by Neville at the factory, and I have just yesterday doen it on my starboard wing. When applying the double layer of BID over the front face of the aileron closeout and onto the bottom skin (ALL the way along, NOT just at the hinges as my manual says!), first place a piece of wood in the space where the aileron LE will be, so that the flanges are kept at the correct spacing as the BID reinforcement cures. I found a piece about 46mm wide worked well, but you should check the dimensions on your own wing. Measure the distance between the flanges at the inboard and outboard ends, where they are attached to other parts of the structure - should be the same both ends. I made my spacer piece the full length of the closeout and attached some wider pieces to the back of it to stop it slipping right into the closeout. However, I have now decided to cut it into shorter lengths to allow using it again in between the hinge reinforcement BID patches applied inside the closeout. It may be that the correct way for your situation is to use a similat spacer when attaching the top skin so that the closeout adopts the correct shape until cured. Not sure what to do about aileron fitting, though. ASK Neville! regards Rowland -- | PFA 16532 EAA 168386 Young Eagles Flight Leader 017623 | 520 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>


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    Time: 03:49:39 PM PST US
    From: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Alleron Fitting
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net> Nevelle. Appreciate the advice, however the closeout at the root was approximately 45MM while my aileron's are both 60 MM finished. The outboard end varied on both the wings. I've quiried the factory as 15MM difference is a little much for a factory fastbuild. Thanks Al Stills A095




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